Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by EnySpree:
That boobie is too expensive. Roberson hasn't proved anything on a big stage, but he also whas never given that opportunity. Same player mind you.
Zach, Big Z, Mo williams and Craw is awesome enough......but add Lebron james to that mix holy molly.
I would be annoyed a little if the Knicks did a pure salary dump like this......but as long as the Knicks do well to cut cap and fill in youth I'm down with it......
BTW, who starts at the 2 guard if Craw is traded away? Q? Not a good look.
I just wanna see a plan. Maybe a deal with Clevland gives the Knicks an open spot to sign and trade for Ben Gordon?
A more logical idea would be for Clevland to go for Ben Gordon. They have expirings, like the Knicks but they have a first rounder to throw away unlike the Knicks.
Eny, we aren't going to win anytime soon, so worrying about who will start if we trade Jamal is worthless.
Yeah but the Knicks would have no shooting guards if Craw is traded......eventually a real shooting guard will have to be picked up.
Agree Eny, but maybe that's where a JR Smith signing or trade comes in with Denver.
Say we did it like this (rumors suggest these scenarios might be available):
(1) We cut one of these deals with the Cavs. I'd prefer to deal Zach over Curry (I would think they'd want Zach over Curry anyway; he's the better player, a better fit for them - the stat-stuffer they're looking for to take pressure of LeBron, they're weak at the 4 now w/o Gooden anyway - Big Ben's shot, Varejao's not a starter (more of a role player big off the bench) and JJ Hickson's not ready, plus Big Z's still under contract and still an imposing presence that can stick an 18 footer, rebound and block a shot. I'd like to keep Curry available for another deal (Either Denver or Memphis). And I'd like to get Gibson back in any deal - I think he'll be better than Roberson. He's younger, he's a tremendous little shooter that's shot over 42% from 3 two years in a row now playing big minutes last yr. (over 30 mins. a game) before he got hurt. Let me see Roberson do that. And just like a guy like Jerryd Bayless (who a lot of people doubt has any PG abilities), I think Gibson will show enough ability to at least bring the ball up an initiate offensive sets. He did that fairly well for Texas. Guys like Bayless and Gibson have much more athletic ability and potential to do more things out there for you than strickly spot-up shooters like Steve Kerr or John Paxson for example imo. Plus Daniel Gibson's only 22 yrs. old, an excellent building block that will never make more than 4.8 mil. a season for the next 5 years. I actually think his contract is quite manageable to be honest. You can add a guy like Daniel Gibson and still continue to reduce overall payroll while keeping your eye on upcoming free agency.
(2) We explore any opportunity to pry JR Smith away from the Nuggets in a S&T. And I'd do this at the same time that I was working the Cav thing, this way neither Denver or the Cavs gets any leverage on us. Use David Lee to get this done. Or maybe we can make this into a big three-way deal with us Cleveland and Denver. Somewhere in the vicinity of 2 yrs. 15 mil for Smith. That might get it done. Like I've said before, I could see JR going for this - it'd be an opportunity to come home to the tri-state area (he's from Jersey) & play in front of his family and friends for Mike D'Antoni (a coach ever single player in the league wants to play for) at the Mecca of basketball. That's not the long-term deal this kid's undoubtedly looking for but 2 years at 15 mil. is a real nice payday for him. JR Smith's only 23 yrs. old.
(3) Explore this Memphis rumor for Darko and Crittenton or Lowry. Try and use a Curry/Nate or Mardy package to get this done. Speculation is that Memphis might have inquired about Zach Randolph at some point, although Curry might be a better fit for them. Curry, with PT and a defined role, will produce somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 ppg/7 rebounds at the center spot - he proved that here 2 season's ago. They got lucky acquiring Darell Authur - that kid's their answer at the 4 eventually, while Gasol's brother's a nice big body and capable backup at both big spots. Has the least chance of happening imo so if nothing materializes, so be it, but Memphis might go for this. Curry's contract is better than Zach's and Memphis is a small market.
(4) We sign Justin Williams with the LLE as long as the Roberson signing doesn't interfere. Justin Williams is Sean Williams-lite, might even be just as good. We all agree we need a shot-blocker (including D'Antoni), well here he is. The guy was a force at the collegiate level averaging a double/double points & rebounds along with a whopping 4.5 blocks a game for Wyoming. Good athlete with a huge wing span. This guy would give us the interior defense we've been lacking at the right price and more than make up for David Lee's departure.
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5 - Darko/Justin Williams/Wallace/Jerome James
4 - Gallinari/Williams/Wallace/Jeffries/Malik
3 - Chandler/Q-Rich
2 - JR Smith/Gibson/Q-Rich
1 - Crittenton or Lowry/Duhon/Gibson/Collins
Now I know this is a huge shake-up and some of these players would be thrown right in the fire and expected to produce. And I'd be naive to expect all of this to go down just like this but anything close to this wouldn't be bad. The roster would still need some work but that's a nice young core with a good future with a much more manageable payroll.
[Edited by - finestrg on 08-17-2008 5:08 PM]
) I think it'd be a great deal for both teams. If there is one player that is going to keep Zach Randolph in check, it's going to be LeBron James, so I think Zach would be a huge asset for them since he'd be in a winning situation and BronBron would keep him in check.
8/17/2008 2:41 PM