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5/30/2008  7:37 AM
May 30, 2008 -- ORLANDO, Fla. - Donnie Walsh finally arrived at the pre-draft camp here yesterday and officially began the task of gauging the trade value of the Knicks' sixth pick in the June 26 draft.

The more the Knicks president talked, the more he sounded as if he would rather wheel and deal.

"We're going to look at every option," Walsh said in a state-of-the-Knicks Address at Disney's Wide World of Sports. "Trade it outright for a very good NBA player. Trade back for multiple picks. Trade up. There's a lot of different things you do. You explore everything."

At six, Walsh could have a shot at point guard Jerryd Bayless, shooting guard Eric Gordon or 6-foot-10 small forwards Anthony Randolph and the Italian Stallion Danilo Gallinari. Even O.J. Mayo, who said yesterday he wants to play point guard in the NBA, could slip to six, though it seems unlikely. If he trades back, Walsh could land the purest point guard left after Derrick Rose - D.J. Augustin.

Asked if the pick has trade value in a draft in which players 3 through 12 are considered comparable, Walsh pointed to the Milk House where dozens of team executives and coaches had gathered and said, "I'll find out. We'll explore all of it."

Walsh's willingness to deal the pick underscores his belief the draft is not deep after the top two picks of Derrick Rose and Michael Beasley and may not contain a bonafide point-guard-of-the-future.

"I'm not sure (it's deep)," Walsh said. "We're dealing with a lot of young players, which makes it difficult. There are guys who are going to be great players and not projected to be great players right now. Our job is to pick that guy."

Walsh will do the evaluation without making another front-office hire. He refuted speculation he's looking to hire a general manager before the draft, going with senior vice president Glen Grunwald. The Knicks have 13 scouts in Orlando and Walsh will conduct meetings with them over the weekend here to discuss the draft.

Nuggets GM Mark Warkentien, who has two years left on his pact, likely would be the leading candidate if Walsh conducts a search this summer, because of their strong relationship. Friends of the two say Warkentien considers Walsh his mentor and has long wanted to work for him.

"I haven't said I needed a new GM," Walsh said. "I know there's a lot of interest because I get phone calls. I got people in place. I'm happy with what Glen is doing."

Walsh said the Knicks could use in this draft a playmaker that makes others better and a shot blocker.

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Walsh said he would have interviewed Patrick Ewing for the head-coaching job if the search lasted longer.

Ewing spouted off Tuesday about the snub.

"It was no sign of disrespect to Patrick," Walsh said. "At that time, I wasn't interviewing anyone in the playoffs. Then around the time they got knocked out, Avery Johnson and Mike D'Antoni became available and concentrated on them. If I didn't get that kind of guy like I did, he was one of the people I would've interviewed. That's the absolute truth."


I am with Briggs as to trading for the 10 and 21 if Mayo isn't there..If he is it's harder. We trade the pick for a player it better be for someone 22 or 23 and a borderline All-Star.

The only scenario I wouldn't even consider trading the pick for is if it was JUST to get rid of a contract, a la Zach.
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5/30/2008  7:45 AM
However, I'd prefer to buy a pick in the 20's and keep the 6.
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5/30/2008  8:20 AM
We're in win now make the playoffs as an 8th seed mode or bust. It won't surprise me to see us trade the pick for someone like Vince Carter.
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5/30/2008  8:27 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:

We're in win now make the playoffs as an 8th seed mode or bust. It won't surprise me to see us trade the pick for someone like Vince Carter.

There is no way I even come close to really believing that is even a remote possibility.


I'd do the 6 for Boozer, although I am not sure he'll fit if D'Antoni is going to run here. The 6 for Iggy would is another I would do. Marvin Williams, Josh Smith, Rudy Gay, Josh Howard, David West are guys I have in mind.
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5/30/2008  8:32 AM
Walsh said the Knicks could use in this draft a playmaker that makes others better and a shot blocker.

makes sense to trade down if you think you can get D.J. Augustin and a possible big who can block shots. Those are our two greatest needs.
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5/30/2008  8:49 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:

We're in win now make the playoffs as an 8th seed mode or bust. It won't surprise me to see us trade the pick for someone like Vince Carter.

Not even Isiah would do that.
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5/30/2008  10:43 AM
I would be perfectly happy if they used it simply to dump Zach. He's the biggest albatross on this team, on the court and on the salary cap. Isiah screwed up this roster so badly that sacrifices will have to be made just to clean it up. Walsh has to be proactive and can't just sit back.
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5/30/2008  10:52 AM
Posted by islesfan:

I would be perfectly happy if they used it simply to dump Zach. He's the biggest albatross on this team, on the court and on the salary cap. Isiah screwed up this roster so badly that sacrifices will have to be made just to clean it up. Walsh has to be proactive and can't just sit back.

That is just CRAZY! You would give up Mayo, Bayless, Gordon, or whoever JUST to get rid of Zach? Panicking and wanting change NOW instead of biding our time is just what we don't need to do. We have 2 years before JamesWadeAnthony derby.

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5/30/2008  11:01 AM
I would love to see the knicks trade the pick along with a player we no longer need(Lee) for ron artest and sac-towns 13 pick.

Starting lineup Marbury Crawford in backcourt.

Artest Chandler and Randolph.

Curry comes off the bench to play a half court game part time unless he takes his diet pills and comes in shape.
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5/30/2008  11:22 AM
Posted by playa2:

I would love to see the knicks trade the pick along with a player we no longer need(Lee) for ron artest and sac-towns 13 pick.

Starting lineup Marbury Crawford in backcourt.

Artest Chandler and Randolph.

Curry comes off the bench to play a half court game part time unless he takes his diet pills and comes in shape.

