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Donnie Walsh & Co. exploring the possibility of signing free agent center D.J. Mbenga
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rmears718
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9/2/2008  10:26 AM
Can anyone on the UK forum substantiate the rumor?
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9/2/2008  10:46 AM
such a weird series of moves this summer. well, hopefully that means jerome james will be bought out?
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9/2/2008  11:00 AM
Should do a little TMS' fetish for a shotblocker. At least he hasn't been posting pictures of DJ Mbenga on the Alba thread :).

Seriously, Mbenga isn't much, but he's better than James. He averages about a 0.5 blocks per 6 minutes of play
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9/2/2008  11:18 AM
Posted by VDesai:

Should do a little TMS' fetish for a shotblocker. At least he hasn't been posting pictures of DJ Mbenga on the Alba thread :).

Seriously, Mbenga isn't much, but he's better than James. He averages about a 0.5 blocks per 6 minutes of play

Wow, you can't pay enough for those numbers
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9/2/2008  11:40 AM
this would be stored in the who cares dept
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9/2/2008  12:03 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by VDesai:

Should do a little TMS' fetish for a shotblocker. At least he hasn't been posting pictures of DJ Mbenga on the Alba thread :).

Seriously, Mbenga isn't much, but he's better than James. He averages about a 0.5 blocks per 6 minutes of play

Wow, you can't pay enough for those numbers

But on our team, with our weak perimeter defenders, he would probably average a block a minute!
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9/2/2008  12:08 PM
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"But on our team, with our weak perimeter defenders, he would probably average a block a minute!"
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Good point!!!...As of now - there are no shot blockers on the team...Besides Wilson Chandler.
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9/2/2008  2:30 PM
Haha, I always liked this dude. He pretty much sucks besides blocking shots but he's a tough player and his name is great. Bring the great Mbenga to NY!
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9/2/2008  3:19 PM
Posted by VDesai:

Should do a little TMS' fetish for a shotblocker. At least he hasn't been posting pictures of DJ Mbenga on the Alba thread :).

Seriously, Mbenga isn't much, but he's better than James. He averages about a 0.5 blocks per 6 minutes of play

he ain't the impact type shotblocker i'm looking for... i want someone who can change the game from a defensive standpoint like a Camby or JO... i realize those guys are few & far between so i'd settle for someone like Sean Williams... Mbenga ain't gonna see many appreciable minutes on this team IMO.
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9/2/2008  4:02 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

this would be stored in the who cares dept

And if it happens?

Then it can be stored in the "What in the hell is he doing and why?" department along with Duhon, Roberson, the 2nd round pick, and Ewing Jr.

These are the types of moves a 65 win team makes to shore up it's 11-15 rotation while gearing up for another long promising season.

These are NOT the moves anyone looking to either improve a current team - or tear down and then rebuild an ailing team - EVER MAKES.

Yet, It's what we've got, which is disappointing at best so far.
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9/2/2008  4:10 PM
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by BRIGGS:

this would be stored in the who cares dept

And if it happens?

Then it can be stored in the "What in the hell is he doing and why?" department along with Duhon, Roberson, the 2nd round pick, and Ewing Jr.

These are the types of moves a 65 win team makes to shore up it's 11-15 rotation while gearing up for another long promising season.

These are NOT the moves anyone looking to either improve a current team - or tear down and then rebuild an ailing team - EVER MAKES.

Yet, It's what we've got, which is disappointing at best so far.

I don't get what you are expecting. This team is cap strapped and loaded with terrible contracts. The only thing that Donnie is doing is acquiring guys that he knows will play hard, while we wait for all of these contracts to melt off the books. It's really that simple.
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9/2/2008  4:16 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by BRIGGS:

this would be stored in the who cares dept

And if it happens?

Then it can be stored in the "What in the hell is he doing and why?" department along with Duhon, Roberson, the 2nd round pick, and Ewing Jr.

These are the types of moves a 65 win team makes to shore up it's 11-15 rotation while gearing up for another long promising season.

These are NOT the moves anyone looking to either improve a current team - or tear down and then rebuild an ailing team - EVER MAKES.

