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6/22/2008  10:28 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3454157


Brandon Jennings, who signed a letter of intent to play at Arizona, is looking at the unprecedented option of playing overseas next season to get ready for the 2009 NBA draft if he's not eligible to play for the Wildcats next season.

Jennings told ESPN.com that he is exploring the possibility of a professional basketball career. Jennings' mother, Alice Knox, has retained an attorney, Jeffrey Valle, to help look into the possibility that Jennings could play professionally in Europe while he waits to become eligible for the 2009 NBA draft.

Jennings, who is from the Los Angeles area but played the last two seasons at Oak Hill Academy (Va.), turns 19 on Sept. 23 and would need to spend one year out of high school and be 19 to be eligible for the 2009 draft.

The 6-2 Jennings is rated as the top point guard in the class of 2008 by ESPN.com. Jennings scored 12 points, had nine assists and six turnovers in the McDonald's All-American game in Milwaukee March 26.

"It's something I'm considering now," Jennings said. "I still want to go to Arizona but if things don't go right, I'm considering going overseas."

Jennings said he will get his standardized test results back next Thursday. This is the third time he has taken a standardized test. Jennings said he was red-flagged for a jump in his score from the first to the second test. He said he didn't know his scores.

"The first time I took it I didn't try, the second time I did so I had to take it a third time," Jennings said.


Arizona assistant coach Mike Dunlap said Friday that the staff was well aware that Jennings was looking into playing overseas.

"He's creating an option if things fall apart," Dunlap said. "I get that."

But Jennings is slated to be in Tucson on Monday to start summer school. He has been admitted to the institution. It's unclear what kind of affect having him on campus would have on Jennings' decision -- assuming he shows up.

Jennings has been staying with New Jersey Nets point guard Marcus Williams while playing in a summer league in the area in the tri-state area. He is close friends with Williams' father, Kelly, who is from Los Angeles as well.

Jennings said the professional players he has played with both in the New York-New Jersey area and back in Southern California told him he could compete with players overseas.

"Mentally I know I can play in the NBA, but physically is where it would hit me," Jennings said.

Jennings and his mother said that Jennings probably would have declared for the NBA draft had the new rule not been put in place two seasons ago (requiring a player to be one year out of school and at least 19 in the calendar year of the draft).

Jennings originally committed to USC before changing his commitment to Arizona. He said that had coach Lute Olson not returned from a year-long absence, then he wouldn't even have considered playing for the Wildcats.

Jennings said that with rising junior forward Chase Budinger deciding to withdraw from the NBA draft and return to school, the Wildcats would have a chance to be an elite team next season.

Jennings would be the lead guard next to experienced players Nic Wise, Chase Budinger and Jordan Hill in the post, making Arizona a potential top 25 team.

"Either [option] is good for me," Jennings said. "I just think I would develop more if I went overseas and I would have played pro ball for a year. But if I went to Arizona we would have a good team because Chase is coming back."

Valle said that the family is looking at all of the pros and cons and is trying to get a pulse on the interest from an international team. Valle said Jennings doesn't have an agent.

"It's an alternative approach," said Valle, a L.A.-based family attorney. "It makes sense. We're trying to get the eligibility issues sorted out. The main thing is that he's considering doing something different."

Jennings and Knox both cited renowned grassroots basketball creator Sonny Vaccaro's insistence that going overseas should be a viable option to combat the new draft rule for high school seniors talented enough to play in the NBA but prevented to do so for at least a year.

Reached Friday, Vaccaro said he hasn't advised Jennings. But when told Jennings was considering the option, he said, "It makes sense. It's one of the smartest things I've heard. It's a viable thing. I have personally spoken to teams internationally in Europe, Asia and Africa who are interested in this [taking high school graduates]."

Vaccaro said that high school graduates weren't ready to make the jump overseas the past two classes (2006 and 2007 high school seniors) because the NBA draft rule was so new. But now he said they are catching up and the "kids know it's a business. They see this as an option to work, a viable option."

But making this happen for Jennings is still a tough chore. Multiple NBA executives told ESPN.com Friday that in order for a high school senior to get a true picture of which teams were interested, then he would have to sign with an agent who is connected with overseas teams.

The NBA executives said that teams in Europe aren't designed to just sign up an 18-year-old American. They have junior programs where younger players go through a system to get to the primary club team. But if an agent were working for Jennings, then they might be able to secure a deal, although playing time might be an issue.

The other option for Jennings if he's ineligible for Arizona is to go to the NBA D-League. He would be eligible because he's a high school graduate, but he wouldn't be able to get called up to an NBA roster.

He would be able to play in the D-League and then go through the 2009 NBA draft. Former Iowa State guard Mike Taylor took that route after he was dismissed from school. He is eligible for the draft next week.

