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BRIGGS
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5/11/2008  11:51 AM
I think 1-2 in the draft is a no-brainer

I think that if we get pick 3 it will be Jerryd Bayless getting the nod over OJ Mayo. I think pick 5 6 or 7 sans Mayo or Bayless will now be Anthony Randolph[absolutely perfect big man in ths system because of speed rebounding and the ability to go inside out with a nice jumpshot.

Guys like Kevin Love Deandre Jordan and Brook Lopez will not be the type of players we draft.

Russell Westbrook will have to show he can shoot the ball to get consideration now after 5

Eric Gordon comes back into play a bit but still is undersized for the 2 guard and showed a rather rigid shot with a poor % from the *college* 3 point line.

I know he has international experience but I do not see us taking a chance on the foreign players this high in the draft ala Thabo Sefo etc.. Boson Nachbar Skita Pecherov from washington Pietrus Carbakapa the disaster with Vazquez---too many foreign players haven't shown enough from 2-3 spots countries except for the three bigs Gasol Ming and Dirk when taken so high in the draft.
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5/11/2008  12:55 PM
With this move you think there is a chance the KNicks might buy lower first round picks? Cuban said team are always willing to part with the lower first rouind picks for cash. I think theKNicks could find some building blocks in the lower first round and upper second.

I agree with you BRIGGS the first two picks are a lock and if the KNicks select 3 Baylis is the man. Randolph screams the D'Antoni system just like Marion did. I can see a senario where the Knicks if given a chance to select Beasley will take it and try and go after a pg through trade. Someone like TJ Ford or the kid on Bucks who went ape shyt with assists when given run. Or they get the 5 take Randolph and go hard for a PG.
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5/11/2008  1:12 PM
Players who are on the radar for D'Antoni:

Rose
Beasley
Mayo
Bayless
Randolph
McGee
Gordon
Gallinari
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5/11/2008  1:20 PM
I said in another thread, I wonder if D'Antoni will be hot after Danilo Gallinari because of the Italy link. If anyone knows Italian basketball, it's D'Antoni, so I guess we'll know what he really thinks of Gallinari if they take him or pass on him.

Obviously if we get one of the first 2 picks, theres no chance we take him, but I could see him being taken in the 3-6 range if we draft there. I know absolutely nothing about him though, so I can't say good pick or bad pick, I wish I could watch some of his games.
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5/11/2008  1:30 PM
Posted by Vmart:

With this move you think there is a chance the KNicks might buy lower first round picks? Cuban said team are always willing to part with the lower first rouind picks for cash. I think theKNicks could find some building blocks in the lower first round and upper second.

I agree with you BRIGGS the first two picks are a lock and if the KNicks select 3 Baylis is the man. Randolph screams the D'Antoni system just like Marion did. I can see a senario where the Knicks if given a chance to select Beasley will take it and try and go after a pg through trade. Someone like TJ Ford or the kid on Bucks who went ape shyt with assists when given run. Or they get the 5 take Randolph and go hard for a PG.

Randolph is not really like Shawn Marion---more like Chris Bosh.
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5/11/2008  1:34 PM
Briggs - I think Randolph would be a perfect selection if we draft in the 3-6 range. He plays 1000X more defense than Amare does and I think eventually he can get to the point where he's almost as good as Amare offensively, he'd be perfect in this system. I really would love to get Rose and Randolph, that would be such a good base for our rebuild, but obviously, it's tough to attain lotto picks.
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5/11/2008  1:46 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Briggs - I think Randolph would be a perfect selection if we draft in the 3-6 range. He plays 1000X more defense than Amare does and I think eventually he can get to the point where he's almost as good as Amare offensively, he'd be perfect in this system. I really would love to get Rose and Randolph, that would be such a good base for our rebuild, but obviously, it's tough to attain lotto picks.

