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djsunyc
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7/25/2008  10:22 AM
what in the blue hell has monta ellis done to warrant getting a 6 year $66 mil deal? i doubt his knee holds up for 1/2 that contract.

nba gm's are really really stupid. like really stupid.
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djsunyc
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7/25/2008  10:24 AM
it's deals like this that mess things up for everybody. this has just set the market for gordon and deng.
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7/25/2008  10:25 AM
Yeah, Gordon and Deng aren't gonna be Bulls much longer.

That contract is just.... wow.
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7/25/2008  10:33 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

it's deals like this that mess things up for everybody. this has just set the market for gordon and deng.

Gordon is gonna want the same if not more.....Deng is gonna want more than both.

Lets all just move to spain and root for real madrid or something.
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7/25/2008  10:33 AM
ridiculous that a player can demand these types of dollars after only 3 years in the NBA & having only averaged 20 ppg once... if i were a talented young player i'd almost wanna be picked in the 2nd round so as not to be laden down to that rookie contract for 5 years.
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7/25/2008  10:35 AM
He put up outstanding stats in his 3rd season. 20 PPG on 53% FG for an SG is outstanding, and 5 rpg, 4 apg are pretty good. It isn't too shocking to me that GS would rather spend $11 mil/year than lose Monta for nothing.
djsunyc
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7/25/2008  10:40 AM
ellis is a really good player but come on - giving out $66 mil? why? let him go on the open market and let someone else set the market for him. if they re-sign bedrins, they will have $35 mil tied up to monta + beidrins + maggette. this is like a repeat of jrich + dunleavy + murphy.
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7/25/2008  10:54 AM
except Biedrins is better than Murph & Ellis is better than all of them
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7/25/2008  10:56 AM
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except Biedrins is better than Murph & Ellis is better than all of them

it's debateable. biedrins has no offensive game to speak of - pure hustle player. ellis now has to handle the load in the backcourt instead of being the 3rd guy behind diddy and sjax. and nellie is only coaching 1 more year.
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7/25/2008  10:59 AM
granted he stays healthy:

with the way he is progressed, by the end of that contract he may be a bargain...

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7/25/2008  11:23 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

what in the blue hell has monta ellis done to warrant getting a 6 year $66 mil deal? i doubt his knee holds up for 1/2 that contract.

nba gm's are really really stupid. like really stupid.


I guess they were afraid he was going to play in europe instead.... rofl!!!
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7/25/2008  11:33 AM
Posted by K22:

Yeah, Gordon and Deng aren't gonna be Bulls much longer.

That contract is just.... wow.

If you are basing it on numbers Monta's contract is justified, especially since he's 22. If anything this sets the market *lower* for Gordon because his numbers arent nearly as good. This makes Gordon a 10mm $ contract tops. Show me how many players in this league from the guard poistion topped the effeciency and production of 20-5-4 53%. Gordon does make up for it a bit of efg because of his 3 point shooting but that isnt worth the extra money. Now is there some teams that would pay BG more than 50mm$ yes--in fact if the Knicks werent tight with the cash --if they paid Duhon 6 then Gordon 12 is a given.

We could offer Lee S+T 5 yrs 40mm$ and Balkman for Gordon.
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7/25/2008  11:42 AM
Biedrins may not be a Carlos Boozer type dump it into him in the low post offensive player but he does have great hands & touch from 15 & in. So, he scores in unsettled situations very well.
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7/25/2008  12:19 PM
ellis was the 3rd option behind diddy and sjax in a run & gun system. gordon was the primary scorer for 3 playoff teams in a 1/2 court offense. gordon in nellie's system may average 27ppg.
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7/25/2008  12:26 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by K22:

Yeah, Gordon and Deng aren't gonna be Bulls much longer.

That contract is just.... wow.

If you are basing it on numbers Monta's contract is justified, especially since he's 22. If anything this sets the market *lower* for Gordon because his numbers arent nearly as good. This makes Gordon a 10mm $ contract tops. Show me how many players in this league from the guard poistion topped the effeciency and production of 20-5-4 53%. Gordon does make up for it a bit of efg because of his 3 point shooting but that isnt worth the extra money. Now is there some teams that would pay BG more than 50mm$ yes--in fact if the Knicks werent tight with the cash --if they paid Duhon 6 then Gordon 12 is a given.

We could offer Lee S+T 5 yrs 40mm$ and Balkman for Gordon.

gordon averaged something like 25ppg vs. the suns, and like 30+ppg the past 2 years vs. the suns.
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7/25/2008  12:28 PM
I would love to get Gordon, he'd be great for MikeD. He's a great shooter and he is great at the end of games. It would be weird with him and Duhon in the backcourt but oh well. I would make that trade Briggs.
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7/25/2008  1:12 PM
I would pay Monta 6yr/66 mill in a flippin heartbeat. What did we give Curry? Ellis is a better all around player than gordon
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7/25/2008  1:50 PM
i think in the Warriors case, they lost Arenas once to this exact same scenario (he was a FA after being a second round pick and went to Washington) and after they lost BDiddy to LAC, they kind of had to overpay to make sure they kept him to keep some good will with their fans.
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7/25/2008  2:49 PM
If Ellis can stay healthy, he will probably produce numbers justifying the deal but I don't see the Warriors winning more games than they did last year.
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7/25/2008  3:50 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by K22:

Yeah, Gordon and Deng aren't gonna be Bulls much longer.

That contract is just.... wow.

If you are basing it on numbers Monta's contract is justified, especially since he's 22. If anything this sets the market *lower* for Gordon because his numbers arent nearly as good. This makes Gordon a 10mm $ contract tops. Show me how many players in this league from the guard poistion topped the effeciency and production of 20-5-4 53%. Gordon does make up for it a bit of efg because of his 3 point shooting but that isnt worth the extra money. Now is there some teams that would pay BG more than 50mm$ yes--in fact if the Knicks werent tight with the cash --if they paid Duhon 6 then Gordon 12 is a given.

We could offer Lee S+T 5 yrs 40mm$ and Balkman for Gordon.

gordon averaged something like 25ppg vs. the suns, and like 30+ppg the past 2 years vs. the suns.

I wonder how hard GMs will laugh if Gordon's agent makes that argument
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