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7/12/2008  4:22 PM


LAS VEGAS - You get the sense Mike D'Antoni was a little uneasy taking Danilo Gallinari at No. 6 without ever watching him play live. But that sense of the unknown is dissipating after the first two days of summer-league practices here at Vegas' Valley High.

D'Antoni seemed genuinely excited about what he's seen in scrimmages. The Knicks had promised us today we'd get to see some of the practice but the time they let us in, the club was just shooting free throws.

"His toughness and being more athletic than what I thought,'' D'Antoni said. "(Those were) two questions from watching film and until you see him...''

The Knicks open summer-league play Monday vs. Cleveland. Wilson Chandler, who had an impressive end to his rookie year, has also delighted D'Antoni, who probably can envision one day a starting forward tandem of Chandler and Gallinari.

Quentin Richardson arrived in Vegas, about 15 pounds lighter than when the season ended and with a shaved head. Richardson admits he played last season too heavy and that may have been why he had no legs on his suddenly errant jumper. I remember vividly last July Quentin coming to summer league following his surgery and talking about having no pain in his back. But the inactivity led to weight gain.
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7/12/2008  4:27 PM
It sounds that Chandler recover from his injury. MSG released really no news about his status. I saw this too.
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7/12/2008  4:28 PM
This is the time of the year for enjoyment and that's ok, so long as we don't take these optimistic reports too seriously. We'll have a better idea of how things are come November. But for now, everyone's great and will do much better than anyone ever thought.
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7/12/2008  4:46 PM
Posted by Ira:

This is the time of the year for enjoyment and that's ok, so long as we don't take these optimistic reports too seriously. We'll have a better idea of how things are come November. But for now, everyone's great and will do much better than anyone ever thought.

For me summertime is always high on optimism, but in this case it's more than just being hopeful IMO. We have one of the most innovative and successful coaches now and a GM who actually knows what he's doing and has a good track record. When I look at our young talent I believe this will give them the best chance to succeed that we've had in the last 7 yrs.

At this point it's all just talk, just like previous years, but can you really compare this regime with what we've had in the last 7 yrs? Don't you think this is the best situation we've had in all of that time and at the very least that's something to be a bit more optimistic about? It's not the same old, same old.

I believed in what Isiah was preaching, until he proved unable to deliver on the speeches. I believe in the skills and ability of Waltoni and until they do something to make me question them I feel confident in what they can do with this team. IMO contrary to what is felt by many fans, this team has some good talent. At least better than they've shown. A bit of restructuring and solid coaching and this team should improve at the same time as we reduce our cap.
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7/12/2008  8:42 PM
"His toughness and being more athletic than what I thought,'' D'Antoni said. "(Those were) two questions from watching film and until you see him...''

nothing about his stiff legs?
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7/12/2008  9:18 PM
Posted by TMS:
"His toughness and being more athletic than what I thought,'' D'Antoni said. "(Those were) two questions from watching film and until you see him...''

nothing about his stiff legs?
Yeah, not that i'd expect them to actually say anything negative about him at this point, but from what i've seen of him on tape he most certainly DOES NOT HAVE STIFF LEGS. At least not for a guy who's 6-10. That's just some biased opinion by someone who thought he was 6-8. Perhaps it's just part of him growing into his body, which is understandable.
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7/13/2008  12:02 PM
Posted by TMS:
"His toughness and being more athletic than what I thought,'' D'Antoni said. "(Those were) two questions from watching film and until you see him...''

nothing about his stiff legs?

I think that Bird and Magic also had "stiff legs," as did Kevin McHale. Watch them play sometimes. I hope that Gallinari can emulate the stiff legs play of those guys.
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7/13/2008  1:22 PM
What the hell is this "stiff leg syndrome"?
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7/13/2008  2:21 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

What the hell is this "stiff leg syndrome"?

Stiff leg: Reduced mobility or movement of the leg.