The thing with Randolph is he is unique type of player for his size because of his speed[put it this way he can dribble with the ball faster than David Lee can run without it] and can do things in terms of the break than NO ONE else in this draft can from the F position. He can take the ball off of the backcourt like Chris Bosh did at GT and actually play PG and bring the ball up at 6-11 quite quickly. He gets from end to end faster than any big player in the draft and second place isnt close. He can take any shot from3 ball to post and is adept and dribble drive at 6-11. If they are looking for a hybrid frontcourt player who can switch from end to end with all the skills necessary in the uptempo system. On top of that he will trump any guard/F we pick with the exception of Rose on the D.
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5/11/2008  1:47 PM
Jerryd Bayless is now someone that I really think we can pick and play well here.

If there's anyone who has contacts in the Italian League it's D'Antoni. If Galinari can really play wwe will take him.
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5/11/2008  1:49 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Vmart:

With this move you think there is a chance the KNicks might buy lower first round picks? Cuban said team are always willing to part with the lower first rouind picks for cash. I think theKNicks could find some building blocks in the lower first round and upper second.

I agree with you BRIGGS the first two picks are a lock and if the KNicks select 3 Baylis is the man. Randolph screams the D'Antoni system just like Marion did. I can see a senario where the Knicks if given a chance to select Beasley will take it and try and go after a pg through trade. Someone like TJ Ford or the kid on Bucks who went ape shyt with assists when given run. Or they get the 5 take Randolph and go hard for a PG.

Randolph is not really like Shawn Marion---more like Chris Bosh.

Randolph is listed as a SF.
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5/11/2008  2:03 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by BRIGGS:

[quote]Posted by Vmart:

With this move you think there is a chance the KNicks might buy lower first round picks? Cuban said team are always willing to part with the lower first rouind picks for cash. I think theKNicks could find some building blocks in the lower first round and upper second.

I agree with you BRIGGS the first two picks are a lock and if the KNicks select 3 Baylis is the man. Randolph screams the D'Antoni system just like Marion did. I can see a senario where the Knicks if given a chance to select Beasley will take it and try and go after a pg through trade. Someone like TJ Ford or the kid on Bucks who went ape shyt with assists when given run. Or they get the 5 take Randolph and go hard for a PG.

Randolph is not really like Shawn Marion---more like Chris Bosh.

Randolph is listed as a SF.


My eyes are a lot better than words on a paper trust me. He's more of a hybrid F if we had to catergorize him. But the nice thing about him is he has the skills to go pure post if need be.



[Edited by - BRIGGS on 05-11-2008 2:04 PM]
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5/11/2008  2:23 PM
Posted by Vmart:

With this move you think there is a chance the KNicks might buy lower first round picks? Cuban said team are always willing to part with the lower first rouind picks for cash. I think theKNicks could find some building blocks in the lower first round and upper second.

I agree with you BRIGGS the first two picks are a lock and if the KNicks select 3 Baylis is the man. Randolph screams the D'Antoni system just like Marion did. I can see a senario where the Knicks if given a chance to select Beasley will take it and try and go after a pg through trade. Someone like TJ Ford or the kid on Bucks who went ape shyt with assists when given run. Or they get the 5 take Randolph and go hard for a PG.

I think the Knicks draft board should have Beasley #1 and Bayless #2. As far as PG, I think TJ Ford is definitely the #1 target as a pickup. However, the kid on the Bucks -- Ramon Sessions, is legit. He can really pass and play D and his nose for scoring isn't bad either. I don't think Sessions is a star but definitely a solid player in the making.

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5/11/2008  3:26 PM
Yeah, why would a fastbreaking team want the best outlet passer since Unseld?
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5/11/2008  3:29 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:


Russell Westbrook will have to show he can shoot the ball to get consideration now after 5

Anyone who has' to prove that they are worthy are automatically off the list.
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5/11/2008  3:31 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I said in another thread, I wonder if D'Antoni will be hot after Danilo Gallinari because of the Italy link. If anyone knows Italian basketball, it's D'Antoni, so I guess we'll know what he really thinks of Gallinari if they take him or pass on him.

