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BRIGGS
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5/19/2008  6:41 PM
for CV and Ramon Sessions
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5/19/2008  7:13 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

for CV and Ramon Sessions

I wonder what I think of this? Do I need to say it?

Yes I do!

I love Charlie Villanueva!!!

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5/19/2008  7:18 PM
Ugh, Charlie is Tim Thomas part 2.
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5/19/2008  7:21 PM
if you get rid of Lee you either do it for a draft pick or to get rid of a big contract
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5/19/2008  7:32 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Ugh, Charlie is Tim Thomas part 2.

Get off it man!!!!

Nah serious man. He is not Tim Thomas. He wants to dominate. You gotta just check his box scores to see it. For some reason the Bucks were trying to trash his career, then Yi hit the wall and bang all of a sudden he gets ill!!!

If the Knicks can get Charlie we must do it. David Lee can go!!! Charlie is tailor made for an uptempo set. D'antoni would make him a star. Mark those words. If there was a time to get him it's now. David for Charile!!!! do it now!!!!!
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5/19/2008  7:33 PM
Posted by blueNorange:

if you get rid of Lee you either do it for a draft pick or to get rid of a big contract

Whatever dude......just as long as we get charlie!!!
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5/19/2008  7:40 PM
I really dont think Charlie will be better than David Lee but i'm quite sure Mike D'antoni would cosign this move lol
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5/19/2008  9:06 PM
Posted by Elite:

I really dont think Charlie will be better than David Lee but i'm quite sure Mike D'antoni would cosign this move lol

He would. Charlie can handle the rock and pass. He can hit threes and still get 8 rebs and up.....he can play 3 positions if need be. Dude plays defense too so don't even go there on some chelsea diva ****.

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5/19/2008  9:23 PM
I am sensing some Charlie man-crush going on here.
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5/19/2008  9:38 PM
Eny.. the way you're talkin about Charlie, I sense theres been some nights of "cheeto eating" and watching some Bucks games?

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5/19/2008  10:08 PM
not interested... would rather target a PG in the draft & hold onto D Lee.
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5/19/2008  10:32 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Eny.. the way you're talkin about Charlie, I sense theres been some nights of "cheeto eating" and watching some Bucks games?


And you know this!

The guy is a potential 20/8/3/2 guy with 35-38% on 3pters. He needs starters minutes. He was traded for TJ ford. The guy is good. The Bucks for some reason have something against him, I'm telling you! Every single time they are forced to play him starters minutes he kicks ass. He's not no ***** ass Tim Thomas.

If it made sense I would try to get Charlie and Gadzuric. Gadzuric needs to be set loose on an uptempo team. His contract has 3 years left @ jared jefferies money though.

Still there is this whole Mike Redd rumors going on. Maybe the Knicks can get him too. Its a lateral trade salary and contracts wise but both sides actually upgrade personel that actually fit what their new coaches like to do.

I been toying with ideas, but like I said it would be all lateral cap wise. Its an option the Knicks should look into. Maybe they trade simmons, gadzuric and charlie for zach and someone else.
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5/19/2008  10:32 PM
Posted by TMS:

not interested... would rather target a PG in the draft & hold onto D Lee.

Sessions is a PG
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5/19/2008  10:34 PM
I'd like to see that trade, but not because of Charlie. Charlie's a jack of all trades, but master of none. He does a lot of things, but he doesn't do any of them very well.
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5/19/2008  10:53 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TMS:

not interested... would rather target a PG in the draft & hold onto D Lee.

Sessions is a PG

yes, i know he is, but i'd rather draft one & hold onto Lee.
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5/19/2008  11:24 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TMS:

not interested... would rather target a PG in the draft & hold onto D Lee.

Sessions is a PG

yes, i know he is, but i'd rather draft one & hold onto Lee.

Knicks can still keep Lee. Charlie is damn good though. Knicks could get away with Charlie @ the 3 cuz the dude can shoot. 4 man rotating the 3 and 4 spots: Lee, charlie, jared, and wilson. That could work well cuz they all can handle if need be and they all can get out and run.

I think I wet myself.
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5/19/2008  11:29 PM
Posted by martin:

I am sensing some Charlie man-crush going on here.

You say "man-crush," I say "full-fledged-stalking."

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I am no CV fan, but I'd definitely do that trade.

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5/19/2008  11:34 PM
Nice find with Ramon Sessions Briggs.

The kid started in the final 7 games and averaged 13pts, 5.5rebs, 13assist. His last 2 games he put up 20pts 24assist & 25pts 14assist. He is also 6'3.

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NBA Comparison: Jarrett Jack
Strengths: A true floor general with a great size and speed combination … A solid athlete who is able to use his size well to defend and pass over smaller opponents … His vision and ball handling ability are both excellent … Does a solid job of setting up teammates for baskets … Understands the position well and plays to his strengths … Heady. Never seems to rush things or try to do too much … Has a great attitude and continues to improve … Improved considerably shooting and scoring in his junior season, and should look to improve upon that production in his senior year … Showed the ability to step up and carry the team in big games, against Gonzaga for instance when Fazekas fouled out, the team rallied around Sessions for a big victory …

Weaknesses: As a freshman and sophomore he rarely shot and struggled to put points up. He lacked the confidence and assertiveness to be much of a factor offensively but ran the show and has steadily improved in that area … He still must improve his consistency and shooting from the perimeter … Though his numbers were solid, he didn’t press the action mush scoring wise, some of which may have had to do with All America post Nick Fazekas’ presence inside … Playing at Nevada, there are still some question about his ability to play against top level competition … Very solid in all areas but doesn’t stand out considerably in any area: very steady though unspectacular … Still prone to streakiness shooting, as his three two point games at the end of the year can attest … Not a tremendous defender, should gather more steals considering his quickness ...

If Charlie V was a better rebounder I would like him more as a player. He should be a guy that gets 10-12rebs per game. There is no reason why he should put up the same stat line as Lamar Odom.
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5/19/2008  11:43 PM
we were discussing Sessions just the other day in another thread in a similar trade idea for D Lee... the kid had a nice rookie season & he seems to have the tools to be a good PG, but i don't see the point in trading for him when you can draft a PG w/the lottery pick (unless we get lucky & land Beaseley)
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5/20/2008  12:12 AM
Whoa......that ramon sessions!?!? It didn't even dawm on me that that was him. Oh yeah baby, David and Balkman for Charlie and sessions all day....that's a lopsided trade in the Knicks favor.

24 assists? He was amazing that game and down the stretch. Yo man make it happen. Sessions is what the Knicks need. Cheap diamond in the rough. Word to the mutha.
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