Yet, It's what we've got, which is disappointing at best so far.

I don't get what you are expecting. This team is cap strapped and loaded with terrible contracts. The only thing that Donnie is doing is acquiring guys that he knows will play hard, while we wait for all of these contracts to melt off the books. It's really that simple.

I'm expecting a team that is strapped with garbage to facilitate the removal of that garbage.

Not make bizarre mediocre additions to that strapped team which is exactly what we've done.

These additions don't help today's problem - they don't fix tomorrow's problem - and they're not a part of a future ressurection so why make them?

They have all been completely unneeded additions - unhelpful additions - for the present and future.

None of them change a culture, none of them improve the present, none of them improve the future, none of them would be a part of an expected improved future.

So why make them? Why not stand pat if we're so backed into a corner?
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9/2/2008  4:17 PM
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by BRIGGS:

this would be stored in the who cares dept

And if it happens?

Then it can be stored in the "What in the hell is he doing and why?" department along with Duhon, Roberson, the 2nd round pick, and Ewing Jr.

These are the types of moves a 65 win team makes to shore up it's 11-15 rotation while gearing up for another long promising season.

These are NOT the moves anyone looking to either improve a current team - or tear down and then rebuild an ailing team - EVER MAKES.

Yet, It's what we've got, which is disappointing at best so far.

I agree that these are marginal improvements and the types of moves teams like the Celtics, Lakers, or Pistons make to improve their roster.

But I don't think it's disappointing. Isiah Thomas got this team in this God-awful-****ty-mess making big moves. The only way to undo this is to let contracts run their course. At the very least, the team is chipping away at its weaknesses: a "true" PG, a guy who can shoot, players with bball IQ, etc.
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9/2/2008  4:19 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by BRIGGS:

this would be stored in the who cares dept

And if it happens?

Then it can be stored in the "What in the hell is he doing and why?" department along with Duhon, Roberson, the 2nd round pick, and Ewing Jr.

These are the types of moves a 65 win team makes to shore up it's 11-15 rotation while gearing up for another long promising season.

These are NOT the moves anyone looking to either improve a current team - or tear down and then rebuild an ailing team - EVER MAKES.

Yet, It's what we've got, which is disappointing at best so far.

I agree that these are marginal improvements and the types of moves teams like the Celtics, Lakers, or Pistons make to improve their roster.

But I don't think it's disappointing. Isiah Thomas got this team in this God-awful-****ty-mess making big moves. The only way to undo this is to let contracts run their course. At the very least, the team is chipping away at its weaknesses: a "true" PG, a guy who can shoot, players with bball IQ, etc.

This I agree with but I'd rather have given guys we already have the "stop gap/ride it out" job. Not add more mediocre talent to do the same exact thing. That's all.

G-Nate/Collins
G-Craw/Q

I saw no reason to ADD Duhon/Roberson to that. It's not an improvement now or later, we already have the "stop-gap/wait it out" in house, just seems like a confusing series of moves.


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9/2/2008  4:22 PM
Posted by Cosmic:


I'm expecting a team that is strapped with garbage to facilitate the removal of that garbage.

Not make bizarre mediocre additions to that strapped team which is exactly what we've done.

These additions don't help today's problem - they don't fix tomorrow's problem - and they're not a part of a future ressurection so why make them?

They have all been completely unneeded additions - unhelpful additions - for the present and future.

None of them change a culture, none of them improve the present, none of them improve the future, none of them would be a part of an expected improved future.

So why make them? Why not stand pat if we're so backed into a corner?

I just don't get what you're so upset about. These guys that have been signed aka Duhon and MAYBE Mbenga, are both going to come off the cap before 2010 and at the very worst they are going to play hard for us.

I would imagine that part of the reason for bringing in vet guys like this is to keep guys like Lee, Gallo, Nate, Wilson playing hard. Why let these young guys who are so involved in our franchises future be sucked into playing with *******s like Marbury, Zach, Jerome James, Eddy Curry, guys who don't give a ****. Any time we sign guys like we have, we are one step closer to getting rid of some of the trash on this team. It's that simple.
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9/2/2008  4:35 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Cosmic:


I'm expecting a team that is strapped with garbage to facilitate the removal of that garbage.