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Weaknesses: While there is no doubting his ability to hit the three point shot, Gallinari does struggle with consistency issues … Athletically, he isn’t very explosive and would be considered a slightly below average athlete on the NBA level … This hurts him defensively as he struggles to defend athletic assignments on the perimeter … Some of this will improve as his instincts and, most importantly, his lateral quickness continue to develop … Doesn’t have the blow by speed needed to gain full separation from his defender ... Neglects the mid-range shot too often, which he should utilize more in his game - most of his shots are three pointers or drives to the basket … Despite his size he doesn’t rebound the ball all that well, which speaks a little about his athleticism … Doesn’t move with the greatest of agility as his legs and waist are a bit stiff - while this doesn’t hurt him, most of the time Gallinari’s body control suffers a bit on drives to the basket because of it … Lack of post-up skills prevents him from being able to take full advantage of mismatches … Like most young players, Gallinari could stand to add more strength to his body, but there are some concerns that his athleticism could take a bit of a hit … While he has passing ability, he doesn’t always use it when situations call for it, as he can become too focused on scoring … At nineteen years old he will improve, but his potential isn’t tremendous because he’s not going to grow by vast amounts due to athletic limitations …
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7/13/2008  2:42 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Weaknesses: While there is no doubting his ability to hit the three point shot, Gallinari does struggle with consistency issues … Athletically, he isn’t very explosive and would be considered a slightly below average athlete on the NBA level … This hurts him defensively as he struggles to defend athletic assignments on the perimeter … Some of this will improve as his instincts and, most importantly, his lateral quickness continue to develop … Doesn’t have the blow by speed needed to gain full separation from his defender ... Neglects the mid-range shot too often, which he should utilize more in his game - most of his shots are three pointers or drives to the basket … Despite his size he doesn’t rebound the ball all that well, which speaks a little about his athleticism … Doesn’t move with the greatest of agility as his legs and waist are a bit stiff - while this doesn’t hurt him, most of the time Gallinari’s body control suffers a bit on drives to the basket because of it … Lack of post-up skills prevents him from being able to take full advantage of mismatches … Like most young players, Gallinari could stand to add more strength to his body, but there are some concerns that his athleticism could take a bit of a hit … While he has passing ability, he doesn’t always use it when situations call for it, as he can become too focused on scoring … At nineteen years old he will improve, but his potential isn’t tremendous because he’s not going to grow by vast amounts due to athletic limitations …

I the point of this thread is people are forming their own opinions about him rather than reading the SAME draft report over and over and over again.
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7/13/2008  2:50 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Weaknesses: While there is no doubting his ability to hit the three point shot, Gallinari does struggle with consistency issues … Athletically, he isn’t very explosive and would be considered a slightly below average athlete on the NBA level … This hurts him defensively as he struggles to defend athletic assignments on the perimeter … Some of this will improve as his instincts and, most importantly, his lateral quickness continue to develop … Doesn’t have the blow by speed needed to gain full separation from his defender ... Neglects the mid-range shot too often, which he should utilize more in his game - most of his shots are three pointers or drives to the basket … Despite his size he doesn’t rebound the ball all that well, which speaks a little about his athleticism … Doesn’t move with the greatest of agility as his legs and waist are a bit stiff - while this doesn’t hurt him, most of the time Gallinari’s body control suffers a bit on drives to the basket because of it … Lack of post-up skills prevents him from being able to take full advantage of mismatches … Like most young players, Gallinari could stand to add more strength to his body, but there are some concerns that his athleticism could take a bit of a hit … While he has passing ability, he doesn’t always use it when situations call for it, as he can become too focused on scoring … At nineteen years old he will improve, but his potential isn’t tremendous because he’s not going to grow by vast amounts due to athletic limitations …


No one wants to believe this Pharezone, they want to believe it won't hurt his game in the NBA.

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7/13/2008  2:56 PM
Did Larry Bird have stiff legs?
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7/13/2008  3:01 PM
I've got a hollow leg.
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7/13/2008  3:50 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Did Larry Bird have stiff legs?

When Bird played he had some athletcism, but very little athletic ability.

Bird knew the game and knew how to position himself very well, the guy was fundamentally sound.

In birds's era, if you knew how to play fundamentally and played on a team who moved the ball around intelligently you would do well.

But remember when he and magic played , the league best teams didn't rely on athletcism alone, they relied on ball movement and defense.

It wasn't about going one on one and performing just to get a new shoe deal, they played a different game than what is played today.

Today if you are not athletic, you must play on a team that moves the ball around to limit the exposure for your lack of athletic ability.



