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6/7/2008  9:41 PM
Shows much more in-depth just how skilled he is for 6-10+ he has PG-like skills rebounding shotblcoking posting scoring mid range passing speed athletiscm--this is why he is a perfect package for the NY Knicks and an up tempo system. He brings us skill sets in almosty every category and has the all-around skill that Mike D likes with the speed and athletic ability.
Id love a player like this at 6--when was the last time we had a player like this? Never
Notice is end-to end abilities after the rebound with either a finish or nice pass. Very VERY skilled for his size. Very fluid agile with great skill level.

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6/7/2008  9:49 PM
Thanks BRIGGS! Just in time for my new Sig. too. I was already sold, but it's nice to see even more highlights to get me hyped up for the draft.

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6/7/2008  9:50 PM
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6/7/2008  9:59 PM
He looks more like a SF who can play some PF but more of a SF. He will probably end up being a SF in the NBA.

He looks about 6'9 what were his measurements?

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6/7/2008  10:05 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:

He looks more like a SF who can play some PF but more of a SF. He will probably end up being a SF in the NBA.

He looks about 6'9 what were his measurements?

He's a legit 6-10.25 in shoes. Yeah his physical makeup says SF right now, but he's so young that it's hard to know how he'll develop. Some guys are stronger than they look too. The way we'll play under D'Antoni will work in his favor, since normal conventions of positions won't be as important. D'Antoni's system is about BB players, who cares what box they're supposed to fit in. Play fast and with skill and you'll be fine. Now of course on D, he'd have trouble holding off a big strong PF, but that can be dealt with by have a team that is quicker on help D than we've been in recent years. Like GS you play smaller and force teams to deal with your team speed. It can be done even better than they did it, if Waltoni does things right over the next few years.


[Edited by - nixluva on 06-07-2008 10:16 PM]
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6/7/2008  10:12 PM
Im more concerned with bringing in players that fit this system with major talent than worrying about who I may eliminate. Elimination of players will take care of itself--right now the cogent plan is to add players who will be here for the long run and make sense for the program. People get to caught up in unrealistic expectations. Making solid move after solid move will help us quickly.
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6/7/2008  10:22 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Im more concerned with bringing in players that fit this system with major talent than worrying about who I may eliminate. Elimination of players will take care of itself--right now the cogent plan is to add players who will be here for the long run and make sense for the program. People get to caught up in unrealistic expectations. Making solid move after solid move will help us quickly.

I agree. It's not realistic to expect that a deal can be made to move out players we don't want. It may happen, but I don't want that to come at the expense of getting the best players we can for our future. Now since I expect that Mayo will be gone, I think the realistic pick for us is Randolph. He fills a need for shotblocking and more importantly he's the right kind of player for our system. At this point it's not time to make any more risky mistakes. Let's follow the old K.I.S.S. method and get a guy who can be a nice part of our future. I also like Westbrook and wouldn't be mad at that pick.

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6/8/2008  8:32 AM
Nice video. To me he's far more of a Tayshaun Prince type than a Chris Bosh type (except that he's not a good shooter). Is Josh smith a decent comp?
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6/8/2008  11:17 AM
That guy was 6'10 doing all of that???? He looked like a guard on that Youtube Vid.

I don't see how Mike D could see all the tape on this kid and not like him. He is like Marion and Daiw in one player.
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6/8/2008  11:33 AM
Posted by Anji:

That guy was 6'10 doing all of that???? He looked like a guard on that Youtube Vid.

I don't see how Mike D could see all the tape on this kid and not like him. He is like Marion and Daiw in one player.

Randolph has a little bit of Lamar Odom in him. He's not quite the shooter, but his ability to get a bound and lead a break is very impressive. He's SO YOUNG too. He's got tons of upside. We have to believe that Waltoni will be looking for a guy with size who can do things in this offense that Randolph can do. Shotblocking is another plus. The guy has a 9'-1" standing reach, which is excellent. He's a baby still and yet his skills should allow him to adapt to the NBA level quickly IMO.
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6/8/2008  11:34 AM
Posted by purple012870:

Nice video. To me he's far more of a Tayshaun Prince type than a Chris Bosh type (except that he's not a good shooter). Is Josh smith a decent comp?

