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BRIGGS
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11/11/2008  12:12 AM
Danilo Gallinari, the first-round draft pick whom Mike D’Antoni chose not to play in the last four games, is doubtful against San Antonio with a sore lower back. It is the same injury that caused Gallinari to miss the preseason. “His back is hurting a little bit again,” D’Antoni said Monday. “He was trying to push himself and get ready, but he had a little bit of a setback.”... Mardy Collins (upper respiratory infection) and David Lee (sore left ankle) were probable.

From NY Times today
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11/11/2008  12:15 AM
I don't think it ever went away. I think he was trying to play with it.
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11/11/2008  12:19 AM
I thought they tried to bring him back too soon. I would put the kid on the injury list and keep him there for as long as it take to heal that back. It's nothing to fool around with.

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11/11/2008  12:22 AM
He was out of the rotation for now anyway- give him some time to recover.
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11/11/2008  12:22 AM
I'm shocked...

But seriously, Occam's razor practically assured us this was the reason he wasn't playing.

Give it a rest on the Gallo watch guys, if he gets some burn after the all-star break you can consider it a blessing.
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11/11/2008  12:24 AM
Bad back already at 20? Out of it after one summer league game?!? Forget it guys. Gallo is done.






[Edited by - basketballjones on 11-11-2008 00:25]
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11/11/2008  12:28 AM
Posted by BlueSeats:

I'm shocked...

But seriously, Occam's razor practically assured us this was the reason he wasn't playing.

Give it a rest on the Gallo watch guys, if he gets some burn after the all-star break you can consider it a blessing.

I never heard of anyone so young having these types of back issues that have literally lingered for 6 months---anyone else no 1 player in the NBA who has been hurt like this at 20 years old [as in back injury] I cant think of one in terms of what he has--I can think of knee injuries at a young age but I cant remember back issues with someone this age.
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11/11/2008  12:35 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by BlueSeats:

I'm shocked...

But seriously, Occam's razor practically assured us this was the reason he wasn't playing.

Give it a rest on the Gallo watch guys, if he gets some burn after the all-star break you can consider it a blessing.

I never heard of anyone so young having these types of back issues that have literally lingered for 6 months---anyone else no 1 player in the NBA who has been hurt like this at 20 years old [as in back injury] I cant think of one in terms of what he has--I can think of knee injuries at a young age but I cant remember back issues with someone this age.

What's the difference if you are young or old? An injury is an injury.
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11/11/2008  12:35 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by BlueSeats:

I'm shocked...

But seriously, Occam's razor practically assured us this was the reason he wasn't playing.

Give it a rest on the Gallo watch guys, if he gets some burn after the all-star break you can consider it a blessing.

I never heard of anyone so young having these types of back issues that have literally lingered for 6 months---anyone else no 1 player in the NBA who has been hurt like this at 20 years old [as in back injury] I cant think of one in terms of what he has--I can think of knee injuries at a young age but I cant remember back issues with someone this age.

What's the difference if you are young or old? An injury is an injury.

Right. It's just that Gallo has the back of a 70 year old.
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11/11/2008  12:40 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by BlueSeats:

I'm shocked...

But seriously, Occam's razor practically assured us this was the reason he wasn't playing.

Give it a rest on the Gallo watch guys, if he gets some burn after the all-star break you can consider it a blessing.

I never heard of anyone so young having these types of back issues that have literally lingered for 6 months---anyone else no 1 player in the NBA who has been hurt like this at 20 years old [as in back injury] I cant think of one in terms of what he has--I can think of knee injuries at a young age but I cant remember back issues with someone this age.

What's the difference if you are young or old? An injury is an injury.

There is a HUGE difference.
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11/11/2008  12:48 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by BlueSeats:

I'm shocked...

But seriously, Occam's razor practically assured us this was the reason he wasn't playing.

Give it a rest on the Gallo watch guys, if he gets some burn after the all-star break you can consider it a blessing.

I never heard of anyone so young having these types of back issues that have literally lingered for 6 months---anyone else no 1 player in the NBA who has been hurt like this at 20 years old [as in back injury] I cant think of one in terms of what he has--I can think of knee injuries at a young age but I cant remember back issues with someone this age.

