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EnySpree
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5/18/2008  5:45 PM
I was just looking at the roster.....The Knicks still have some good talent.

The question is: why can't they win?

Answer is: Isiah!

Isiah never thought to build around the coach.....he never thought to pick a coach that at least had his same vision........and when things seemed to be going good he would make a bone head trade to ruin whatever momentum the Knicks had as a team.

That's dun.......

Yeah so without trades, the Knicks have an uptempo team. They always did. The Knicks always seem to win and have great comebacks during games where the pace is frantic and guys like Nate, craw, balkman, and david lee are going wild.

So what's to say the Knicks can't just stay put?

1. Start Marbs and Craw and have them run plays full court . 7 second shot rule....but running an actual play like Dallas, Pheonix and Golden state from the time the ball is inbounded.

2. Set Lee, balkman and Nate free on that ass off the bench. Same ****, set plays right off an inbounds, just 2,3 steps faster. 7 second shots. Those guys don't get tired. Just let them go crazy.

3. Start Wilson Chandler......Q can give what he can but he should have to battle Wilson for minutes.

4. Jared is the backup power fwd

Nobody else needs a role. Let that play out in D'antoni's style and then make changes accordingly.

What you think of that?
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5/18/2008  5:56 PM
Eny, I find your post interesting. I'm not sure I agree, though. When I look at the Knicks roster, I think the Knicks have one of the worst lineups, talent-wise, in the entire NBA. The only starting quality players on the team are Zach, Crawford and Lee. Clearly, that trio is behind the top three on most other teams in the NBA. Our youth hasn't been particulary impressive, either. I think Isiah has shown a history of taking very athletic players with limited basketball abilities. So, when they first come into the league, they look good. However, they all peak early, so there's no high ceiling. I think the roster needs major adjustments.

Also, saying that you like the Knicks roster is kind of saying that you support Isiah's GMing, which I consider one of the worst GMing jobs in the history of the NBA.

[Edited by - Solace on May 18 2008 5:57 PM]
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5/18/2008  6:25 PM
Solace - its not so much that I like the roster. Its just the group of productive guys that we do have, and actually played parts in some wins or comebacks.....those guys actually are uptempo players. D'antoni will be the first coach that actually fits that style to a "T". They aren't an all world group but they can fit D'antoni's style.

It wouldn't be a tragedy if Donnie made a minor tweak in this off-season and let the season begin with basically the same guys. Evaluations can be made imediately to improve what they are trying to do.

That wouldn't be a tragedy right?

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5/18/2008  6:48 PM
Posted by Solace:

Eny, I find your post interesting. I'm not sure I agree, though. When I look at the Knicks roster, I think the Knicks have one of the worst lineups, talent-wise, in the entire NBA. The only starting quality players on the team are Zach, Crawford and Lee. Clearly, that trio is behind the top three on most other teams in the NBA. Our youth hasn't been particulary impressive, either. I think Isiah has shown a history of taking very athletic players with limited basketball abilities. So, when they first come into the league, they look good. However, they all peak early, so there's no high ceiling. I think the roster needs major adjustments.

Also, saying that you like the Knicks roster is kind of saying that you support Isiah's GMing, which I consider one of the worst GMing jobs in the history of the NBA.

[Edited by - Solace on May 18 2008 5:57 PM]

I don't think any of those 3 are NBA starters. They're all limited players who should be 6th men (or 7th man in Jamal's case).
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Posted by EnySpree:

Solace - its not so much that I like the roster. Its just the group of productive guys that we do have, and actually played parts in some wins or comebacks.....those guys actually are uptempo players. D'antoni will be the first coach that actually fits that style to a "T". They aren't an all world group but they can fit D'antoni's style.

It wouldn't be a tragedy if Donnie made a minor tweak in this off-season and let the season begin with basically the same guys. Evaluations can be made imediately to improve what they are trying to do.

That wouldn't be a tragedy right?

It wouldn't be a tragedy but mainly because we should be looking to tank.

