Islesfan is somewhere flaming off!



Camby? Was just traded for a trade exemption.......what does that mean?

#1. That clippers deal was absolutely true and I can't believe Donnie didn't go through with it........because......

#2. .........Denver obviously was trying to dump Marcus Camby for whatever reason. That means Marbs probably could have been traded to get Camby! I have no doubt about that. Marbs contract is way more relief than what the clips gave Denver

So my question to our New team president........

What the hell are you doing?

The Knicks should look like:

Lee/Balkman
Chandler/Gallo
Camby/Curry
Duhon/Nate
Craw/roberson

Curry would then be on his way out......

Right now the knicks are stuck with their tails between their legs.

You ****ed up Donnie......You seriously ****ed up.

EnySpree - give it a rest. Donnie Walsh has been here for all of 15 minutes and you're busting a capillary already?

try decaf

At first glance EnySpree I think many of us also thought the same thing. But Donnie must have gauged any interest that other teams had in Zach before deciding the offer. I thought the trade exception could be traded for draft picks but perhaps he wanted a sure thing or talent in return. If the trade exception can be traded for players than I'm a bit unsure why he let it slip by.

So, he must have seen something and remember, Zach's deal goes one year past our 2010 date, so he might or could be an important piece in the year preceding (as he will be a very large expiring, though that is taking a chance as we don't want a long contract back). hmmm, that trade exception is looking better and better, but Walsh must have a plan, but we at least have this possibility to look back on and bitch at if he doesn't get something done.

EMS

The Answer Man (in a chaise lounger) Has A Cold Beverage (With an umbrella in it) By The Pool

Q. enyspree - What happens now?

A. Anthony Robertson gets to pick the uniform number he wants

Q. enyspree - What deals are out there?

A. I know a guy who has a great deal on some Prada shoes. The again, what you consider as "no brainer moves", have nothing to do with the Knicks basketball blueprint that Donnie Walsh has tacked on his office wall.

Q. enyspree - but what happens now?

A. Dude, it's not about "now". You seem to want this cruise ship to turn suddenly to conform to your fantasy scenarios. C'mon, it's not even August and you're wringing your hands over every single transaction as if it is the end of the world. Hell, they just played the baseball All-Star Game last night.

It's Summer. Take a vacation. Let Donnie do his job.

What annoys the hell out of me is its 2 deals that we needed:

1. Get rid of Zach and still have an exemption to play with. If its not used his contract is off the books regardless.

2. Camby would be Curry's replacement......Camby @ 50 years old is still better than Curry in his 20's.

Let Donnie do his job?

Little ol' enyspree has no say in the matter. This is just a potential folley that we will all be looking back on as a wtf moment.

I can't even figure out a move that's next......is Donnie preparing to go into the season as is?

Posted by Andrew:

Eny don't assume that Denver would have done a Steph for Camby deal. Denver got a much better deal from the Clippers....immediate financial relief and a trade exception.

Denver saved $40 million in salary and luxury tax by trading Camby. No way do they trade him for Marbury. Eny find out the facts before you rant and put down Walsh. He has 3 yrs to trade Zach. It doesnt have to be this week. Patience!!

Posted by BigRedDog:

Posted by Andrew:

Eny don't assume that Denver would have done a Steph for Camby deal. Denver got a much better deal from the Clippers....immediate financial relief and a trade exception.

Denver saved $40 million in salary and luxury tax by trading Camby. No way do they trade him for Marbury. Eny find out the facts before you rant and put down Walsh. He has 3 yrs to trade Zach. It doesnt have to be this week. Patience!!

Nobody's ranting. I'm just stating my view of this whole thing.

I'm one of the "bright side" guys. I'm still waiting and seeing......and hoping.

I just can't get over this quick fix situation that just evaporated in our faces. We have 2-3 years to flip this roster and figure out the path, but sheesh.

If Donnie did the Clippers deal, then where would Denver turn to dump Camby? Only Golden State has the relief they wanted.....oh and the Knicks had Marbs.

Im annoyed but don't excuse this for a Isles fan flame out......nor should anyone be looking for a flame out arguement.

The whole problem with Isles, true and posters like them is they go bonkers and other posters drop the gloves and start sparing........I'm not looking to sparr.........I'm looking and trying to figure out where do the Knicks go from here? What deals are on the horizon? If its next year who's a free agent or could possibly be available next season?

Right Denver's deal with LA was much better than just trading for an expiring. They saved a bunch of money.

Knicks would've been right to do the same if the opportunity presented itself. My only guess is that they think they can rehabilitate Zach's value. They still have some time to institute the "2010" plan- they don't need to rush to take the first move.

Posted by BigRedDog:

Posted by Andrew:

Eny don't assume that Denver would have done a Steph for Camby deal. Denver got a much better deal from the Clippers....immediate financial relief and a trade exception.

Denver saved $40 million in salary and luxury tax by trading Camby. No way do they trade him for Marbury. Eny find out the facts before you rant and put down Walsh. He has 3 yrs to trade Zach. It doesnt have to be this week. Patience!!

He has 2 years to trade Zach. We need him off the team by the 2010 off-season. He blew a golden opportunity. No one knows if any team will want Zach without even demanding we take a penny back again. That $15 mil trade exemption would have been really nice too.

Posted by Andrew:

Posted by franco12:

The stated goal is to get under the cap in 2010- there are not going to be any other options out there to move Zach and be under the cap in 2010.

I don't know how you can assertivly say this. Things change. The Clippers situation just only manifested itself a week ago.

I'll present another possiblilty. Many teams are getting under the cap for 2010 and only a few will have the opportunity to sign one of the top FA's. That gives the Knicks more than a couple options to trade Zach's contract (1 yr remaining) to a team that realizes it will not be using it space for a signing. I'm not saying this will happen or that it even has a great chance at happening...just that there are alot of potential scenerios out there.

Maybe there will be other opportunities.

Bottom line, though, is I don't see how we're going to play next season with Curry and Zach up front? That experiment failed under Isiah. Partly, I think Isiah can be blamed for quitting on the team. But, fundamentally, I do not see how the two of them can co-exist.

Zach's arrival destroyed Curry's value in one season. I think another year of this failed experiment will further damage Zach's already minimal value (A Second Rounder!) around the league.

I just don't see how D'Antoni can feel good thinking about the upcoming season and having to play Zach & Curry.

I hope I am proved wrong.