He is much more of an inside player than Tayshaun Prince. To be honest he reminds me a lot of Chris Bosh at Georgia Tech. He has the ability to play a little PG yet can also go 3-4 with all of the skills ballhandling passing rebounding shotblocking 12-18 foot range speed length athletic ability in a 6-10+ package and is only 18. He has a LOT of talent for a player NO WHERE near physically mature. The one thing that did stick out in his physical was he was able to lift 185 *7 which was as much as Lopez. So I can see him putting on a hard 15 pounds and getting much stronger. He could easily have a KG type body when he is done growing. Notice how he keeps his head up with his dribble looking for the play.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-08-2008 11:38 AM]
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6/8/2008  12:07 PM
I have to say that I think our new focus will be on getting BB Players and not being stuck in old conventions of positions. Randolph looks like a very good overall BB player with room to grown. Under D'Antoni I can see this kid having a huge role and being very successful.

We have to try and open our minds a bit in terms of what this team can be. I think many of us are so conditioned to think of this team in terms of it's past glory, but that's not realistic. D'Antoni's system will require a totally new approach and i'm actually eager to see something new from this team. New and GOOD.

Randolph would add a nice dimension to what we already have. We need to start adding bigs will overall skills like he has. Now we would have Lee, Chan, Balk and A. Randolph, who can all handle the ball very well. That should open up a much better passing game and more clean breaks.
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6/8/2008  12:08 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by purple012870:

Nice video. To me he's far more of a Tayshaun Prince type than a Chris Bosh type (except that he's not a good shooter). Is Josh smith a decent comp?

He is much more of an inside player than Tayshaun Prince. To be honest he reminds me a lot of Chris Bosh at Georgia Tech. He has the ability to play a little PG yet can also go 3-4 with all of the skills ballhandling passing rebounding shotblocking 12-18 foot range speed length athletic ability in a 6-10+ package and is only 18. He has a LOT of talent for a player NO WHERE near physically mature. The one thing that did stick out in his physical was he was able to lift 185 *7 which was as much as Lopez. So I can see him putting on a hard 15 pounds and getting much stronger. He could easily have a KG type body when he is done growing. Notice how he keeps his head up with his dribble looking for the play.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-08-2008 11:38 AM]

Good call on the Bosh comparison from G-Tech. I dont think many people saw Bosh in college. He also reminds me of Odom. I saw Odom quite a bit in HS and Odom was almost as skinny. Randolph is a tremendous play maker. Dont see him as a big scorer at least not right away, but he will bea able to stuff a stat sheet: 4-5 assist, 1-2 blocks, 7-8 rebounds, 1-2 steals.....This kid is the best SF on our tema right now. Once he adds about 15 lbs of muscle, he can definitely be a PF and will give D'Antoni an extremely fast team.



[Edited by - uptown on 06-08-2008 12:45 PM]
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6/8/2008  12:21 PM
Here are his high totals

Points 29 Alabama
Rebounds 19 Vanderbilt
Assists 4 Auburn
Steals 4 Kentucky
Blocks 5 Auburn--these are all major college programs

8 rebounds or more 18 times
3 blocks or more 13 times
Double Doubles 10 times
16 points or more 14 times
Assists 3 or more 6 times
Steals 2 or more 7 times

These are very diverse and impressive stat lines for an 18 year old player playing in the SEC. And that is a huge consideration--he did this at 18 and he is not developed nearly all the way.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-08-2008 12:29 PM]
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6/8/2008  12:22 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Im more concerned with bringing in players that fit this system with major talent than worrying about who I may eliminate. Elimination of players will take care of itself--right now the cogent plan is to add players who will be here for the long run and make sense for the program. People get to caught up in unrealistic expectations. Making solid move after solid move will help us quickly.

That's very true.

Amare, Marion, Diaw, Joe Johnson, Grant Hill, Tim Thomas........... the truly talented and diverse players for Mike D were Forwards. All those players were Lottos picks. Q, Barbosa, Bell, honestly other then Nash the Guards for Phoenix were basically plug and play. The players that really were the driving force of that system to me look a lot like Randolph. I think he is the best pick.
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6/8/2008  12:43 PM
He looks awesome. In addition to being able to being able to bring the ball up, he blocks shots 2.3 per game. He is the kind of player who 5 years down the line might be the best or second best player coming out of the draft. He would be a great pick. I pray Walsh doesn't dump the sixth pick to get rid of Zach.
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6/8/2008  12:52 PM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by Anji:

That guy was 6'10 doing all of that???? He looked like a guard on that Youtube Vid.