Regarding Marbury, he can't run an offense in 24 seconds, forget about 7. You're looking at some bad shots if the SSOL rule is implemented with our personnel. And Crawford's shot selection may even get worse. Eddy's 2.5 boards a game and inability to deliver an outlet pass don't help matters either. Lee and Balkman also can't shoot and, at the end of the day, I don't think D'Antoni can run effectively with our current group. Which is absolutely how Walsh should keep it next year so we can nab one more top pick.

That said this might be an entertaining lineup next year:

Randolph
Lee
Chandler
Balkman
Crawford

Of course, they'd have to play zone on every possession.
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5/18/2008  7:06 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

I was just looking at the roster.....The Knicks still have some good talent.

The question is: why can't they win?

Answer is: Isiah!

I thought they could be better, with another coach, etc., but I never thought they'd win it all.
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5/18/2008  8:41 PM
Shot selection. That's why we suck.

It shouldn't be Crawfords decision to shoot when he wants to. That's how we been playing. The "offense" should be designed to get Craw in a position to make shots that the whole team knows he can make. Craw is nice off the dribble, so he should be put it a position where he is catching the ball on the move where he can make his moves giving the entire team options.

For example, Derrick Rose in Memphis.....Calipari has this play that they can run at anytime where somehow rose gets a quick dart towrds the basket, usually right up the middle. Half the time the ball is gone in one dribble right into the hands of Dorsey or Dozier for the alley oop. How many times do they run that? That is a set play. Its not cuz Rose is so good or smart that he can make it work 3-5 times a game...that's by design. Rose can make that play in his sleep and Calipari made it so they can get that off almost at will. That's what I'm talking about. That's just college.

Knicks haven't had that type of coaching since Lenny Wilkins. Lenny designed plays to get Nazr Mohammed alley oops too. Marbs played his best ball during this time. It was easier. The team then was still mediocre but there was something there to build. So Lenny gets fired? Why? To get the team to play defense? We all know now it was Isiahs fault cuz he should have gotten the right set of players to do it.

Anyway, we can do it all the right way now. Knicks need a product before they can talk about a finished one. Hopefully Donnie keeps his word about 2010. At the same time, D'antoni can display a style and stick to it. Tweaks......08/09 season, tweaks....09/10 season.....in 2 season the Knicks should be ripe.
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5/18/2008  8:54 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Shot selection. That's why we suck.

It shouldn't be Crawfords decision to shoot when he wants to. That's how we been playing. The "offense" should be designed to get Craw in a position to make shots that the whole team knows he can make. Craw is nice off the dribble, so he should be put it a position where he is catching the ball on the move where he can make his moves giving the entire team options.

For example, Derrick Rose in Memphis.....Calipari has this play that they can run at anytime where somehow rose gets a quick dart towrds the basket, usually right up the middle. Half the time the ball is gone in one dribble right into the hands of Dorsey or Dozier for the alley oop. How many times do they run that? That is a set play. Its not cuz Rose is so good or smart that he can make it work 3-5 times a game...that's by design. Rose can make that play in his sleep and Calipari made it so they can get that off almost at will. That's what I'm talking about. That's just college.

Knicks haven't had that type of coaching since Lenny Wilkins. Lenny designed plays to get Nazr Mohammed alley oops too. Marbs played his best ball during this time. It was easier. The team then was still mediocre but there was something there to build. So Lenny gets fired? Why? To get the team to play defense? We all know now it was Isiahs fault cuz he should have gotten the right set of players to do it.

Anyway, we can do it all the right way now. Knicks need a product before they can talk about a finished one. Hopefully Donnie keeps his word about 2010. At the same time, D'antoni can display a style and stick to it. Tweaks......08/09 season, tweaks....09/10 season.....in 2 season the Knicks should be ripe.

Plays are only as good as the mismatches and execution that come with the personel -- and we don't have the shooters to stretch the defense. If you throw Crawford out there with Marbs "running" the offense and ask for a shot within 7 seconds - you better brace yourself for a halfcourt hook.
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5/18/2008  10:11 PM
Codeunknown - what does mismatches have to do with a basic plan of attack? If you are just playing according to mismatches then you are playing Isiah basketball and shooting yourself in the foot.

If you want shooters to stretch the defense.....what good is that if you aren't going out there with a plan?
I'm not getting on you at all, I'm just saying.

