Rumors flying that Mullin wants to unload the contract so he can lock up Biedrins, Ellis etc. He has 2 years remaining, so it doesn't get in the way of leBron. Your thoughts about a deal like this:

Marbury (they may feel like he can give them 1 good year, but more importantly, he saves them 1 year contractually vs. Baron) + # 6 pick

for

Baron + # 14 pick

Then take McGee or even Gallinari at 14. Why would Gallinari drop? He could be less than available for all teams for workouts except the Knicks or even suggest he'll only excercise his "out" clause if the Knicks take him.

How many years are on Baron's contract? How much is he owed?

so he'd come off for '10 season? not the worst deal considering he'd be perfect as a running point guard who can jack up threes.

There are reports from the Bay area that Mullin is very concerned about signing Ellis & Biedrins & that Baron's contract might stand in the way. Mullin may determine that 16mm saved (towards Ellis, Biedrins) plus maybe landing Mayo or Gordon or whatever makes this work.

If they would do this Baron deal I would sign off on it......the difference between the #6 and #14 is not much. Eric gordon, jordan and some other guys that the Knicks won't take will go between here.....the Knicks still will have a shot at Javale, joel, dj augustine, cdr, etc.....the talent pool doesn't drop off.

Baron doesn't kill 2010. He comes of the books just in time. Maybe the Warriors take back a group of contracts instead of Marbs....

Anyway, baron is a superstar in this league and his yoyo dribbling ways will be perfect in d'antoni's system. He's not a ***** like Marbs and he actually cares about his nba legacy. I'm quite sure he knows he would become immortal if he became part of a big ny turn around so he would come here ready to play.

Knicks still have the same issues with zeddy and the small fwd but hopefully that can be addressed also if this deal were to actually have legs and go down.

Posted by djsunyc:

baron can opt out this summer.

probably can't deal for him unless you give him an extension.

Who has money to sign him? Philly? Sign and trade for andre miller? Maybe....golden state would have to be down with that. They could use andre miller in a deal to get a resigned elton brand if they got baron. The clips need a point and miller is a decent one.

Does the clipps have cap room? Who has cap room besides philly?

They should be able to get that trade done as an even swap. I think swapping picks or, God forbid, giving away the #6 pick would be an Isiah dropping his pants and bending over trade.

Davis was benched in their last playoff game by Don Nelson and it can't be a happy situation. You're giving them a player who could excel for 1 year in their system as a pending free agent, a ton of salary cap space to re-sign their important pieces and they're getting rid of a headache and controversy that could hurt their team all next year. I think that's enough and trading picks would be overkill.

I agree that we shouldn't need to swap picks. Marbs for Davis - take it or leave it.

Posted by TMS:

HELL NO! give up cap space AND the higher lottery pick for the most overrated G in the NBA? i don't think so.

The most overrated? I don't think they rate him high enough. Nobody talks about Baron unless he is making an awesome play. He's a good point guard. Probably best in the east especially with D'antoni runnin things.

This is a rebuild.......2010 won't be effected by Baron. Knicks could still be a player in Redd......maybe Mike Miller. Why not? Who's to say Lebron is coming? Its good to be a player in that sweepstakes but if we don't get Lebron the same way we didn't get Rose or Beasley.......we look like *******s. Wasting years for someone to save us.

A team with possibly Baron, redd, craw, lee and maybe curry should compete. Redd had a legit beef with the Bucks cuz he was their best option. Bogut hasn't emerged and Yi was somewhat of a bust.......evidence for that is Charlies minutes. They aren't trying to win.....they want faces. They want certain guys to sucseed. No way you phase out Redd to force Bogut to be something he probably will never be.

Anyway, with Baron, craw, redd and lee.....the Knicks again don't play old Knick defense but they should be able to compete. Baron takes the rock out of Craws hands and then you allow him to play within an offense instead of being the offense. Redd is a target also. That's something the Knicks never have had. David Lee would be free to just do his thing.....Curry would be the primary post option but you can't expect him to be shaq so you gotta take him out of that role and make him a trailer and a pick man. Basically a 4th option.

This could work.

Btw talking about Matt Caroll @ this point is nuts. What is he gonna do? Relegate Craw to the bench only for that idea to be shelved by december because he sucks? He doesn't play the 3 so that conversation is over.

Posted by TMS:

HELL NO! give up cap space AND the higher lottery pick for the most overrated G in the NBA? i don't think so.

Baron easily won 7-8 games for G.S., this year, by HIMSELF.

that's nice.