Posted by arkrud:

Posted by Nalod:

"Sunt" Isiah will not be seen.

Isles, what makes you happy?

Some people are happy only when what they sad turns to be true.
Like: "I told you we will have more shootings in our town this year. And we have twice more people shoot. You see I was 100% right!!! "

Posted by Solace:

Posted by arkrud:

Posted by Nalod:

"Sunt" Isiah will not be seen.

Isles, what makes you happy?

Some people are happy only when what they sad turns to be true.
Like: "I told you we will have more shootings in our town this year. And we have twice more people shoot. You see I was 100% right!!! "

There's some truth to this. I've certainly met people that weren't happy with success unless the success was achieved 'their' way.

Posted by GKFv2:

So you're saying he wants to see the Knicks perform badly so he can be right? Or maybe he just wants what is best for the Knicks? Seriously, you can't blame the guy for being so negative. Too many people here get a hard-on for the new guy that walks in the door and too many times you get let down. I think isles approach is the best. I don't believe he minds being wrong at all if they succeed in the end.

[Edited by - gkfv2 on 05-13-2008 11:37 AM]

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by islesfan:

For those who want to watch another MSG Dog and Pony Show.

It'll be funny seeing Dolan, Mills, Walsh, D'Antoni and Isiah on the dais.

It would be the answer to the puzzle: Which 5 things don't go together?

tell me again why its a bad hire? Who did you want? Why?

I honestly don't think Isles is the guy you should be asking that question to. He's stated his reasons for wanting Mark Jackson already (whether we agree with them or not), some of the other guys that try to emulate what Isles does though are the ones who are the ones that question should be directed at.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by islesfan:

For those who want to watch another MSG Dog and Pony Show.

It'll be funny seeing Dolan, Mills, Walsh, D'Antoni and Isiah on the dais.

It would be the answer to the puzzle: Which 5 things don't go together?

tell me again why its a bad hire? Who did you want? Why?

I honestly don't think Isles is the guy you should be asking that question to. He's stated his reasons for wanting Mark Jackson already (whether we agree with them or not), some of the other guys that try to emulate what Isles does though are the ones who are the ones that question should be directed at.

I missed the thread.. so many. What wer the reasons that Mark Jackson with ZERO coaching experience would be the right person for this experience over a guy thats been coaching successfully for years now both in the NBA and Europe?

Posted by JohnWallace44:

Mike and the Mad Dog are killing the move now too.

In what other situation would someone rip on a team for hiring the best coach available?

The logic seems to be that the team is terrible, so hire a coach with no experience so that you can tank it even more.

Might as well just shut the doors on the Garden and not let anyone in for two years.

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by islesfan:

For those who want to watch another MSG Dog and Pony Show.

It'll be funny seeing Dolan, Mills, Walsh, D'Antoni and Isiah on the dais.

It would be the answer to the puzzle: Which 5 things don't go together?

tell me again why its a bad hire?D'Anotni Who did you want? Why?

D'Antoni is a bad hire because:

1) His system is a gimmicky quick fix. He doesn't care about defense or half court offense, 2 things that all championship teams have in common. It's an All-In move because if it doesn't work out with D'Antoni, you're stuck with a team built to run and gun. It'll take yet another roster turnover for the next coach, who hopefully understands that you build a team from the inside out.

2) It shows that the organization is looking to win as much as it can now, which doesn't jibe with rebuilding. The 2009 pick isn't going to be maximized. The 2008 and 2009 picks should have been the cornerstone to rebuilding this franchise. The 2008 pick has been compromised because Dolan let Isiah stay and try to save himself with meaningless late season wins. The 2009 pick is going to be compromised by the organization taking a win as much as we can now stance.

3) It tells me that Dolan, if not Isiah as well, is still very much involved in the decision making process and Walsh doesn't have the autonomy that we were told that he has.

4) It delays the rebuilding process by at least another 4 years. 2 years of 40 wins and flirting with the playoffs, a year of integrating whatever big move Walsh has planned for 2010 (if that's even the goal anymore) and a year to come to the realization that D'Antoni's "success" in Phoenix was mostly due to having a 2 time MVP PG and 2 freakishly athletic all star forwards. By then the Knicks will be the Denver Nuggets of the East. A team that wins 45-50 games a year but has no realistic chance of winning a championship. And that's the optimistic view.

I was willing to take a chance on someone like Mark Jackson. First of all, I think he's a good basketball mind and I think he knows NY and what to expect here. Secondly, I wanted the Knicks to lose as much as possible next year to maximize their 2009 pick. Letting a newbie coach learn on the job and go through growing pains isn't a bad thing. He would be able to grow along with the team. There wouldn't be a temptation for the quick fix since Jackson doesn't have a reputation to live up to. And if it didn't work, by the time the Knicks were ready to start competing, they could hire another more experienced coach without having to rebuild the roster again. In that regard, even Avery Johnson would have been a better hire. His personality might have ended his run here quickly but he would have instilled a work ethic, a defensive philosophy and taught half court offense. Fundamentals like that go a long way.


Now why do you and others think that these concerns aren't legitimate?

[Edited by - islesfan on 13-05-2008 4:28 PM]