It doesn't take specialists to run an offense. It takes good coaching and the players to conform. At the same time, you don't tell Marbs to stop doing what he does best. You have to work things for the personel you have. That's why Larry Brown failed. Larry was trying to get them to play the right way, not to win. That's bull****. Isiah is an idiot as well and Marbs is just a douche.

Dallas before they had Kidd.....they used to just run up the court with the great jason terry leading the way and have the ball in the basket before terry could even make it to the 3pt line. They run set plays right off a made basket. As soon as the ball is inbounded they start to run a full court play.

That's good coaching. That's Don Nelson basketball. That's greg pop basketball. That's d'antoni basketball. That's sam mitch basketball. That's basketball period. There is more than one way to play basketball.

The Knicks have been running up the court praying someone can make a basket or get hot for too long, Wtf.

I'm rooting for D'antoni to bring this type of ball to the knicks. Take advantage of the players here and work other players in as time goes by.

You absolutely can't force David Lee to be a jumpshooter, but he can finish....so you get him in situations where he will be available to finish. Like Marion. Marion was a finisher under D'antoni. Marion rarely had to create. He always seemed to be in a position to get a shot he can take. Amare too always seems to be floating behind and around Nash. Its all by design. You take advantage of the fact Amare and Marion and finish.

Understand fellas? I'm excited about the possibilities. I wanna see the court open up. I wanna see more than a stupid entry pass. I wanna see set plays. I wanna see guys going to their designated spots everytime and moving as one. I wanna see options not make a move, "oops that didn't work. Oh well I guess I should double clutch a prayer over 3 defenders cuz the shot clock is going down" no way. We need options.

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5/18/2008  10:15 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

I was just looking at the roster.....The Knicks still have some good talent.

The question is: why can't they win?

Answer is: Isiah!

Isiah never thought to build around the coach.....he never thought to pick a coach that at least had his same vision........and when things seemed to be going good he would make a bone head trade to ruin whatever momentum the Knicks had as a team.

That's dun.......

Yeah so without trades, the Knicks have an uptempo team. They always did. The Knicks always seem to win and have great comebacks during games where the pace is frantic and guys like Nate, craw, balkman, and david lee are going wild.

So what's to say the Knicks can't just stay put?

1. Start Marbs and Craw and have them run plays full court . 7 second shot rule....but running an actual play like Dallas, Pheonix and Golden state from the time the ball is inbounded.

2. Set Lee, balkman and Nate free on that ass off the bench. Same ****, set plays right off an inbounds, just 2,3 steps faster. 7 second shots. Those guys don't get tired. Just let them go crazy.

3. Start Wilson Chandler......Q can give what he can but he should have to battle Wilson for minutes.

4. Jared is the backup power fwd

Nobody else needs a role. Let that play out in D'antoni's style and then make changes accordingly.

What you think of that?


I think this team should never be as bad as it has been given the "talent" regardless of chemistry problems.

Coaching plays a role as much as the terrible roster does. While I think Lenny was the last decent coach we had...and that Mike is somewhat in that mold of player relations that Lenny was...I still believe the roster needs a serious overhaul for us to be a good team. Yet, I'll just debate your points instead of going down that tired old road.

1. Marbury is the far more efficient guard. Marbury is not Eric Snow. Stop asking Marbury to be Eric Snow. Let Marbury be Starbury or let him go.

2. Crawful is the inefficient guard. Why allow Crawful to handle the ball more than any player, take the most shots, make the most decisions? Return this guy to the role player he was intended to be. Ideally that would mean 25 minutes off the bench but we can't do that. Yet that does not mean you have to let him run so wild, either. Tame this guy or forever be ready to go down in flames no less than 66% of the time he plays.

3. Chandler, yeah, maybe throw him on the fire. Our SF situation has been aggravating. Q is well overweight and always nursing some injury. Balkman regressed although some of that might have been coaching. Jared is pretty bad.

4. Yeah, Jared as a backup 4 could be useful. Yet, with DAntoni, you might see him as the backup 5 to be honest.

That's pretty much how I think of that.
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5/18/2008  10:28 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Codeunknown - what does mismatches have to do with a basic plan of attack? If you are just playing according to mismatches then you are playing Isiah basketball and shooting yourself in the foot.