Obviously if we get one of the first 2 picks, theres no chance we take him, but I could see him being taken in the 3-6 range if we draft there. I know absolutely nothing about him though, so I can't say good pick or bad pick, I wish I could watch some of his games.

Agreed. If we don't get any significant finds, then I'd be more than happy to add on a few overseas guys. This is the diversity that I once said we needed badly on this franchise.
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5/11/2008  4:46 PM
Posted by PhilinLA:

Yeah, why would a fastbreaking team want the best outlet passer since Unseld?

Agreed- Kevin Love has to be high on this list. He has all the skills D'Antoni would want in a big man. Great outlet passer, is willing to run, plays hard the entire time he's out there, can shoot from the perimeter, unselfish. I think Love would certainly be a target.
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Posted by VDesai:
Posted by PhilinLA:

Yeah, why would a fastbreaking team want the best outlet passer since Unseld?

Agreed- Kevin Love has to be high on this list. He has all the skills D'Antoni would want in a big man. Great outlet passer, is willing to run, plays hard the entire time he's out there, can shoot from the perimeter, unselfish. I think Love would certainly be a target.

His utter lack of athleticism is a big problem, its not 1985 anymore. Do you have enough faith that he will be able to compensate enough to justify selecting him at such a high slot?
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Posted by VDesai:
Posted by PhilinLA:

Yeah, why would a fastbreaking team want the best outlet passer since Unseld?

Agreed- Kevin Love has to be high on this list. He has all the skills D'Antoni would want in a big man. Great outlet passer, is willing to run, plays hard the entire time he's out there, can shoot from the perimeter, unselfish. I think Love would certainly be a target.
Agreed. He knows how to play the game and has great skills. His AA is terribly underreated.

http://amonthhoffundays.blogspot.com/ We got a ringer.
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5/11/2008  5:16 PM
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by PhilinLA:

Yeah, why would a fastbreaking team want the best outlet passer since Unseld?

Agreed- Kevin Love has to be high on this list. He has all the skills D'Antoni would want in a big man. Great outlet passer, is willing to run, plays hard the entire time he's out there, can shoot from the perimeter, unselfish. I think Love would certainly be a target.

His utter lack of athleticism is a big problem, its not 1985 anymore. Do you have enough faith that he will be able to compensate enough to justify selecting him at such a high slot?

His whiteness has comically exaggerated his lack of athleticsm in the eyes of many. He doesn't have the lateral quickness and strength to make him be tremendously effective in the halfcourt, slow down set, but Love knows how to play uptempo in a more free flowing offense. I think there are teams where he'd be a disaster, and untill we hired Mike D, I wasn't sure of whether I wanted to draft him. But When D'Antoni came back over to the states he was wowed by the fact that they had 6'9, 6'10" players who played the game with the basketball IQ of a PG- fundamentally sound. Love fits the bill of the kind of player D'Antoni was impressed by in Europe. In a faster pace game, Love in the high post could end up being a tremendous fit, especially if he's joined by other athletic finishers up front (a la Lee, Balkman). He's an efficient scorer, unselfish, will move the ball and keep the pace flowing freely.
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5/11/2008  5:21 PM
He's also stronger than people think and pretty ambidextrous. When I went to see him in the tourney, I was surprised by how wide he was, and, believe it or not, how high he could jump when trying to block a shot on the perimeter. The IQ is off the charts, and he is relentless.

[Edited by - PhilinLA on 11-05-2008 5:25 PM]
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5/11/2008  7:14 PM
Not a big Kevin Love fan...

I think the main thing D'Antoni being here does is throw Bayless into the mix big time. I've seen various mocks having Bayless going anywhere from 3 to 6 - if we get a pick that's either 3, 5 or 6, you can be sure he'll be on the radar.

If nothing else, this seems like a good lotto for D'Antoni type players - skilled offensive players who thrive in the open court and creating their own shot. I'd go:

1) Rose
2) Beasley
3) Bayless
4) Randoplh
5) Mayo
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