I don't see how Mike D could see all the tape on this kid and not like him. He is like Marion and Daiw in one player.

Randolph has a little bit of Lamar Odom in him. He's not quite the shooter, but his ability to get a bound and lead a break is very impressive. He's SO YOUNG too. He's got tons of upside. We have to believe that Waltoni will be looking for a guy with size who can do things in this offense that Randolph can do. Shotblocking is another plus. The guy has a 9'-1" standing reach, which is excellent. He's a baby still and yet his skills should allow him to adapt to the NBA level quickly IMO.

Nix trust me on this one. He is more Chris Bosh than he is anything else, even has that left handed shot.

To me, he's still the guy I want at 6. I will not be disappointed if we went with Westbrook, but if we are talking matter of preference, I'm going Randolph.

Theres no doubt that Randolph is going to take a few years to mature as a player and a person for sure, but I think after 3 years or so in the league, you are looking at a very very very versatile athletic offensive and defensive presence.
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6/8/2008  2:04 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by Anji:

That guy was 6'10 doing all of that???? He looked like a guard on that Youtube Vid.

I don't see how Mike D could see all the tape on this kid and not like him. He is like Marion and Daiw in one player.

Randolph has a little bit of Lamar Odom in him. He's not quite the shooter, but his ability to get a bound and lead a break is very impressive. He's SO YOUNG too. He's got tons of upside. We have to believe that Waltoni will be looking for a guy with size who can do things in this offense that Randolph can do. Shotblocking is another plus. The guy has a 9'-1" standing reach, which is excellent. He's a baby still and yet his skills should allow him to adapt to the NBA level quickly IMO.

Nix trust me on this one. He is more Chris Bosh than he is anything else, even has that left handed shot.

To me, he's still the guy I want at 6. I will not be disappointed if we went with Westbrook, but if we are talking matter of preference, I'm going Randolph.

Theres no doubt that Randolph is going to take a few years to mature as a player and a person for sure, but I think after 3 years or so in the league, you are looking at a very very very versatile athletic offensive and defensive presence.

Perhaps some of the Bosh comparison applies, but Randolph seems far more agile and fluid. Randolph dribbling down court and weaving thru traffic like a guard doesn't remind me of Bosh at all. I think this kid is something else overall and especially in a full court uptempo system like D'Antoni's
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6/8/2008  2:08 PM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by Anji:

That guy was 6'10 doing all of that???? He looked like a guard on that Youtube Vid.

I don't see how Mike D could see all the tape on this kid and not like him. He is like Marion and Daiw in one player.

Randolph has a little bit of Lamar Odom in him. He's not quite the shooter, but his ability to get a bound and lead a break is very impressive. He's SO YOUNG too. He's got tons of upside. We have to believe that Waltoni will be looking for a guy with size who can do things in this offense that Randolph can do. Shotblocking is another plus. The guy has a 9'-1" standing reach, which is excellent. He's a baby still and yet his skills should allow him to adapt to the NBA level quickly IMO.

Nix trust me on this one. He is more Chris Bosh than he is anything else, even has that left handed shot.

To me, he's still the guy I want at 6. I will not be disappointed if we went with Westbrook, but if we are talking matter of preference, I'm going Randolph.

Theres no doubt that Randolph is going to take a few years to mature as a player and a person for sure, but I think after 3 years or so in the league, you are looking at a very very very versatile athletic offensive and defensive presence.

Perhaps some of the Bosh comparison applies, but Randolph seems far more agile and fluid. Randolph dribbling down court and weaving thru traffic like a guard doesn't remind me of Bosh at all. I think this kid is something else overall and especially in a full court uptempo system like D'Antoni's

He is a little more agile and bosh was more 4 but Bosh did play some PG his year at GT--not as fast with the ball but good handle for his size. Bosh changed quite a bit physically 2-3 years into the nba.
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6/8/2008  2:55 PM
He does appear to be more Guard ordinated then Bosh ever was..... so much so that if he was not officially measured at 6'10, I would not believe the player in that vid is that big.

His skills lead you to believe that if he is a good player in the NBA, he will be in his own category.
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