If you want shooters to stretch the defense.....what good is that if you aren't going out there with a plan?
I'm not getting on you at all, I'm just saying.

It doesn't take specialists to run an offense. It takes good coaching and the players to conform. At the same time, you don't tell Marbs to stop doing what he does best. You have to work things for the personel you have. That's why Larry Brown failed. Larry was trying to get them to play the right way, not to win. That's bull****. Isiah is an idiot as well and Marbs is just a douche.

Dallas before they had Kidd.....they used to just run up the court with the great jason terry leading the way and have the ball in the basket before terry could even make it to the 3pt line. They run set plays right off a made basket. As soon as the ball is inbounded they start to run a full court play.

That's good coaching. That's Don Nelson basketball. That's greg pop basketball. That's d'antoni basketball. That's sam mitch basketball. That's basketball period. There is more than one way to play basketball.

The Knicks have been running up the court praying someone can make a basket or get hot for too long, Wtf.

I'm rooting for D'antoni to bring this type of ball to the knicks. Take advantage of the players here and work other players in as time goes by.

You absolutely can't force David Lee to be a jumpshooter, but he can finish....so you get him in situations where he will be available to finish. Like Marion. Marion was a finisher under D'antoni. Marion rarely had to create. He always seemed to be in a position to get a shot he can take. Amare too always seems to be floating behind and around Nash. Its all by design. You take advantage of the fact Amare and Marion and finish.

Understand fellas? I'm excited about the possibilities. I wanna see the court open up. I wanna see more than a stupid entry pass. I wanna see set plays. I wanna see guys going to their designated spots everytime and moving as one. I wanna see options not make a move, "oops that didn't work. Oh well I guess I should double clutch a prayer over 3 defenders cuz the shot clock is going down" no way. We need options.


I read your post. I'm not sure what exactly you're saying. Mismatches are what make basketball go - they have absolutely everything to do with the plan, from GMing to coaching. And, unfortunately, it had nothing to do with "Isiah basketball" - the fact that you invoke Isiah as an agent that took advantage of mismatches makes me wonder if you've really watched what happened the past 2 years.

I'm also confused about why you think that wanting shooters is mutually exclusive with having a plan. The truth is, without shooters, the best laid plans are likely to be futile.

Whether or not it takes "specialists" to run an offense is anyone's guess depending on how you define the terms. I'll be surprised if Marbury can run much more than a basic pick and roll.
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5/19/2008  1:17 AM
Well I didn't clarify. I meant to say Isiah's idea of mismatches is how the other team plays us.....like benching Nate cuz of his height or using a certain line-up to match another team. That's what Isiah has been doing and that's basically telling the team they can't win from the get go.

Its all good to have your bigger guy post up the littler guy or your faster guy beat the slower dude.........but what does that have to do with anything? You exploit mismatches when they come but as a team what are you trying to do night in and out? What is the game plan? How will you impose your will on another team/league?

Marbury was 20/8 before he became a Knick. He's not an idiot.....ok well he is an idiot. But he is a cat....if you want a dog, you should get a dog. If you can't get a dog then make the best of things cuz you are not gonna change the cat into a dog.

Aside from getting all defense lawyer on my tail wagging rant, what do you think of going full court? Not pressing x constantly on your playstation controler whlie holding the forward button and the turbo......I'm talkin set plays full court, instant fast breaks of a make or miss. Like I said the man guys on the Knicks are all uptempo guys. Stop with the "he's so dumb he can barely run water let alone run an offense har har har".....its not about that. It's about working these guys strengths for once into a team concept to win games.

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5/19/2008  1:27 AM
I agree that the Knicks are champions, but the problem isn't Isiah.

It's Larry Brown.
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5/19/2008  2:35 AM
David Lee would be great at that, i've seen him pass the ball nicely. On outlet passes he is probably better than anyone else on the team. and with so many finishers it only seems logical to try to "have them finish" as much as possible. Marbury will suck at trying to do many things but he sure could finish at least from what i remember. Crawford on the fast break could be deadly and same with Nate. Balkman, Mardy even Jeffries would all fit very nice in the type of fast break ofense that results in a lot of dunks and layups. Zach and Eddy don't run but they can finish in half-court especially if our system would help them get better touches. It just makes sence i think.
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5/19/2008  8:00 AM
Posted by EnySpree:

Solace - its not so much that I like the roster. Its just the group of productive guys that we do have, and actually played parts in some wins or comebacks.....those guys actually are uptempo players. D'antoni will be the first coach that actually fits that style to a "T". They aren't an all world group but they can fit D'antoni's style.