The problem with Jennings playing in the D-League, according to a number of NBA sources, is that he would be a potential target for players who would look at embarrassing Jennings as a way to increase their stock. The D-League is filled with players trying to make a living, and one source said it could get rough for Jennings.

Knox reiterated that her son has no issue traveling the globe. She said that she has consulted with a number of former coaches for Jennings and the move was endorsed.

"Brandon mentioned players like Tony Parker and Jose Calderon, point guards he admires who developed their game overseas and had no college," Knox said. "Brandon's main goal is that he wants to play professional basketball to take care of his family."

"The reason why I would consider going overseas is to play pro ball for year and develop," Jennings said. "I just want to be ready next year [for the draft] and come out and show I don't have any weaknesses."

Jennings said that if he were eligible at Arizona he would probably play only one season -- a season that the Wildcats were counting on, with Jennings to help offset the loss of freshman Jerryd Bayless.

If Jennings does choose Europe, then he would be a trend-setter, although it's too early to say if he would have any followers.

"And I hope to know what I'm doing by July," Jennings said. "I want to get this story out, get some feedback and know what's out there for me before I make my decision."



[Edited by - nyk4ever on 06-22-2008 10:28 PM]
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6/22/2008  10:57 PM
He should play overseas. Then when Europe realizes how good this kid is, they will offer him a crazy contract and it will start a major war with the nba cuz kids will say...."cha-ching"!........why do I have to play in college one year whn I can go to europe and still make nba money......the euro is worth more anyway!

I hopr this kid goes overseas and I hope more americans do the same and burn this league to the ground.
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6/22/2008  11:05 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

He should play overseas. Then when Europe realizes how good this kid is, they will offer him a crazy contract and it will start a major war with the nba cuz kids will say...."cha-ching"!........why do I have to play in college one year whn I can go to europe and still make nba money......the euro is worth more anyway!

I hopr this kid goes overseas and I hope more americans do the same and burn this league to the ground.

That will definitely screw the NCAA anf NBA because there are no rookie contracts in Europe. If you are good from the start they put out the big bucks just look at Tiago Splitter this guy left the Spurs because the only thing they could offer him was a rookie contract. Instead he took the big bucks from Europe smart move on his part. This would defintely start a New trend.

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6/22/2008  11:19 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by EnySpree:

He should play overseas. Then when Europe realizes how good this kid is, they will offer him a crazy contract and it will start a major war with the nba cuz kids will say...."cha-ching"!........why do I have to play in college one year whn I can go to europe and still make nba money......the euro is worth more anyway!

I hopr this kid goes overseas and I hope more americans do the same and burn this league to the ground.

That will definitely screw the NCAA anf NBA because there are no rookie contracts in Europe. If you are good from the start they put out the big bucks just look at Tiago Splitter this guy left the Spurs because the only thing they could offer him was a rookie contract. Instead he took the big bucks from Europe smart move on his part. This would defintely start a New trend.



Stern has plans to make the NBA become a Global League so it may not have that huge of impact for any extended period of time. It is interesting that NBA Champions are crowned as "World Champions" when the league isn't a Global one. Also when NBA League Players are referred to as the best on the planet, well is this really the case? Yes and No. When we take players from foreign countries and place them in our league I guess but what if this current situation does turn into a trend? There are other players in foreign countries who are better than many of the 450+ players(foreign non foreign) in the NBA and if the NBA doesn't go global there will be another league which could boast the same as having the best players on the planet.
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6/22/2008  11:43 PM
Didn't Lebron James say he loved China or Japan. What if someone like Lebron said, " you know what? I want my legacy to be different. I'm signing with a foreign club"

Seriously, like what if something like this were to happen?
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6/22/2008  11:44 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Didn't Lebron James say he loved China or Japan. What if someone like Lebron said, " you know what? I want my legacy to be different. I'm signing with a foreign club"

Seriously, like what if something like this were to happen?

We'd probably call them a commie bastard and move on.
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6/23/2008  12:43 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by EnySpree:

Didn't Lebron James say he loved China or Japan. What if someone like Lebron said, " you know what? I want my legacy to be different. I'm signing with a foreign club"

Seriously, like what if something like this were to happen?

We'd probably call them a commie bastard and move on.

interesting that when Yi Jianlian was hedging on playing in MIL people were ragging on the guy's commitment & desire to play in the NBA... how is this situation any different?
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6/23/2008  12:46 AM
Posted by TMS:



interesting that when Yi Jianlian was hedging on playing in MIL people were ragging on the guy's commitment & desire to play in the NBA... how is this situation any different?