Not make bizarre mediocre additions to that strapped team which is exactly what we've done.

These additions don't help today's problem - they don't fix tomorrow's problem - and they're not a part of a future ressurection so why make them?

They have all been completely unneeded additions - unhelpful additions - for the present and future.

None of them change a culture, none of them improve the present, none of them improve the future, none of them would be a part of an expected improved future.

So why make them? Why not stand pat if we're so backed into a corner?

I just don't get what you're so upset about. These guys that have been signed aka Duhon and MAYBE Mbenga, are both going to come off the cap before 2010 and at the very worst they are going to play hard for us.

I would imagine that part of the reason for bringing in vet guys like this is to keep guys like Lee, Gallo, Nate, Wilson playing hard. Why let these young guys who are so involved in our franchises future be sucked into playing with *******s like Marbury, Zach, Jerome James, Eddy Curry, guys who don't give a ****. Any time we sign guys like we have, we are one step closer to getting rid of some of the trash on this team. It's that simple.

I'm not upset about anything. I just believe that these moves were entirely unneeded in the grand scheme of things. We already had the players in house to ride out an absolutely necessary and likely time consuming rebuild. Why add more garbage? To do what?

That's what I have failed to see anyone able to explain: What exactly poor players like Roberson, Duhon, Ewing are supposed to do for us (both short term and potentially long term) that Nate, Crawford, Q, Collins can't already do seeing they're already here and most certainly better players to begin with?

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9/2/2008  4:44 PM
I think we are going to see some major dumps in the near future for players like JJ Fat, Malik, and Dinglebury. Walsh is just looking to fill out the roster.
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9/2/2008  4:45 PM
Nobody here evevn commented on this. It could just be BS.
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9/2/2008  4:48 PM
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Cosmic:


I'm expecting a team that is strapped with garbage to facilitate the removal of that garbage.

Not make bizarre mediocre additions to that strapped team which is exactly what we've done.

These additions don't help today's problem - they don't fix tomorrow's problem - and they're not a part of a future ressurection so why make them?

They have all been completely unneeded additions - unhelpful additions - for the present and future.

None of them change a culture, none of them improve the present, none of them improve the future, none of them would be a part of an expected improved future.

So why make them? Why not stand pat if we're so backed into a corner?

I just don't get what you're so upset about. These guys that have been signed aka Duhon and MAYBE Mbenga, are both going to come off the cap before 2010 and at the very worst they are going to play hard for us.

I would imagine that part of the reason for bringing in vet guys like this is to keep guys like Lee, Gallo, Nate, Wilson playing hard. Why let these young guys who are so involved in our franchises future be sucked into playing with *******s like Marbury, Zach, Jerome James, Eddy Curry, guys who don't give a ****. Any time we sign guys like we have, we are one step closer to getting rid of some of the trash on this team. It's that simple.

I'm not upset about anything. I just believe that these moves were entirely unneeded in the grand scheme of things. We already had the players in house to ride out an absolutely necessary and likely time consuming rebuild. Why add more garbage? To do what?

That's what I have failed to see anyone able to explain: What exactly poor players like Roberson, Duhon, Ewing are supposed to do for us (both short term and potentially long term) that Nate, Crawford, Q, Collins can't already do seeing they're already here and most certainly better players to begin with?

Q and Collins are both garbage, I will gladly take Duhon and even Ewing as upgrades over both of them, they will both play hard. I don't know what Roberson is going to do that Nate/Crawford can't, but frankly I could care less. Atleast I know that if Roberson enters the game, he is going to play his butt off. Who knows how long Nate/Crawford will be around too, it seems like anyone on this team is at risk of being traded and having a guy like Roberson who is being paid peanuts and has the *potential* to be explosive in MikeD's offense isn't the worst thing in the world.
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9/2/2008  4:52 PM
Is DJ Mbenga worth a F*** EM UP thread ala JJFat? Maybe not but I will try

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F' EM UP BIG MAN!



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Donnie Walsh & Co. exploring the possibility of signing free agent center D.J. Mbenga

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