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5/23/2008  5:14 PM
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/52669/20080523/pritchard_looking_to_trade_13th_pick/

Pritchard Looking To Trade 13th Pick
May 23, 2008 - 12:31 pm
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Blazers general manager Kevin Pritchard is reportedly looking to trade the thirteenth pick in this June's NBA Draft, according to HoopsWorld.

"I think we need more good players," said Pritchard.

"We've got Greg (Oden) and Rudy (Fernandez) coming in next year, we hope, and we're going to have to be active. That's never been something we've been shy to do and we're going to have to do that," he said of trading the pick.

However, that doesn't mean Portland won't decide to use the pick to take a rookie as the draft approaches.

"If it's the right player," Pritchard said about adding a young player to the Blazers mix. "If Brandon Roy is out there again, I think I would take him again."
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5/23/2008  5:16 PM
Ok, so they are looking for players that can come in and help now. In Purple's Lee to Portland trade, myself and SupremeCommander were both looking to get Sergio Rodriquez, maybe we can get Sergio + pick 13 for Lee?
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5/23/2008  5:43 PM
Any chance they might want Randolph back? You know, absence makes the heart grow fonder. I'm sure they missed what he brings to the table and would be happy to take him back.
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5/23/2008  5:44 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Ok, so they are looking for players that can come in and help now. In Purple's Lee to Portland trade, myself and SupremeCommander were both looking to get Sergio Rodriquez, maybe we can get Sergio + pick 13 for Lee?

i think i would do that trade if Westbrook or Randolph were on the board.
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5/23/2008  5:52 PM
I would consider trading Lee for this pick if it were available. There is more than 1 train of thought--do I want to pay Lee 50+MM and consequently take myself out of fA 3 years from now.
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5/23/2008  5:59 PM
I hate to trade Lee, but if we can get a PG like Sergio Rodriguez back in return, he's a guy that can run D'Antoni's system just the way D'Antoni wants it. On top of that, we would get pick #13 which should yield us one of the following: Randolph, Westbrook, McGee, Love, Arthur, etc. and I think you have to make that trade.
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5/23/2008  6:10 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I hate to trade Lee, but if we can get a PG like Sergio Rodriguez back in return, he's a guy that can run D'Antoni's system just the way D'Antoni wants it. On top of that, we would get pick #13 which should yield us one of the following: Randolph, Westbrook, McGee, Love, Arthur, etc. and I think you have to make that trade.

not to mention guys like Joe Alexander or CDR or Brandon Rush. there will be some quality on the board at 13.

if the knicks are really looking to get under the cap, i think Lee gets traded this summer. i'd rather trade him for another pick so we can get some cheap, hungry talent in here than use him to get rid of Curry or something.
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5/23/2008  6:25 PM
If the Knicks could get Rodriguez and the 13th for Lee it is worth considering. It would then be alot easier to package Zach and the 6 pick if that is the way Walsh is going.
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5/23/2008  6:26 PM
I see CDR as rip hamilton part two. anyone else agree?
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5/23/2008  6:29 PM
Could we trade the 13th pick with Zach's contract after acquiring it? I know that there is a length of time before players can be traded.
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5/23/2008  6:48 PM
Posted by Caseloads:

I see CDR as rip hamilton part two. anyone else agree?

CDR has the potential to be good but let's remember one thing, very few players are afforded to run off as many picks as Rip does. Rip is very good at what he does, but it takes a coach whose willing to run his offense that way.

And to Rips credit, it takes a hell of a lot of energy to run as much as he does and still play defense. So while I agree with you that CDR is similar to Rip in size and stature, as well as shooting, I have no idea if he can be as effective as Rip is because alot of Rips success is a tribute Billups, Sheed, Prince setting pick after pick to get him open.
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5/23/2008  6:50 PM
Posted by CrushAlot:

Could we trade the 13th pick with Zach's contract after acquiring it? I know that there is a length of time before players can be traded.

It's 90 days and that passed a loooooong time ago.

It'd certainly be interesting if we could package pick 13 with Zach instead of pick 6, but I guess we'll see.

I think the best part of this news is that atleast we know theres going to be plenty of options for us and with Walsh at the helm, I trust whatever he does. Trade or no trades.
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5/23/2008  7:09 PM
I was talking about the pick. I am pretty sure that you can acquire and trade picks without that 90 days but I am not positive.
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5/23/2008  7:10 PM
Posted by CrushAlot:

I was talking about the pick. I am pretty sure that you can acquire and trade picks without that 90 days but I am not positive.

Oh I see what you're saying, my bad.

Yeah, I don't think there are any time restrictions on picks, once you trade for one, you can trade it immediately.
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5/23/2008  7:19 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I hate to trade Lee, but if we can get a PG like Sergio Rodriguez back in return, he's a guy that can run D'Antoni's system just the way D'Antoni wants it. On top of that, we would get pick #13 which should yield us one of the following: Randolph, Westbrook, McGee, Love, Arthur, etc. and I think you have to make that trade.