Well for one TMS, IF YOU READ THE ARTICLE you would know that Jennings might not have a choice but to play over seas because he can't get high enough SAT scores to get into college. Thats a bit different than Yi's situation.
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6/23/2008  1:12 AM
that's all BS... it's all about the chedda man, same as in Yi's case... C.R.E.A.M.
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6/23/2008  1:16 AM
Posted by TMS:

that's all BS... it's all about the chedda man, same as in Yi's case... C.R.E.A.M.

Yeah but I don't see how he has much of an option if he can't play in college because his scores aren't high enough. How is that similar to what Yi did?
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6/23/2008  1:33 AM
Yi wanted to control where he was going cuz he knew there's be more marketing appeal for him to play in a major market... Jennings knows he can make cheese playing overseas rather than going to college & still get drafted by the NBA later on... you don't honestly think he's going to college to get an education, do ya bro? he can showcase his talents overseas & won't have to follow those ridiculous NCAA rules against accepting gifts from agents while he's in college by doing that.

in the end, both kids are basing their thinking on the almighty dollar... i don't see any difference there, but we're gonna rag on 1 guy because he's some ungrateful international player that doesn't wanna play in the NBA while the other is a smart kid who figured out how to circumvent the system & do the right thing for himself & his future? odd that Yi is the one who's playing in the NBA now while the other is the one who's planning to play overseas... & last time i checked international players not being able to pass the SAT never held them back from profiting in the NBA... why should it hold back 1 of our kids? that's not a valid reason here IMO... this kid wants to get paid just like any kid would w/his talents... i'd probably do the same thing if i were him & i'm not knocking the kid for wanting it just like i couldn't blame Yi for wanting to maximize his marketing potential.
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6/23/2008  5:51 AM
"He's creating an option if things fall apart," Dunlap said. "I get that."

But Jennings is slated to be in Tucson on Monday to start summer school. He has been admitted to the institution. It's unclear what kind of affect having him on campus would have on Jennings' decision -- assuming he shows up.

Jennings has been staying with New Jersey Nets point guard Marcus Williams while playing in a summer league in the area in the tri-state area. He is close friends with Williams' father, Kelly, who is from Los Angeles as well.

Jennings said the professional players he has played with both in the New York-New Jersey area and back in Southern California told him he could compete with players overseas.

"Mentally I know I can play in the NBA, but physically is where it would hit me," Jennings said.

Jennings and his mother said that Jennings probably would have declared for the NBA draft had the new rule not been put in place two seasons ago (requiring a player to be one year out of school and at least 19 in the calendar year of the draft).


"Either [option] is good for me," Jennings said. "I just think I would develop more if I went overseas and I would have played pro ball for a year. But if I went to Arizona we would have a good team because Chase is coming back."

Valle said that the family is looking at all of the pros and cons and is trying to get a pulse on the interest from an international team. Valle said Jennings doesn't have an agent.

"It's an alternative approach," said Valle, a L.A.-based family attorney. "It makes sense. We're trying to get the eligibility issues sorted out. The main thing is that he's considering doing something different."

Jennings and Knox both cited renowned grassroots basketball creator Sonny Vaccaro's insistence that going overseas should be a viable option to combat the new draft rule for high school seniors talented enough to play in the NBA but prevented to do so for at least a year.

Reached Friday, Vaccaro said he hasn't advised Jennings. But when told Jennings was considering the option, he said, "It makes sense. It's one of the smartest things I've heard. It's a viable thing. I have personally spoken to teams internationally in Europe, Asia and Africa who are interested in this [taking high school graduates]."

Vaccaro said that high school graduates weren't ready to make the jump overseas the past two classes (2006 and 2007 high school seniors) because the NBA draft rule was so new. But now he said they are catching up and the "kids know it's a business. They see this as an option to work, a viable option."

But making this happen for Jennings is still a tough chore. Multiple NBA executives told ESPN.com Friday that in order for a high school senior to get a true picture of which teams were interested, then he would have to sign with an agent who is connected with overseas teams.
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The NBA executives said that teams in Europe aren't designed to just sign up an 18-year-old American. They have junior programs where younger players go through a system to get to the primary club team. But if an agent were working for Jennings, then they might be able to secure a deal, although playing time might be an issue.

Mr NBA Excutive what is the difference in a young NBA draftee being signed and sitting on the bench in the association ?

The other option for Jennings if he's ineligible for Arizona is to go to the NBA D-League. He would be eligible because he's a high school graduate, but he wouldn't be able to get called up to an NBA roster.
Some more red tape to stop the young man from earning more money sooner in his career .

He would be able to play in the D-League and then go through the 2009 NBA draft. Former Iowa State guard Mike Taylor took that route after he was dismissed from school. He is eligible for the draft next week.

The problem with Jennings playing in the D-League, according to a number of NBA sources, is that he would be a potential target for players who would look at embarrassing Jennings as a way to increase their stock. The D-League is filled with players trying to make a living, and one source said it could get rough for Jennings.
This is why some euros stay overseas and get stronger and learn the game more, WHILE GETTING PAID!

