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BRIGGS
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8/21/2003  11:51 AM
I don't know how many of you watched the game but I will tell you this, Nene is going to be an nBA franchise type player. he'senormous-he looked bigger physically than Duncan and when he was in there he was the best rebounder on the court. He s big and very quick for his size. No NBA player could stop him on the glass. If he didnt get into FT and played 40 minutes the score wouldve been different. When he went out the first time Brazil lost their lead. When he was on the bench starting the 3 rd Q Duncan and brand were playing ping pong inside with the basketball.

Andersen Veraijo played well to but he reminds me of a bigger version of Ira newble. Hes like a 3-4 combo player.

Tiaggo Splitter nothing special that I saw NO wher near NENes class.

Nene is going to be a bonafide NBA franchise player in the middle.
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8/21/2003  12:02 PM
Nene is going to be aight, but you forgot once the USA put on the press, Brazil was done. Nene doesn't have self control yet too many fouls to early over zealous on defense, he has potential but you make it sounds like he will be another HAKEEM THE DREAM.

[Edited by - playa2 on 08/21/2003 21:24:32]

[Edited by - playa2 on 08/21/2003 21:33:52]
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8/21/2003  12:09 PM
Ive seen enough from Nene from last year to last night to realize he is better than any Knick. Hes an enormous athletic anchor player.He had nothing to do with the press but everything to do with why the US was having troubles scoring in the first half inside. Lets face it we BLEW the 2002 draft so badly. we could easily have a frontline of Amare or Nene + Maciej this year. If we had amare or Nene we wouldve been better last year andI think we wouldve picked up Maceij alitlelater down in the 1st round.
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8/21/2003  1:19 PM
Briggs: i saw a ton of denver games. Nene is going to be a fine player, but playa is correct, he is not the Franchise player you are making him out to be. He may be one day but so far from what I have seen of him( which is a lot) with denver, he needs to improve on rebounding and he has no post moves yet... He will be a fine player. Franchise player remains to be seen...
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8/21/2003  2:38 PM
I think Nefe is better than anyone the Knicks have... I'm not even including Dyess.
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8/21/2003  3:06 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Ive seen enough from Nene from last year to last night to realize he is better than any Knick. Hes an enormous athletic anchor player.He had nothing to do with the press but everything to do with why the US was having troubles scoring in the first half inside. Lets face it we BLEW the 2002 draft so badly. we could easily have a frontline of Amare or Nene + Maciej this year. If we had amare or Nene we wouldve been better last year andI think we wouldve picked up Maceij alitlelater down in the 1st round.

I agree we blew the draft last year, again it was the direction the knicks took, Nene along with this years draft class would have given the knicks a hella future....
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8/21/2003  3:42 PM
Nene reminds me of Olawakandi. i don't see him being better than a good C.
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8/21/2003  4:01 PM
Nah,he is going to become a future ZO str8 up. Nene a rookie shut down the MVP of the league in a game. Nene got game and he is only gonna get better. Layden blew that draft.
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8/21/2003  4:11 PM
Nefe appears to have something called HEART...Kandi doesn't until proven otherwise. It should be interesting to see if he can shake his bed rep with KG lighting a little fire under his a**.
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8/21/2003  4:50 PM
everyone is sweating nene, which is fine, but he'd be a forgotten man if dyess didn't get hurt, period. yes, layden is to blame for taking a risk on dyess with the bum knee, but dyess (franchise baller) for jackson (old guy), camby (always injured), and nene (guy with potential) was something any of us would do, period. it's pretty much trading for a surefire franchise baller (recovering from 2 serious injuries) for a far from sure thing in Nene. Camby had to go, and so did jackson.
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8/21/2003  9:04 PM
caseloads: that is the problem, how is dice still a surefire franchise baller after two knee surgeries? That still remains to be seen!!
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8/21/2003  9:31 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Ive seen enough from Nene from last year to last night to realize he is better than any Knick. Hes an enormous athletic anchor player.He had nothing to do with the press but everything to do with why the US was having troubles scoring in the first half inside. Lets face it we BLEW the 2002 draft so badly. we could easily have a frontline of Amare or Nene + Maciej this year. If we had amare or Nene we wouldve been better last year andI think we wouldve picked up Maceij alitlelater down in the 1st round.