[Edited by - playa2 on 13-07-2008 15:55]
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7/13/2008  4:20 PM
Posted by playa2:
Posted by misterearl:

Did Larry Bird have stiff legs?

When Bird played he had some athletcism, but very little athletic ability.

Bird knew the game and knew how to position himself very well, the guy was fundamentally sound.

In birds's era, if you knew how to play fundamentally and played on a team who moved the ball around intelligently you would do well.

But remember when he and magic played , the league best teams didn't rely on athletcism alone, they relied on ball movement and defense.

It wasn't about going one on one and performing just to get a new shoe deal, they played a different game than what is played today.

Today if you are not athletic, you must play on a team that moves the ball around to limit the exposure for your lack of athletic ability.



[Edited by - playa2 on 13-07-2008 15:55]

Which is exactly the way that D'Antioni plays.

The 2008 finals consisted of Boston Celtics & LA Lakers and neither team was superior athletic. If you were to put one thing in common between those 2 teams. Allen, Pierce, KG, Kobe, Gasol, Odom all know how to play the game and have good bball IQs.

Spurs aren't a super athletic team and have won championships based on high IQ basketball. Shaq didn't play on super athletic teams when he won his championships either. He did have that one super athletic player in Kobe & Wade though.
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7/13/2008  4:24 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

What the hell is this "stiff leg syndrome"?

It means the dude runs like Frankenstein.

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7/13/2008  4:37 PM
If this kid is 6-10 or 6-11 he can get by with stiff legs. Most of these Euro players that don't play in the Spurs back court look pretty stiff in the legs around the league.
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7/13/2008  4:51 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:
Posted by playa2:
Posted by misterearl:

Did Larry Bird have stiff legs?

When Bird played he had some athletcism, but very little athletic ability.

Bird knew the game and knew how to position himself very well, the guy was fundamentally sound.

In birds's era, if you knew how to play fundamentally and played on a team who moved the ball around intelligently you would do well.

But remember when he and magic played , the league best teams didn't rely on athletcism alone, they relied on ball movement and defense.

It wasn't about going one on one and performing just to get a new shoe deal, they played a different game than what is played today.

Today if you are not athletic, you must play on a team that moves the ball around to limit the exposure for your lack of athletic ability.



[Edited by - playa2 on 13-07-2008 15:55]

Which is exactly the way that D'Antioni plays.

That's the way STEVE NASH PLAYS.

We are all waiting to see if a coached D,Antoni team can play the same way without Nash at the helm.

Too many people give D,Antoni credit when Nash was the one who made passing the ball contagious on the phoenix team.

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7/13/2008  5:06 PM
Posted by playa2:
Posted by newyorknewyork:
Posted by playa2:
Posted by misterearl:

Did Larry Bird have stiff legs?

When Bird played he had some athletcism, but very little athletic ability.

Bird knew the game and knew how to position himself very well, the guy was fundamentally sound.

In birds's era, if you knew how to play fundamentally and played on a team who moved the ball around intelligently you would do well.

But remember when he and magic played , the league best teams didn't rely on athletcism alone, they relied on ball movement and defense.

It wasn't about going one on one and performing just to get a new shoe deal, they played a different game than what is played today.

Today if you are not athletic, you must play on a team that moves the ball around to limit the exposure for your lack of athletic ability.



[Edited by - playa2 on 13-07-2008 15:55]

Which is exactly the way that D'Antioni plays.

That's the way STEVE NASH PLAYS.

We are all waiting to see if a coached D,Antoni team can play the same way without Nash at the helm.

Too many people give D,Antoni credit when Nash was the one who made passing the ball contagious on the phoenix team.

They installed that style of play as soon as D'Antoni became coach of the Suns. They traded Marbury away and continued to run that style throughout the rest of the sesaon. They didn't win much games, but they were fun to watch and played pretty scrappy ball.

Granted Nash had a huge part in getting D'Antoni to win as much as he did in Pheniox. But we aren't talking about that. We are talking about Gallo and his ability to play in D'Antoni's style.

Nash excells in Euro style ball, D'Antoni and Nash made the perfect tandem. Gallo's game is built to play in D'Antoni's style Steve Nash or no Steve Nash.
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