Posted by TMS:
tell me why again we're giving up the #6 pick AND the cap space to Indy for JO & a pick 5 slots lower in the draft? shouldn't Marbury's expiring be enough? we're taking a $23 million dollar contract off their books in '09/'10, that's a big deal especially when you factor in potential luxury tax savings... if anything they should be tossing us their pick just for us to take that contract off their hands, much like the Knicks would have done if those Philly trade rumors were true.
i don't get how y'all can say the Knicks would be the ones overpaying in the other proposal when they'd be unloading $34 mil in the deal, while it seems fair value to move down 5 slots while taking on a longer term contract in this one.
JO is no longer a premier player in this league & his contract, while it won't kill our cap situation after 2010, is still an albatross... i have no problem giving up Marbs for JO straight up w/o Indy's pick coming back if i have to, but to give them the better lottery pick in the process is completely unnecessary if you ask me.
a better deal would be something like Marbs & D Lee for JO & the #11... then using the #11 to unload Zach's contract on someone for expirings... that way you hold onto the #6, you gain a defensive bigman down low while getting rid of the 2 biggest poisonous influences on this roster, & you gain a ton of cap flexibility in 2010... or if u want u can try to move up to #3 using the #6 & #11 picks to take either Mayo or Beasley... i think everyone should be able to be content if Walsh were able to pull that off.
[Edited by - TMS on 06-17-2008 12:48 AM]
JOneal is still elite IMHO. How many 20/10 guys are there in the league who DEFEND? If he is healthy, that's what he is. I don't mind trading down the 5 spots if we can get Westbrook at 11, a guy many of us seem comfortable with at 6. Also, the idea that Indiana would trade JOneal for David Lee and then sign David Lee to a big extension seems kinda funny to me. If they're looking to create cap room next summer, why would they want a guy who has an extension kicking in. And Indiana isn't in danger of hitting the luxury tax next year anyway, so they aren't saving double their contract value - they get the big man they want in the draft and hit the free agent market a year early. We get one of the guards we want in the draft and add JOneal and tell Zach to go home. People freak out about trading down in the draft - but if we want to manage the cap, if we can draft a guy at 11 we like (and i like westbrook a lot), we save a LOT of money compared to drafting the same guy at 6.
The trade seems simpler than the idea of giving up multiple assets to get Mayo, who I don't trust to be worth the effort. I think if we got JOneal and Westbrook in one swoop, a ton of our needs would be addressed.
6/17/2008 10:01 AM