Your acting like rookies bode well in NYC, I beg to differ.Too many distractions for some of them who's a lil naive of city lights and fast women. We couldn't have gotten nene and Lampe maybe just one of them. I'm just waiting for the season to start and see what we do the 1st 20 games or so to see how many of you will be saying ....ahh i'm suprised to see ny win games against good teams. Chaney will bring out the best in the roster we have, he has a way of gearing the system towards the players on his roster.
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8/21/2003  9:57 PM
Nene will dominate like Hakeem one day. He is a pure center who is only getting better with each game. Hakeem when he was 19 was in college and holding his own and got better every game and Nene is going in that direction. He will be great in time. When I wanted Nene on the KNicks last year I had envisioned him as a center not a PF but a center. He is now standing at 6'11'' and getting bigger in height and body. By the time he is done with his grwth he going to stand 7' 275 lbs. With athelticism. He still has some learning to do as of now though. BUt in time your looking at 20-10-3 from the center position.
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8/21/2003  10:48 PM
There you go Playa 2, you’re always spitting out that company line. You sound like a media guide, or one of those con jobs they do on MSG network…”Don Chaney will get the most out of this team”…blah, blah, blah, b.s.

I think the “young players can’t handle NY” is excuse number #141 in the Knick handbook for why they never get young players on the team that are worth a damn. Its such a silly premise. Like their aren’t distractions in other cities like L.A; a city that has done quite fine with young players. Or that veterans are not susceptible to the same things.

When I hear “Young players cant handle NY” or “Knick fans won’t accept rebuilding” I take it as code speak for “we are just too incompetent and lazy to draft well, that’s why we haven’t had a decent draft pick since 1988”

The Knicks had the ability to draft either Amare, Nene, or Caron Butler…What do we get? Another multi-million dollar disaster.
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8/22/2003  5:32 AM

Well Nene blossoming in the NBA is just about right. LayDown trades Nene for Dyess, who has been (and prolly will be) nothing but the "franchise" cheerleader. That cat gets paid 14 mil to sit in the front row. It is one of the bigger nails in LayDown's coffin as GM of this team. Thank God. Draft day 2002 being a failure is an understatement to say the least.

Whether Nene becomes a franchise-type player is besides the point. We got the shaft when it comes to that deal.
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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8/22/2003  6:37 AM
Posted by sebstar:

There you go Playa 2, you’re always spitting out that company line. You sound like a media guide, or one of those con jobs they do on MSG network…”Don Chaney will get the most out of this team”…blah, blah, blah, b.s.

I think the “young players can’t handle NY” is excuse number #141 in the Knick handbook for why they never get young players on the team that are worth a damn. Its such a silly premise. Like their aren’t distractions in other cities like L.A; a city that has done quite fine with young players. Or that veterans are not susceptible to the same things.

When I hear “Young players cant handle NY” or “Knick fans won’t accept rebuilding” I take it as code speak for “we are just too incompetent and lazy to draft well, that’s why we haven’t had a decent draft pick since 1988”

The Knicks had the ability to draft either Amare, Nene, or Caron Butler…What do we get? Another multi-million dollar disaster.
Sebstar, why do you care what my opinion is ? You guys are worst than a broken record stating the same ol thing every day. You guys repeat the same ol crap and think someone really cares when all you do is put a spin on what someone else has already said. Do you remember Spencer Haywood in NY? How ABOUT MICHEAL RAY RICHARDSON? Those are example of guys who were on top of their game and couldn't handle NYC. Even though it's drugs in every city NY is the Big Apple some guys can't handle the Stardom, some can't handle media expectations of them. NY brings a different distraction than any other city in the NBA including L.A. NY is where the League headquarters are located and has some of the most knowledgable B-BALL fans in the world.In all reality L.A. is fake NY is real!

[Edited by - playa2 on 08/22/2003 06:45:09]
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8/22/2003  8:36 AM
Yo Briggs........

why keep living in the past. WE know Nay Nay will be a fine player, hell, Denver could have had Nay Nay and Amare! Lampe would have fallen to second round as it was the only way to pay him what he needed to get out of his contract. Can't just say Lampe would have come our way.

At some point we give it up and move forward!

Look, we could have had Vin Baker! IF Lampe becomes Novitzksi, then all is forgivin.

We should have traded Ewing for Kobe, only the 13th pick back then.

Happy?
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8/22/2003  9:27 AM
I agree with you Layden spelled backwards. We have to give it up at some time and just move forward and forget the shoulda coulda and woulda. Nene will be fine but you have to look at it this way that trade has given the NYK it point guard of the future Frank Williams and it Center/Power forward of the future in Lampe. If Lampe is putting up 17-8 next year and Williams gives 14 points and 7-8 assists a game then the deal becomes a wash. Dice or no Dice. Unless you calling the often injured Camby and Mark "sloth action" Jackson the difference makers. Dice would have been nice to have around but I think in the long run this trade will work for the Nuggets and Knicks.
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8/22/2003  10:12 AM
Posted by Vmart:

Mark "sloth action" Jackson
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8/22/2003  7:14 PM
Nene is still developing in Kiki's system, and the same can be said of Butler, Boozer, Ming, etc. Better than any knick ....c'mon Briggs. Watch out for Amare Stoudemire, this player got game.
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