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knicks1248
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11/5/2008  11:09 PM
Ward with out Ewing, I just don't see this guy avg more then 8ppg and 5ast 2'5rbs. That really sucks in this system especially if you logging major mins. Does somebody know something i don't know, is he holding back...WTH
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11/5/2008  11:42 PM
Posted by knicks1248:

Ward with out Ewing, I just don't see this guy avg more then 8ppg and 5ast 2'5rbs. That really sucks in this system especially if you logging major mins. Does somebody know something i don't know, is he holding back...WTH

Ward was better than Duhon is.

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11/5/2008  11:47 PM
Ward is way better than Duhon....Ward used to get in there and mix it up. Duhon just seems like a fly on the wall.
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11/5/2008  11:50 PM
Ward was a winner.

Duhan a 4 year starter for Duke with ACC and national championship qualifications.

He is not our savior, but a start in the right direction. We don't have many players with winning backgrounds.
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11/6/2008  1:08 AM
Ward was better but only at certain points in his career... Ward was pretty bad at times... its a good comparison
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11/6/2008  1:46 AM
Duhon is Jared Jeffries at the point guard position.
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11/6/2008  1:58 AM
Yea but where is the jesus bracelet?
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11/6/2008  2:39 AM
Posted by BigC:

Duhon is Jared Jeffries at the point guard position.

Thank you Big C!!!

I don't know what you guys are seeing.....the guy is a terrible basketball player. Stop repeating stuff people are saying about him cuz its not true.
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11/6/2008  3:37 AM
did u guys expect Duhon to be a star? he is what he is, a role playing backup PG that's a stopgap until we find a better option w/a real future on this team... why do u think he was signed to a 2 year deal?
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11/6/2008  5:48 AM
Duhon and Ward in the same sentence? Someone please shoot this man. A better comparison is Duhon=Eisley.
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11/6/2008  7:06 AM
Posted by TMS:

did u guys expect Duhon to be a star? he is what he is, a role playing backup PG that's a stopgap until we find a better option w/a real future on this team... why do u think he was signed to a 2 year deal?

we could have found a cheaper option with an nbdl type player.
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11/6/2008  7:37 AM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by TMS:

did u guys expect Duhon to be a star? he is what he is, a role playing backup PG that's a stopgap until we find a better option w/a real future on this team... why do u think he was signed to a 2 year deal?

we could have found a cheaper option with an nbdl type player.

probably could have at that... does it matter? he doesn't effect our cap situation in 2010 at all.
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11/6/2008  8:30 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by TMS:

did u guys expect Duhon to be a star? he is what he is, a role playing backup PG that's a stopgap until we find a better option w/a real future on this team... why do u think he was signed to a 2 year deal?

we could have found a cheaper option with an nbdl type player.

probably could have at that... does it matter? he doesn't effect our cap situation in 2010 at all.

Doesn't effect the cap situation yeah, but the Knicks coulda signed someone else cheaper for two years and then signed a guy they could actually use like a shooting guard or a big man.
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11/6/2008  8:36 AM
I really don't understand why everyone is so down on Duhon, is it the money that we paid him for 2 years ? The guy is a good quality serviceable player, he plays defense, he can run the offense and looks to get guys involved. We really need to stop with these comparison to the 90's era knicks, it gets us nowhere. I'm currently happy with Duhon, to me all he needs to do is improve his 3pt shooting because he's going to get a few open looks a game.

What this team needs is some damm spot up 3pt shooters, the league has really lost those players over the years. People like dell curry, dale ellis, miller, price, everyone is one on one
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11/6/2008  8:39 AM
What this team needs is some damm spot up 3pt shooters

what are u talking about bro? we got an awesome shooter in Roberson, remember?
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11/6/2008  8:42 AM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by TMS:

did u guys expect Duhon to be a star? he is what he is, a role playing backup PG that's a stopgap until we find a better option w/a real future on this team... why do u think he was signed to a 2 year deal?

we could have found a cheaper option with an nbdl type player.

probably could have at that... does it matter? he doesn't effect our cap situation in 2010 at all.

Doesn't effect the cap situation yeah, but the Knicks coulda signed someone else cheaper for two years and then signed a guy they could actually use like a shooting guard or a big man.

who woulda made a difference signed to a 2 year MLE contract? Chris Anderson? come on... Sasha Vujacic woulda been a nice addition but he signed a 3 year deal to stay in LA... that wouldn't have fit the 2010 plan Walsh had in mind when he signed Duhon to begin with... i'm not saying this to be snotty, just dunno what players u're talking about that we shoulda signed instead.
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11/6/2008  9:09 AM
Posted by Elite:

Ward was better but only at certain points in his career... Ward was pretty bad at times... its a good comparison

You're right...it's not a huge separation between the two but Ward had one nice thing going for him and that was balls or the ability to be clutch every now and then. Maybe Duhon has that too but I don't think to the same degree. Maybe I haven't watched him play enough to say for sure.

One thing is for sure, Duhon looked good to us before this year but that was because he was playing against the Knicks.

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11/6/2008  9:10 AM
Posted by franco12:



we could have found a cheaper option with an nbdl type player.

We should have spent that money trying to land Nenad Krstic.

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11/6/2008  9:13 AM
Posted by oohah:
Posted by Elite:

Ward was better but only at certain points in his career... Ward was pretty bad at times... its a good comparison

You're right...it's not a huge separation between the two but Ward had one nice thing going for him and that was balls or the ability to be clutch every now and then. Maybe Duhon has that too but I don't think to the same degree. Maybe I haven't watched him play enough to say for sure.

One thing is for sure, Duhon looked good to us before this year but that was because he was playing against the Knicks.

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Ward is 1 of my favorites from the good ol' days but talent wise there isn't much difference at all other than Ward's toughness & willingness to throw his body in front of much bigger players to draw a charge at any time... much of that has to do w/his football playing background i'm sure... the main difference IMO was the fact that Ward played alongside guys like Ewing, Oakley, Starks, Camby, Spree, etc., all players who were defensive minded... on this current squad Duhon's playing alongside Zach, D Lee, Jamal & Nate, none of whom are defensively oriented players.
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11/6/2008  9:36 AM
the main difference IMO was the fact that Ward played alongside guys like Ewing, Oakley, Starks, Camby, Spree, etc., all players who were defensive minded

You're absolutely right. The Knicks defense i the 90's was anchored by their frontcourt. They made the backcourt guys look like much better defensive players than they were...even Starks. Starks played good D but he was undersized and had the propensity to get abused by regular-sized and big shooting guards.

Gerald Wilkins on the other hand, could go toe-to-toe muscle-wise with anybody.

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