I recall JJ Reddick back problems.
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11/11/2008  12:50 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by BlueSeats:

I'm shocked...

But seriously, Occam's razor practically assured us this was the reason he wasn't playing.

Give it a rest on the Gallo watch guys, if he gets some burn after the all-star break you can consider it a blessing.

I never heard of anyone so young having these types of back issues that have literally lingered for 6 months---anyone else no 1 player in the NBA who has been hurt like this at 20 years old [as in back injury] I cant think of one in terms of what he has--I can think of knee injuries at a young age but I cant remember back issues with someone this age.

I agree, it's messed up. But we could see he wasn't healing quickly by his summer, training camp and preseason routine. Being thrown into a game for 6 minutes of lackluster performance shouldn't have altered our perception of his progress, or lack thereof.
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11/11/2008  12:51 AM
Didn't Okafor have chronic back problems at about the same age in college? Aren't you a big UConn fan and shouldn't you know that?
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11/11/2008  12:52 AM
Posted by VDesai:

Didn't Okafor have chronic back problems at about the same age in college? Aren't you a big UConn fan and shouldn't you know that?

It doesn't fit into his argument though Des.
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11/11/2008  12:53 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by BlueSeats:

I'm shocked...

But seriously, Occam's razor practically assured us this was the reason he wasn't playing.

Give it a rest on the Gallo watch guys, if he gets some burn after the all-star break you can consider it a blessing.

I never heard of anyone so young having these types of back issues that have literally lingered for 6 months---anyone else no 1 player in the NBA who has been hurt like this at 20 years old [as in back injury] I cant think of one in terms of what he has--I can think of knee injuries at a young age but I cant remember back issues with someone this age.

I recall JJ Reddick back problems.


I recall when EO had serious back issues during the championship season in 2004. The thing is both Reddick and Ok4 played through them---Gallinari seems like he cannot despite being off from action for a long time. It's good that he is young and should heal OK but at this point he should be headed to the best back doctor in America for second or third opinions.
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11/11/2008  12:54 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:



I recall when EO had serious back issues during the championship season in 2004. The thing is both Reddick and Ok4 played through them---Gallinari seems like he cannot despite being off from action for a long time. It's good that he is young and should heal OK but at this point he should be headed to the best back doctor in America for second or third opinions.

I definitely agree with that portion of your post. This Knicks medical staff is atrocious.
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11/11/2008  12:56 AM
Posted by VDesai:

Didn't Okafor have chronic back problems at about the same age in college? Aren't you a big UConn fan and shouldn't you know that?

Yeah, him too. I forgot about him. I know JJ Redick had back problems at the time of the draft when he couldn't even participate in workouts. I think Okafor was able to workout for the Magic and Bobcats. I recall the issue brought up by myself and Isles about Gallinari refusing to workout with other players. Knicks medical staff on top of it.
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11/11/2008  12:59 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by BlueSeats:

I'm shocked...

But seriously, Occam's razor practically assured us this was the reason he wasn't playing.

Give it a rest on the Gallo watch guys, if he gets some burn after the all-star break you can consider it a blessing.

I never heard of anyone so young having these types of back issues that have literally lingered for 6 months---anyone else no 1 player in the NBA who has been hurt like this at 20 years old [as in back injury] I cant think of one in terms of what he has--I can think of knee injuries at a young age but I cant remember back issues with someone this age.

I recall JJ Reddick back problems.


I recall when EO had serious back issues during the championship season in 2004. The thing is both Reddick and Ok4 played through them---Gallinari seems like he cannot despite being off from action for a long time. It's good that he is young and should heal OK but at this point he should be headed to the best back doctor in America for second or third opinions.

BRIGGS- think about it, what is the payoff of playing through them? Those guys were veteran college players playing for national championships and playing for their draft status. They HAD to play. Gallo is a young guy adjusting to a new league on a team that has a lot of options ahead of him and is still sorting out its identity. He doesn't contribute much by being on the floor right now so what is the payoff in him trying to play through an injury? He can't help us win and he can only hurt himself more.

I don't really see why this is such an overwrought issue. Let him rest and get himself in a better position to play.
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11/11/2008  1:00 AM
I did a search about Redick because I recall that was a huge issue about his back even on draft day and found this. Scary huh?