It wouldn't be a tragedy if Donnie made a minor tweak in this off-season and let the season begin with basically the same guys. Evaluations can be made imediately to improve what they are trying to do.

That wouldn't be a tragedy right?

I'm fine with an evaluation period. That's not a tragedy. What is a tragedy if we make the same mistakes over and over again. Too early to make those assumptions, though, so let's see what happens.
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Eny, I find your post interesting. I'm not sure I agree, though. When I look at the Knicks roster, I think the Knicks have one of the worst lineups, talent-wise, in the entire NBA. The only starting quality players on the team are Zach, Crawford and Lee. Clearly, that trio is behind the top three on most other teams in the NBA. Our youth hasn't been particulary impressive, either. I think Isiah has shown a history of taking very athletic players with limited basketball abilities. So, when they first come into the league, they look good. However, they all peak early, so there's no high ceiling. I think the roster needs major adjustments.

Also, saying that you like the Knicks roster is kind of saying that you support Isiah's GMing, which I consider one of the worst GMing jobs in the history of the NBA.

I don't think any of those 3 are NBA starters. They're all limited players who should be 6th men (or 7th man in Jamal's case).

Well, clearly Zach is a starter, as he has been in the past. Surely, he would be a starter on some other team. Craw, I think could find a starting role on a few teams. Same for Lee. That's why they're there. Technically, though, I could certainly see a majority of the teams in the NBA that Craw and Lee would not start for. Again, this is why the talent level of our team is so poor. You could argue that Jamal is a sixth man on most teams, yet he might have been our best player last year.
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5/19/2008  10:27 AM
Posted by EnySpree:

Marbury was 20/8 before he became a Knick. He's not an idiot.....ok well he is an idiot. But he is a cat....if you want a dog, you should get a dog. If you can't get a dog then make the best of things cuz you are not gonna change the cat into a dog.

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5/19/2008  10:32 AM
We've discussed similar thoughts in the past in that most pegged this team on paper as a 45-50win team. The problem is we don't have players who buy into being this kind of winning team. The East appears to have gotten a little more competitive so at best this team still has talent to be a 40-45win team now but everything would have to go their way in order to achieve it.
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5/19/2008  10:33 AM
Outlet passes? Off a Lee rebound? Nah man that's not what I mean. I mean when off a make or miss the knicks guys just go into their sets. No random fast breaks. Like after the other team makes a shot, the inbound the ball and start the play instead of waiting to go half court then set up something. Dallas before kidd came over, Pheonix, the spurs, and golden state do this often. As a well coached team the players know where they are supposed to be. They know the game plan is to get up court cuz we are gonna answer back. So they get into their set immediately on the inbounds. I'm gonna see if I can youtube what I'm trying to say. It doesn't take a genius to play this way. What should make it easier is the fact Craw and nate are so good with a basketball. Nate is the fastest dude in the league with the ball and Craw has the best handle in the league at least for a shooting guard. It doesn't have to be a Marbury run offense. I could just be a guard run offense, where Lee, Zach, Curry, Balkman, wilson, and jared are the finishers.

Again the Knicks won't be world beaters but this time around I'm hoping the Knicks can show us a style under D'antoni. Then Donnie can plug in the dudes he feels can make this work more efficiently.
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5/19/2008  11:17 AM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by EnySpree:

Solace - its not so much that I like the roster. Its just the group of productive guys that we do have, and actually played parts in some wins or comebacks.....those guys actually are uptempo players. D'antoni will be the first coach that actually fits that style to a "T". They aren't an all world group but they can fit D'antoni's style.

It wouldn't be a tragedy if Donnie made a minor tweak in this off-season and let the season begin with basically the same guys. Evaluations can be made imediately to improve what they are trying to do.

That wouldn't be a tragedy right?