No thanks.
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5/30/2008  11:28 AM
Randolph and Steph have to be off the team and if the 6th pick is what it takes so be it. I dont see anyone at 6 being a big time starter in the league and getting you 17 points a game or a double/double.
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5/30/2008  11:31 AM
Posted by King1:

Randolph and Steph have to be off the team and if the 6th pick is what it takes so be it. I dont see anyone at 6 being a big time starter in the league and getting you 17 points a game or a double/double.

Steph will be off the team at the end of the year. You don't need to do anything with him. Tell him to sit home.
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5/30/2008  11:37 AM
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by islesfan:

I would be perfectly happy if they used it simply to dump Zach. He's the biggest albatross on this team, on the court and on the salary cap. Isiah screwed up this roster so badly that sacrifices will have to be made just to clean it up. Walsh has to be proactive and can't just sit back.

That is just CRAZY! You would give up Mayo, Bayless, Gordon, or whoever JUST to get rid of Zach? Panicking and wanting change NOW instead of biding our time is just what we don't need to do. We have 2 years before JamesWadeAnthony derby.

Mayo will be gone, Bayless is a shoot first tweener PG and Gordon is a 6'3 SG. It's not panicking, it's planning and rebuilding. Yeah it sucks that we have to seriously consider these options but with the roster that Isiah put together, we have no choice if we want to purge it of bad contracts and terrible fits.
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5/30/2008  11:47 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by islesfan:

I would be perfectly happy if they used it simply to dump Zach. He's the biggest albatross on this team, on the court and on the salary cap. Isiah screwed up this roster so badly that sacrifices will have to be made just to clean it up. Walsh has to be proactive and can't just sit back.

That is just CRAZY! You would give up Mayo, Bayless, Gordon, or whoever JUST to get rid of Zach? Panicking and wanting change NOW instead of biding our time is just what we don't need to do. We have 2 years before JamesWadeAnthony derby.

Mayo will be gone, Bayless is a shoot first tweener PG and Gordon is a 6'3 SG. It's not panicking, it's planning and rebuilding. Yeah it sucks that we have to seriously consider these options but with the roster that Isiah put together, we have no choice if we want to purge it of bad contracts and terrible fits.

I understand that, but so far 2 teams have expressed interest in Zach(Philly and Denver). Curry may be movable to teams like Miami and Toronto. I don't think it's so dire, really I don't.
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5/30/2008  11:54 AM
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by islesfan:

I would be perfectly happy if they used it simply to dump Zach. He's the biggest albatross on this team, on the court and on the salary cap. Isiah screwed up this roster so badly that sacrifices will have to be made just to clean it up. Walsh has to be proactive and can't just sit back.

That is just CRAZY! You would give up Mayo, Bayless, Gordon, or whoever JUST to get rid of Zach? Panicking and wanting change NOW instead of biding our time is just what we don't need to do. We have 2 years before JamesWadeAnthony derby.

Mayo will be gone, Bayless is a shoot first tweener PG and Gordon is a 6'3 SG. It's not panicking, it's planning and rebuilding. Yeah it sucks that we have to seriously consider these options but with the roster that Isiah put together, we have no choice if we want to purge it of bad contracts and terrible fits.

I understand that, but so far 2 teams have expressed interest in Zach(Philly and Denver). Curry may be movable to teams like Miami and Toronto. I don't think it's so dire, really I don't.

I'd prefer not to trade bad contracts, especially when they're the same length as Kenyon Martin's seems to be. I'd rather try to build up Curry's value so he opts out after next year or he'll have better trade value.

I wouldn't say dire but it's certainly onerous.
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5/30/2008  11:55 AM
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by islesfan:

I would be perfectly happy if they used it simply to dump Zach. He's the biggest albatross on this team, on the court and on the salary cap. Isiah screwed up this roster so badly that sacrifices will have to be made just to clean it up. Walsh has to be proactive and can't just sit back.

That is just CRAZY! You would give up Mayo, Bayless, Gordon, or whoever JUST to get rid of Zach? Panicking and wanting change NOW instead of biding our time is just what we don't need to do. We have 2 years before JamesWadeAnthony derby.

I'm with Isles on this one, Z-no has no concept of team basketball and just does his thing all the time. He's a bad team mate and team chemistry will at least be better with his omission.
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5/30/2008  12:00 PM
Posted by buddapaw:


I'm with Isles on this one

It pains you to say that doesn't it.
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5/30/2008  12:03 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by buddapaw:


I'm with Isles on this one

It pains you to say that doesn't it.

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5/30/2008  12:09 PM
Posted by buddapaw:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by islesfan:

I would be perfectly happy if they used it simply to dump Zach. He's the biggest albatross on this team, on the court and on the salary cap. Isiah screwed up this roster so badly that sacrifices will have to be made just to clean it up. Walsh has to be proactive and can't just sit back.

That is just CRAZY! You would give up Mayo, Bayless, Gordon, or whoever JUST to get rid of Zach? Panicking and wanting change NOW instead of biding our time is just what we don't need to do. We have 2 years before JamesWadeAnthony derby.

I'm with Isles on this one, Z-no has no concept of team basketball and just does his thing all the time. He's a bad team mate and team chemistry will at least be better with his omission.

I'm not saying NOT to get rid of him, but just that it's not so dire that we have to overpay someone to take him off our hands.
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5/30/2008  12:52 PM
Posted by joec32033:


I'm not saying NOT to get rid of him, but just that it's not so dire that we have to overpay someone to take him off our hands.
I agree. What is the rush? Maybe Zach has a good start to the season and becomes a bit more marketable. Why do we need to purge him NOW? Seems like a panic move. Buy low sell high. Zach's value cant be any lower.

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