NEW YORK -- Former Duke guard J.J. Redick told ESPN.com on Tuesday that he has a herniated disk which is pressing on a nerve, but dismissed rumors that he needs surgery for the injury.

Instead, Redick said he received a cortisone shot and has been pain free for a week. He said he expects to play in the NBA summer league, the USA Basketball national team trials in July in Las Vegas and during training camp in the fall with whichever team selects him in Wednesday night's NBA draft.


Redick said he suffered the injury while working out at Duke earlier this month before going to the Orlando pre-draft camp.

"It really flared up during the combine during the vertical tests and the sprinting," said Redick. "I've been pain free. It was asymptomatic. I've been doing exercises to strengthen my back. I'll be back on the court in a week."

A number of teams told ESPN.com that Redick's disk injury caused their team doctors to flag his medical at the Orlando pre-draft camp. Doctors from every team review the medical tests at the camp. Some red flagged him, which would mean not to take him while others yellow flagged him which means to watch his recovery. Sometimes where a team is picking can affect the color of the flag term. Still, doctors are more conservative at various teams. For example, Chicago's doctors red flagged T.J. Ford's neck injury out of Texas while Milwaukee's were OK with the Bucks selecting him in the 2003 draft.

Redick told ESPN.com that no one said he "failed the physical."

"I've seen two back specialists and worked with a physical therapist and they don't think surgery is needed," Redick said. "I've had positive feedback. Hopefully I'll play in the summer league which will be a good prep for me for the national team trials."

Redick said the pain was the reason he shut down workouts, canceling workouts at Boston and Philadelphia in the past week. He worked out for Houston (8), Golden State (9), Seattle (10) and Utah (14) before the injury.

"First of all, I will be healthy and I'll be fine for training camp," Redick said.

Redick said he doesn't think his DWI arrest on June 12 in Durham should affect his draft positioning and was hoping that he would still go 8-14, which is what his agent Arn Tellem has been telling him and ESPN.com.

"The teams understand that it was an isolated incident," Redick said. "Obviously I'm very sorry about what happened. I don't think it will have any affect on the court. I still think I can play and I'm a person of high character."

Still, the last few weeks -- the waiting, the DWI, the back injury -- have made him anticipate the arrival of Wednesday night's draft.

"It's going to be a huge relief," Redick said of being drafted. "I'm a nervous wreck right now. I've had a lot of anxiety the last few weeks. Not everyone will admit that but I will because of the uncertainty of the situation."

The reality is that Redick may end up with two possible destinations late in the lottery -- at Orlando at No. 11 and Utah at No. 14 as long as they agree with Redick that his back is fine.

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11/11/2008  1:03 AM
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by BlueSeats:

I'm shocked...

But seriously, Occam's razor practically assured us this was the reason he wasn't playing.

Give it a rest on the Gallo watch guys, if he gets some burn after the all-star break you can consider it a blessing.

I never heard of anyone so young having these types of back issues that have literally lingered for 6 months---anyone else no 1 player in the NBA who has been hurt like this at 20 years old [as in back injury] I cant think of one in terms of what he has--I can think of knee injuries at a young age but I cant remember back issues with someone this age.

I recall JJ Reddick back problems.


I recall when EO had serious back issues during the championship season in 2004. The thing is both Reddick and Ok4 played through them---Gallinari seems like he cannot despite being off from action for a long time. It's good that he is young and should heal OK but at this point he should be headed to the best back doctor in America for second or third opinions.

BRIGGS- think about it, what is the payoff of playing through them? Those guys were veteran college players playing for national championships and playing for their draft status. They HAD to play. Gallo is a young guy adjusting to a new league on a team that has a lot of options ahead of him and is still sorting out its identity. He doesn't contribute much by being on the floor right now so what is the payoff in him trying to play through an injury? He can't help us win and he can only hurt himself more.

I don't really see why this is such an overwrought issue. Let him rest and get himself in a better position to play.

No there is no comparison. Gallo had 5 months to heal--Ok4 had a few days. Ok4 was fine for NBA workouts and played the next season--Gallo is not even close to playing and is hurt again.
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