Was thinking about this before, I just don't know if Portland would do it because they may not elect to bring Steve Blake back and you'd think Sergio Rodriguez would be the next in line to run that team, ahead of Jarrett Jack (who they do like), although it's unclear what the organization really thinks of him. He fell out of favor constantly with Nate McMillan last season. At one point he even lost his reserve role altogether to 4th sting PG Taurean Green before finally being re-inserted back into the rotation... You know what - they could use David Lee even with Oden coming back. They were a pretty bad rebounding team last year. Aldridge averaged only something like 7.5 reb. per game for the club lead and they found out first hand that Channing Frye's not going to contribute much esp. in the rebounding dept. Bringing in a proven 10 reb. a night guy who's still young goes a long way in suring up a major weakness in Portland. I'd explore this if I were the Knicks. Only thing is, you think JaVale McGee will be there at 13? Draftexpress and Hoopshype have this kid going at around #20. There's no way McGee will still be there at 20, telling you right now. But I tell you this, if we ever pulled this off I might want to go in a different direction now with our own pick - with Sergio Rodriguez here, I wouldn't be as interested in Bayless. Sergio Rodriguez can play ball, he's young, exciting and he can run a team. My plan would have to change - maybe now I don't move up and stand pat at #6 and go after a guy like Westbrook or with Lee now gone maybe an Anthony Randolph. Interesting... I'm in. Get Pritchard on the phone!

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Posted by Finestrg:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I hate to trade Lee, but if we can get a PG like Sergio Rodriguez back in return, he's a guy that can run D'Antoni's system just the way D'Antoni wants it. On top of that, we would get pick #13 which should yield us one of the following: Randolph, Westbrook, McGee, Love, Arthur, etc. and I think you have to make that trade.

Was thinking about this before, I just don't know if Portland would do it because they may not elect to bring Steve Blake back and you'd think Sergio Rodriguez would be the next in line to run that team, ahead of Jarrett Jack (who they do like), although it's unclear what the organization really thinks of him. He fell out of favor constantly with Nate McMillan last season. At one point he even lost his reserve role altogether to 4th sting PG Taurean Green before finally being re-inserted back into the rotation... You know what they could use David Lee even with Oden coming back. They were a pretty bad rebounding team last year. Aldridge averaged only something like 7.5 reb. per game for the club lead and they found out first hand that Channing Frye's not going to contribute much esp. in the rebounding dept. Bringing in a proven 10 reb. a night guy who still young goes a long way in suring up a major weakness in Portland. I'd explore this if I were the Knicks. Only thing is, you think JaVale McGee will be there at 13? Draftexpress and Hoopshype have this kid going at around #20. There's no way McGee will still be there at 20, telling you right now. But I tell you this, is we ever pulled this off I might want to go in a different direction now with our own pick - with Sergio Rodriguez here, I wouldn't be as interested in Bayless. Sergio Rodriguez can play ball, he's young, exciting and he can run a team. My plan would have to change - maybe now I don't move up and stand pat at #6 and go after a guy like Westbrook or a Anthony Randolph. Interesting... I'm in. Get Pritchard on the phone!

This is all very interesting. One thing I will note about the whole Portland PG issue. I wouldn't be surprised to see them let Blake go, but I don't think that will hinder them from trading Sergio, especially since they have Rudy Fernandez coming this year, who can play both guard possitons, so I don't think Nate would have a problem having him back up Jack, especially with Roy and Martell Webster already manning the SG slot.

I agree about McGee, he won't be there at 20, but I think theres a chance he's there at 13 and you're right if we get Sergio, we don't need to draft a PG since I think Sergio fits like a glove as a PG for D'Antoni. We could go with Mayo, Westbrook, Randolph at 6 and then hope someone falls at 13 maybe McGee? or we can trade one of those picks along with Zach.

This trade would open up a whole range of possibilities for us, I think it's a trade we have to make. Sorry David
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5/23/2008  7:35 PM
I'm down to say bye-bye to Lee in this deal, but they have aldridge and odom and frye. If they thought Lee was worth trading sergio and #13.........cha-ching!
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5/23/2008  7:36 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Caseloads:

I see CDR as rip hamilton part two. anyone else agree?

CDR has the potential to be good but let's remember one thing, very few players are afforded to run off as many picks as Rip does. Rip is very good at what he does, but it takes a coach whose willing to run his offense that way.

And to Rips credit, it takes a hell of a lot of energy to run as much as he does and still play defense. So while I agree with you that CDR is similar to Rip in size and stature, as well as shooting, I have no idea if he can be as effective as Rip is because alot of Rips success is a tribute Billups, Sheed, Prince setting pick after pick to get him open.

I think CDR plays like manu
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5/23/2008  7:49 PM
why are we afraid to pay Lee money? He's a good player. Who cares.
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5/23/2008  8:00 PM
Posted by nyballer:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Caseloads:

I see CDR as rip hamilton part two. anyone else agree?

CDR has the potential to be good but let's remember one thing, very few players are afforded to run off as many picks as Rip does. Rip is very good at what he does, but it takes a coach whose willing to run his offense that way.

And to Rips credit, it takes a hell of a lot of energy to run as much as he does and still play defense. So while I agree with you that CDR is similar to Rip in size and stature, as well as shooting, I have no idea if he can be as effective as Rip is because alot of Rips success is a tribute Billups, Sheed, Prince setting pick after pick to get him open.

I think CDR plays like manu

i like him, but i have to say he reminds more of lamond murray than any of the similarities i've heard here so far.
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