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mythfaze
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6/14/2008  11:38 AM
Via HoopsHype, the Portland Tribune's Kerry Eggers updates us on Zach Randolph's latest visit to Rip City on May 31.
Zach was out enjoying himself at Ohm nightclub when, at 1:30 a.m., police responded to a 911 call about a disturbance.

"We were told Zach showed up with an entourage and got into a disagreement with a known gang member and drug dealer," Mike Reese, central precinct commander for the Portland Police Bureau, tells the Portland Tribune's Nick Budnick.

When police arrived, the scene at Ohm "looked like an old western barroom brawl, with chairs and tables being thrown around ... the bar was trashed," Reese says. Police emptied out the remaining patrons and shut down the club.

Aah, Z-Bo. How the police officers of Portland missed you. How Portland has missed you. It seems worth nothing the reason why Z-Bo was in Portland: he had a May 30 court date for a January incident where a man alleged Zach and old buddy Qyntel Woods beat him up for snitching about Qyntel's dog situation. (Randolph settled, Eggers surmises.)
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6/14/2008  11:41 AM
My God! We are stuck with this piece of s#*#. With each passing sky line, he completely burns and destroys the little bit of value he might have left. Damn, Zeke and Zack screwed this organization big time.

Anyway we can get Roger Goodell in here to be the commissioner so he can ban punks like this?

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6/14/2008  11:44 AM
From the Oregonian, 6/10.

Bacote claimed he lived in fear over the next two years as Woods, Randolph and a circle of their followers harassed him by phone and in person.

The suit claimed that Bacote, a 34-year-old rapper who goes by the name "Mackin' Rob," was surrounded by Woods, Randolph and their friends after performing at the Roseland Theater in mid-October 2004. Woods, now 27, confronted Bacote by saying "Why you rat on me, dude?" and punching him in the chest with both fists. The suit claimed Randolph, now 26, added "You a snitch, man," pushed Bacote from behind and egged on Woods, who was holding Bacote's arm as another man choked him.

The suit also alleged that Randolph struck Bacote in the chest at a nightclub.

Bacote's complaint claims that his life was threatened twice. In one instance, several men he believed to be friends of the players yelled from a luxury car, "Snitches die where we come from, punk."

The suit had been scheduled to go to trial Monday in Multnomah County Circuit Court.

Aimee Green:503-294-5119; aimeegreen@news.oregonian.com

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6/14/2008  11:46 AM
I hope this doesn't convince Walsh to trade him with the 6th pick. Isiah Thomas still works for the Knicks??????????
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6/14/2008  12:45 PM
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6/14/2008  12:50 PM
I could care less about the capspacee. If u can't trade him, then buy his ass out
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6/14/2008  1:36 PM
Where are those morons who said it couldn't hurt to keep him another year and his trade value wouldn't go lower. Yup, it's all about being a 20 year old 20-10 center.
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6/14/2008  1:39 PM
Well you know what--the NFL has been firing guys if they continue to get in trouble. Fire him for conduct detrimental to the NBA. Why should a team or it's fans have to suffer for a players actions? No reason to swap extremely valuable assets to get rid of him--that is not a reasonable outcome--that would be called a weak hand. You always play from strength--and if the firm arm of the NBA law and Mr Dolan has to crack down on Zach. If not fire him suspend him for 20-41 games without pay. 1/4 to 1/2 of the season will wake him up.
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6/14/2008  1:42 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Where are those morons who said it couldn't hurt to keep him another year and his trade value wouldn't go lower. Yup, it's all about being a 20 year old 20-10 center.

Im glad you're not running the country because countries with a rogue outlook would handle you like a chump willing to compromise. You don't give in to virulent behaviour/actions--you punish them.
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6/14/2008  1:47 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:

Where are those morons who said it couldn't hurt to keep him another year and his trade value wouldn't go lower. Yup, it's all about being a 20 year old 20-10 center.

Im glad you're not running the country because countries with a rogue outlook would handle you like a chump willing to compromise. You don't give in to virulent behaviour/actions--you punish them.
I'd rather get rid of him and let someone else worry about how to punish him. But how would you punish him anyway? Please don't tell me something like "bench him." You're not naive enough to think an owner is going to let a player with $50 mil left on his contract be benched, are you?
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6/14/2008  1:51 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:

Where are those morons who said it couldn't hurt to keep him another year and his trade value wouldn't go lower. Yup, it's all about being a 20 year old 20-10 center.

Im glad you're not running the country because countries with a rogue outlook would handle you like a chump willing to compromise. You don't give in to virulent behaviour/actions--you punish them.
I'd rather get rid of him and let someone else worry about how to punish him. But how would you punish him anyway? Please don't tell me something like "bench him." You're not naive enough to think an owner is going to let a player with $50 mil left on his contract be benched, are you?

What's the difference between that and when we buy guys out or fire them and they get paid to do nothing after that? Something with Zach has to be done. I just pray it doesn't include the pick or David Lee.
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6/14/2008  1:51 PM
Randolph going after gang members and drug dealers.

See the man changed his ways.

He said hey man, I don't like the way you have been selling drugs to kids, and recruiting kids to be apart of your gang.
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6/14/2008  1:52 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:

Where are those morons who said it couldn't hurt to keep him another year and his trade value wouldn't go lower. Yup, it's all about being a 20 year old 20-10 center.