I'm fine with an evaluation period. That's not a tragedy. What is a tragedy if we make the same mistakes over and over again. Too early to make those assumptions, though, so let's see what happens.
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Posted by Solace:

Eny, I find your post interesting. I'm not sure I agree, though. When I look at the Knicks roster, I think the Knicks have one of the worst lineups, talent-wise, in the entire NBA. The only starting quality players on the team are Zach, Crawford and Lee. Clearly, that trio is behind the top three on most other teams in the NBA. Our youth hasn't been particulary impressive, either. I think Isiah has shown a history of taking very athletic players with limited basketball abilities. So, when they first come into the league, they look good. However, they all peak early, so there's no high ceiling. I think the roster needs major adjustments.

Also, saying that you like the Knicks roster is kind of saying that you support Isiah's GMing, which I consider one of the worst GMing jobs in the history of the NBA.

I don't think any of those 3 are NBA starters. They're all limited players who should be 6th men (or 7th man in Jamal's case).

Well, clearly Zach is a starter, as he has been in the past. Surely, he would be a starter on some other team. Craw, I think could find a starting role on a few teams. Same for Lee. That's why they're there. Technically, though, I could certainly see a majority of the teams in the NBA that Craw and Lee would not start for. Again, this is why the talent level of our team is so poor. You could argue that Jamal is a sixth man on most teams, yet he might have been our best player last year.
I think if Zach was viewed as starting PF, teams needing a PF would be willing to trade for him. He's overpaid badly, but lots of overpaid players are still tradeable if they truly are starting quality (which includes more than just skill set). When I say starter, I mean start on a good team, too, not start on a lottery team--Heck Eddy can do that.


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Posted by Solace:
Posted by EnySpree:

Solace - its not so much that I like the roster. Its just the group of productive guys that we do have, and actually played parts in some wins or comebacks.....those guys actually are uptempo players. D'antoni will be the first coach that actually fits that style to a "T". They aren't an all world group but they can fit D'antoni's style.

It wouldn't be a tragedy if Donnie made a minor tweak in this off-season and let the season begin with basically the same guys. Evaluations can be made imediately to improve what they are trying to do.

That wouldn't be a tragedy right?

I'm fine with an evaluation period. That's not a tragedy. What is a tragedy if we make the same mistakes over and over again. Too early to make those assumptions, though, so let's see what happens.
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Solace:

Eny, I find your post interesting. I'm not sure I agree, though. When I look at the Knicks roster, I think the Knicks have one of the worst lineups, talent-wise, in the entire NBA. The only starting quality players on the team are Zach, Crawford and Lee. Clearly, that trio is behind the top three on most other teams in the NBA. Our youth hasn't been particulary impressive, either. I think Isiah has shown a history of taking very athletic players with limited basketball abilities. So, when they first come into the league, they look good. However, they all peak early, so there's no high ceiling. I think the roster needs major adjustments.

Also, saying that you like the Knicks roster is kind of saying that you support Isiah's GMing, which I consider one of the worst GMing jobs in the history of the NBA.

I don't think any of those 3 are NBA starters. They're all limited players who should be 6th men (or 7th man in Jamal's case).

Well, clearly Zach is a starter, as he has been in the past. Surely, he would be a starter on some other team. Craw, I think could find a starting role on a few teams. Same for Lee. That's why they're there. Technically, though, I could certainly see a majority of the teams in the NBA that Craw and Lee would not start for. Again, this is why the talent level of our team is so poor. You could argue that Jamal is a sixth man on most teams, yet he might have been our best player last year.
I think if Zach was viewed as starting PF, teams needing a PF would be willing to trade for him. He's overpaid badly, but lots of overpaid players are still tradeable if they truly are starting quality (which includes more than just skill set). When I say starter, I mean start on a good team, too, not start on a lottery team--Heck Eddy can do that.


[Edited by - bonn1997 on 05-19-2008 11:18 AM]

Unfortunately, most teams are conscious of attitude and contract size. All teams except one, actually. Zach's a starting quality fourth option quality player but is getting paid like a superstar. His attitude would likely reduce his worth down below MLE level. Yet, he's getting paid more than four times that. So, no he's not tradable because of that. He is talented enough to be a starter. Too bad he's crazy.
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