Knox reiterated that her son has no issue traveling the globe. She said that she has consulted with a number of former coaches for Jennings and the move was endorsed.

"Brandon mentioned players like Tony Parker and Jose Calderon, point guards he admires who developed their game overseas and had no college," Knox said. "Brandon's main goal is that he wants to play professional basketball to take care of his family."

"The reason why I would consider going overseas is to play pro ball for year and develop," Jennings said. "I just want to be ready next year [for the draft] and come out and show I don't have any weaknesses."

Jennings said that if he were eligible at Arizona he would probably play only one season -- a season that the Wildcats were counting on, with Jennings to help offset the loss of freshman Jerryd Bayless.


If Jennings does choose Europe, then he would be a trend-setter, although it's too early to say if he would have any followers.

"And I hope to know what I'm doing by July," Jennings said. "I want to get this story out, get some feedback and know what's out there for me before I make my decision."

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6/23/2008  8:06 AM
Hey, the guy is smart to consider all his options and make the decision that's best for him and his family - just like the rest of us would. Good luck to him in whichever route he goes.
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6/23/2008  8:10 AM
wait.. I am confused. He's allowed to play in Europe? Is thats a legal option why do all these guys go to the NCAA for a year?
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6/23/2008  9:19 AM

Looks like the kid might not be able to pass the test so he needs options.

Development league is an option! So why don't kids do this more often?

NOt that much money, and he'll get beat on by older players? Might he get squashed internationally? What if he starts slow and gets benched? could his value drop? What is he gets hurt playing in Turkey? That would hurt his value also? Will he get a multil year deal? Would he have to buy out his deal?

Its one thing is he had college as a viable option then he has LEVERAGE. Without it he can't dictate his terms.

I guess when the next Lebron comes thru high school and has choices we'll see the tru test. A player in Europe can make more in his rookie years than in the NBA. That is what will stress the system. A guy goes overseas and does not want to come back for the rookie scale.
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6/23/2008  9:21 AM
a) so they're checking him for cheating right?

"This is the third time he has taken a standardized test. Jennings said he was red-flagged for a jump in his score from the first to the second test. He said he didn't know his scores"

b) yes he's allowed to play in Europe, technically he's even allowed to play in Europe before he graduates (but then he'll have to get his diploma in Europe or at least try else he won't be allowed to do so by most European countries).

The NBA cannot stop anyone from getting a job elsewhere, which it is after all, it can only control the rights acquirement system for getting into the NBA.

The Europeans are allowed to combine school and playing for a professional club, which is why the good talent finds it way to proper coaches waaay earlier then in the states. Again depending on which country but it's almost the same as in MLB, where players are shuffled around with divisions (called up is the term right?) and the youth has their own identical system albeit far less teams.

c) European teams are getting a better bankroll AND the euro is strong compared to the dollar. Teams can also rent your apartment, car en carpe diems (doesn't count towards your salary although might be taxed depending on which European country) so if you're good you can have it really good in Europe.
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6/23/2008  9:39 AM
knicksbabyyeah, what is considered a decent contract for a 17-18 year old kid playing basketball in Europe?
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Ah well that's a rather tough question as there are no sites that give out salary information. Only the bigger signings actually make the news.

The thing is, most teams give their young players that have promise (starting at 12 and up) a decent but lowish salary, since they are investing and usually see low returns. Probably a lot more then the NBDL can pay though but less then a minimum 2nd round rookie contract.

Top salaries are between 5 and 2 million, those are the few, but what salary is the most common is unknown to me.

An American however should look at it like college

- what positions are filled
- so what will be my estimated playing time
- what is the level/divisions being played in
- what is my competition on the roster
- what is the style of play
- can I get along with the head coach
- is there a chance at a national championship
- is it a euroleague team

It's after all a chance to learn, get paid and have exposure.
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6/23/2008  10:36 AM
Posted by knicksbabyyeah:

Ah well that's a rather tough question as there are no sites that give out salary information. Only the bigger signings actually make the news.

The thing is, most teams give their young players that have promise (starting at 12 and up) a decent but lowish salary, since they are investing and usually see low returns. Probably a lot more then the NBDL can pay though but less then a minimum 2nd round rookie contract.

Top salaries are between 5 and 2 million, those are the few, but what salary is the most common is unknown to me.

An American however should look at it like college

- what positions are filled
- so what will be my estimated playing time
- what is the level/divisions being played in
- what is my competition on the roster
- what is the style of play
- can I get along with the head coach
- is there a chance at a national championship
- is it a euroleague team

It's after all a chance to learn, get paid laid and have exposure.

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