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EnySpree
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9/3/2008  1:11 PM
He wants 12 million per year and won't settle for 10 mill?

He's threatening to go to Moskow?

Question? Would anybody even miss him? He's not 12 mill per year good.

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9/3/2008  1:12 PM
he's pulling a vlad rad...
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9/3/2008  1:24 PM
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9/3/2008  1:25 PM
Gordon wants to be paid on par with Luol Deng. His contention is he is just as valuable, if not moreso, because he is the team's leading scorer and number one option. Don't think he'll win this argument, but historically his stance is the correct one. Deng is just so much more versatile and has upside left to him.

I doubt he goes to Moskow, but he has to create some demand to get more money. NBA teams aren't exactly lining up for his services.
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9/3/2008  1:31 PM
if monta ellis can get $66 mil, then ben gordon should get $66 mil b/c of the market that's been set.

and imho, ben gordon is more valuable to the bulls than deng.
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9/3/2008  1:48 PM
Ben gordon is pricing himself out.. the bulls offered him 6/59, that is almost 10 per year, and this is with him comming off a down year, both he and his team the bulls. No other team is even making an offer, and forget that he is a RFA, if someone wanted him that bad, they could just make an offer they know the bulls won't match.. ben is being stubborn and he is misguided.. he should take that 6/59 and run...
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Posted by djsunyc:

if monta ellis can get $66 mil, then ben gordon should get $66 mil b/c of the market that's been set.

and imho, ben gordon is more valuable to the bulls than deng.

I don't agree with that. the bulls are better when Deng is scoring and defending... He is one of the bulls few legit, two way players. Gordon is one dimensional, he is good at that dimension, but 6/59 is a damn good offer. Monta ellis got paid probably a little over his market value because the warriors lost Baron and just could not afford to lose ellis, who is on the cusp of becomming a special player in GS....
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Posted by tkf:

Ben gordon is pricing himself out.. the bulls offered him 6/59, that is almost 10 per year, and this is with him comming off a down year, both he and his team the bulls. No other team is even making an offer, and forget that he is a RFA, if someone wanted him that bad, they could just make an offer they know the bulls won't match.. ben is being stubborn and he is misguided.. he should take that 6/59 and run...

vlad rad says "pimps up, ho's down..."
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Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by tkf:

Ben gordon is pricing himself out.. the bulls offered him 6/59, that is almost 10 per year, and this is with him comming off a down year, both he and his team the bulls. No other team is even making an offer, and forget that he is a RFA, if someone wanted him that bad, they could just make an offer they know the bulls won't match.. ben is being stubborn and he is misguided.. he should take that 6/59 and run...

vlad rad says "pimps up, ho's down..."



???? okaaay
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9/3/2008  1:58 PM
vlad rad turned down $45+ mil from the sonics to become an unrestricted free agent, only to sign a $24 mil MLE deal with the lakers...

[Edited by - djsunyc on 09-03-2008 1:58 PM]
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9/3/2008  2:05 PM
Gordon can and is already replaced on the Bulls if they let Ben walk.....they got Hughes and thabo. Why do they need Ben Gordon?

They should ignore him and tell him to kick rocks. They simply don't need him nor do they need to sign and trade for anyone.
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Posted by EnySpree:

Gordon can and is already replaced on the Bulls if they let Ben walk.....they got Hughes and thabo. Why do they need Ben Gordon?

They should ignore him and tell him to kick rocks. They simply don't need him nor do they need to sign and trade for anyone.

nobody on the bulls can hit a shot outside of 18 feet other than gordon...
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9/3/2008  2:31 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by EnySpree:

Gordon can and is already replaced on the Bulls if they let Ben walk.....they got Hughes and thabo. Why do they need Ben Gordon?

They should ignore him and tell him to kick rocks. They simply don't need him nor do they need to sign and trade for anyone.

nobody on the bulls can hit a shot outside of 18 feet other than gordon...