Im glad you're not running the country because countries with a rogue outlook would handle you like a chump willing to compromise. You don't give in to virulent behaviour/actions--you punish them.
I'd rather get rid of him and let someone else worry about how to punish him. But how would you punish him anyway? Please don't tell me something like "bench him." You're not naive enough to think an owner is going to let a player with $50 mil left on his contract be benched, are you?

It would be very simple if I was in charge suspension for conduct detrinetal to the team and go to the league office and start the process of terminating his contract for his multiple problems over the years. Im not giving into anyone--I will dictate the policy. Im not hurting my team if I own it???!!!
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6/14/2008  1:59 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:

Where are those morons who said it couldn't hurt to keep him another year and his trade value wouldn't go lower. Yup, it's all about being a 20 year old 20-10 center.

Im glad you're not running the country because countries with a rogue outlook would handle you like a chump willing to compromise. You don't give in to virulent behaviour/actions--you punish them.

What are you blabbering about now? Funny but it doesn't seem that anybody has punished Zach for his behavior/actions. Not the legal system, the NBA or his team.

Keeping him would be punishing the team and it's fans. Your implausible suggestion to fire him or suspend him for an extended period of time doesn't do anything to change that. Trading him does. Now do you understand the value in trading him? I doubt it.
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6/14/2008  2:04 PM
I'm still not trading Zach with the 6th pick just to get rid of him, we need the pick.
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6/14/2008  2:07 PM
On a serious note. When you have to give up the #6 lottery pick in order to trade a player and get back Reggie Evens & #16. There value doesn't get any lower then that. Thats the lowest level you can be in terms of a trade.

If thats the case then Id rather buy Randolph out and keep the #6 pick. Id rather have #6 six pick and guranteed cap space in 2011. Then have #16 pick and hope to be able to get cap space by 2010. Or end up trading even more assets(like Lee,Chandler,Nate) in order to get cap space by 2010 with the huge risk that Lebron, Wade only use us to get better deals by there respective teams and we end up trading the #6, Lee, Chandler by packaging them with Crawford &/or Curry &/or Jefferies only to end up with a 2nd/3rd tier free agent.
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6/14/2008  2:10 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:

Where are those morons who said it couldn't hurt to keep him another year and his trade value wouldn't go lower. Yup, it's all about being a 20 year old 20-10 center.

Im glad you're not running the country because countries with a rogue outlook would handle you like a chump willing to compromise. You don't give in to virulent behaviour/actions--you punish them.
I'd rather get rid of him and let someone else worry about how to punish him. But how would you punish him anyway? Please don't tell me something like "bench him." You're not naive enough to think an owner is going to let a player with $50 mil left on his contract be benched, are you?

It would be very simple if I was in charge suspension for conduct detrinetal to the team and go to the league office and start the process of terminating his contract for his multiple problems over the years. Im not giving into anyone--I will dictate the policy. Im not hurting my team if I own it???!!!

Briggs- I am with you. I send him and his agent a letter saying either he lives up to his contract- and there must be a 'detrimental clause' or something similar- or he is going to face hard ball.

And, one more infraction - I follow him with a private eye- I suspend his fat butt, and warn him next one is final. And then I hope Stern can back me up.
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6/14/2008  2:11 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:

Where are those morons who said it couldn't hurt to keep him another year and his trade value wouldn't go lower. Yup, it's all about being a 20 year old 20-10 center.

Im glad you're not running the country because countries with a rogue outlook would handle you like a chump willing to compromise. You don't give in to virulent behaviour/actions--you punish them.

What are you blabbering about now? Funny but it doesn't seem that anybody has punished Zach for his behavior/actions. Not the legal system, the NBA or his team.

Keeping him would be punishing the team and it's fans. Your implausible suggestion to fire him or suspend him for an extended period of time doesn't do anything to change that. Trading him does. Now do you understand the value in trading him? I doubt it.

The NFL has been firing guys for multiple actions detrimental to the league. Zach has had enough chances---put a harsh suspension in place without pay and start the termination process. Time for the NBA to step up. No need for fans to argue this subject---it's not your fault my fault or anyone else fault if a player acts like this--the person who should be punished is the player--there is no other reasonable course of action. If you let this go unscathed you are saying these actions are OK and they are not.
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6/14/2008  2:16 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm still not trading Zach with the 6th pick just to get rid of him, we need the pick.

Big fat +1 on that! This latest news is disturbing but relinquishing our pick just for the sake of getting rid of him would be even more disturbing to me.
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6/14/2008  2:21 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:

Where are those morons who said it couldn't hurt to keep him another year and his trade value wouldn't go lower. Yup, it's all about being a 20 year old 20-10 center.

Im glad you're not running the country because countries with a rogue outlook would handle you like a chump willing to compromise. You don't give in to virulent behaviour/actions--you punish them.
I'd rather get rid of him and let someone else worry about how to punish him. But how would you punish him anyway? Please don't tell me something like "bench him." You're not naive enough to think an owner is going to let a player with $50 mil left on his contract be benched, are you?

It would be very simple if I was in charge suspension for conduct detrinetal to the team and go to the league office and start the process of terminating his contract for his multiple problems over the years. Im not giving into anyone--I will dictate the policy. Im not hurting my team if I own it???!!!
We all would do suspensions if the owner would let us. (Except that the players association has too much power to allow the contract termination to happen.)
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