They would still be better off in the long run......they have no reason to cash Ben out. Nobody does.....I'd let him walk. They won't regret it.....they can get by with what they already have.....which also includes Hinrich and a certain memphis guard.
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9/3/2008  2:51 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Gordon can and is already replaced on the Bulls if they let Ben walk.....they got Hughes and thabo. Why do they need Ben Gordon?

They should ignore him and tell him to kick rocks. They simply don't need him nor do they need to sign and trade for anyone.

I think they probably told him exactly that. They have no reason to give in because Rose is probably going to fill in some of the scoring that Gordon provided.
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9/3/2008  3:18 PM
They can have Crawford for a lot less. Trade anyone?
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9/3/2008  3:36 PM
I think Benjy is shorter than Monta. It is also arguable that Monta is younger and a better player. So honestly why would anyone want Ben Gordan? If he had a hint of PG skills then maybe he would get more respect, but since he is a rich man's Eddie House he wont get $12 mill. I think $10mill a yr is overpaying for Benjy and thats my boy.

I just find it funny that every team is on a budget now gearing up for the 2010 sweepstakes.
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Posted by djsunyc:

vlad rad turned down $45+ mil from the sonics to become an unrestricted free agent, only to sign a $24 mil MLE deal with the lakers...

[Edited by - djsunyc on 09-03-2008 1:58 PM]

ah... got it... yea, now I remember that.. he doesn't look to happy does he... Ben gordon needs to see this pic.. LOL
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Posted by Cookdcokehop:

I think Benjy is shorter than Monta. It is also arguable that Monta is younger and a better player. So honestly why would anyone want Ben Gordan? If he had a hint of PG skills then maybe he would get more respect, but since he is a rich man's Eddie House he wont get $12 mill. I think $10mill a yr is overpaying for Benjy and thats my boy.

I just find it funny that every team is on a budget now gearing up for the 2010 sweepstakes.


And I can't blame any team either. I mean with lebron possibly a FA then, wouldn't you want a shot at him or chris bosh? it would be a shame not to be a player in that sweepstakes.. just a shame!!
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Posted by tkf:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

I think Benjy is shorter than Monta. It is also arguable that Monta is younger and a better player. So honestly why would anyone want Ben Gordan? If he had a hint of PG skills then maybe he would get more respect, but since he is a rich man's Eddie House he wont get $12 mill. I think $10mill a yr is overpaying for Benjy and thats my boy.

I just find it funny that every team is on a budget now gearing up for the 2010 sweepstakes.


And I can't blame any team either. I mean with lebron possibly a FA then, wouldn't you want a shot at him or chris bosh? it would be a shame not to be a player in that sweepstakes.. just a shame!!

Yeah I can't blame anyone that feels they can't win now for trying to get in that sweepstakes. You turn yourself into an instant playoff team and possibly title contender so why not. The key is not to put all your eggs in one basket and to have a base of solid players or else these players won't come to you. Number two you have to make sure that if you lose out on the sweepstakes you aren't starting from zero.

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Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

I think Benjy is shorter than Monta. It is also arguable that Monta is younger and a better player. So honestly why would anyone want Ben Gordan? If he had a hint of PG skills then maybe he would get more respect, but since he is a rich man's Eddie House he wont get $12 mill. I think $10mill a yr is overpaying for Benjy and thats my boy.

I just find it funny that every team is on a budget now gearing up for the 2010 sweepstakes.


And I can't blame any team either. I mean with lebron possibly a FA then, wouldn't you want a shot at him or chris bosh? it would be a shame not to be a player in that sweepstakes.. just a shame!!

Yeah I can't blame anyone that feels they can't win now for trying to get in that sweepstakes. You turn yourself into an instant playoff team and possibly title contender so why not. The key is not to put all your eggs in one basket and to have a base of solid players or else these players won't come to you. Number two you have to make sure that if you lose out on the sweepstakes you aren't starting from zero.


exactly...
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