Posted by Nalod:

I think putting Karl into a pediphile status like those seeking involutary "slave" like child prostitutes is a bit harsh.

First of all Karl passed the remark to Mrs. Bryant in a public place under the guise that they are friends and team mates.

Lets also look at Karl, who I believe came from a pretty backward small town where tradition of young marriage's are common.

If it was rape, or highly pressured even if consented I would agree Karl as a 10-20 year old should no better. But in some cultures, and some area's of this country this is not a huge thing. Now I have a 14 year old Daughter and I'd flip out if it were her, but she does not really any contact with older guys and understands that she is no where near being ready for this kind of thing. Thats here, but at her school there are girls that don't look or act their age and I suppose the parents let some things that allowed these girls to more mature. To each their own, but lets put something on the girl also who obviously put herself in a situation to get pregnant. Was this "uncle Karl" tucking her in at night? Or was the girl a regular hanging out at a popular establishment to meet college guys?

Before I put him in a pediphile catagory, I'd prefer to pass judgement until.

THe kid seems to be successful in his own right. Karl's got some special DNA as he has fathered (as much as we know) two kids whom have done very well in sports!

Nalod

Please do not try to excuse this behavior by Malone if he truly did father this child with a 13 year old. Most of my family is from all over Louisana and I can tell that if this happened to anyone in my family my grandfathers or uncles would be ready to go after him. Also there is a gross difference between getting married young to a 19,20 impregnanting then leaving a 13 year old. So I don't know where you get the idea that this type of behavior would be remotely okay. Unless your talking about some wacked out cults which as far I know Malone was not raised in. Bottom line Malone should have known better. To add insult to injury he doesn't even own up to his mistake and take care of his kid.

[Edited by - bitty41 on 05-06-2008 09:25 AM]

Posted by Nalod:

I think putting Karl into a pediphile status like those seeking involutary "slave" like child prostitutes is a bit harsh.

Nobody put K. Malone in a pediphile status, I'm just showing how there are men who prey on young girls and they don't think twice about it.

His whole basketball career could have been put on hold , if he was prosecuted for having sex with a minor.

Also him saying "it's to late to be your father, you have to make money for yourself".

This shows you the character of the individual.

As for the Hit on Kobe's wife:

Asked if there could have been a misunderstanding, Kobe Bryant said, "What he said is what he said. I believe in my heart that it wasn't a misunderstanding. My wife wasn't going to stand for it. She felt uncomfortable being around him to the point that she felt she had to call his wife and tell her."

Bryant said Malone didn't deny making the comments and told him during their phone conversation, "Aw, you know, I'm sorry if I said anything that was out of line." Added Bryant, "He was like a mentor, like a brother to me, so when something like that happens, you're upset, you're hurt."

Malone's agent, Dwight Manley, told the Los Angeles Times on Sunday that Malone was asked by Vanessa Bryant, "Hey, cowboy, what are you hunting?" in reference to Malone wearing a cowboy hat and boots.

"She said it twice," Manley said, "and Karl answered, 'I'm hunting for little Mexican girls.' "

At a Laker game:

Karl and his son were at the game sitting in the front row," Pelinka said. "Vanessa was on the cell phone talking to Karl's wife, Kay, and Vanessa said that her son looked bored. Kay told her to call Karl to have her son join her in her seats. Kay gave Vanessa Karl's cell number and she called him. When she called, Karl's response was, 'Why don't you come over here and sit next to me and give me a big hug?' Vanessa said, 'Why? For what?' And Karl replied, 'If you do that it will be on the cover of every magazine in the country.'

"Vanessa didn't know what to say because this was the first time she had ever spoken to Malone without Kobe or Kay being around. Karl continued. 'Do you like me?' Malone asked her, to which Vanessa said, 'As my friend, Kay's husband,' " Pelinka said.

"From there Malone asked Vanessa if she could keep a secret, and that he would like to tell her something. At which point Vanessa told him she was a married woman and he was a married man who was old enough to be her father. To which Malone replied, 'Oh, like your daddy?' At that point she told me she ended the conversation," Pelinka said.


On the car ride home, Vanessa Bryant told Kobe what had happened. Vanessa decided to call Kay Malone and tell her about the way her husband had spoken to her. After they hung up, Kobe Bryant called Karl Malone on his cell phone.

“ He's a legend. And if you don't like Karl Malone, there's something wrong with you. ”
— Shaquille O'Neal

"Kobe told me that Karl just listened and didn't deny any of it. Kobe said Karl's only reply was, 'You know me, man.' To which Kobe told him, 'That's right, I do know you -- and stay away from my wife,' " said Pelinka. "The next day, with all four of them on the phone, Karl denied it. At that point the Bryants knew that there was nothing left to talk about since they knew Karl wasn't telling the truth. Vanessa told me that she told Kay that she [Vanessa] wanted her [Kay] to know 'just exactly what your husband [Karl] did, and you do what you want with the information.' "

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Yea Nalod, Im starting to think you are trying to cover for this wild cowboy.






[Edited by - playa2 on 06-05-2008 09:42]

Posted by Nalod:

First off, I don't give a rats ass about Karl Malone, or Vanessa Byrant, nor do I trust anyting that comes out of any of their mouths. Kobe was also under the gun for his colorado situation at that time. WTF kind of gossop crap you read anyway playa?

Second, I was resonding to Playas comapre of child prostitution.

Do some 13 year olds get married on this planet? In cultures different from ours?

Are there some different cultures in the State of Louisiana that are differnt from ours? Am I being pig headed to indict them in total without all the facts?

Are we taking about 43 year old Karl fathering a child or a 19 year old college sophmore? And we talking 1980 or there abouts?

When I was 18 I had a 14 year old girl all over me when I was visiting a family in Florida one summer. The girl was incredible looking and while nothing happened it was out of respect to the family and my feeling was it was wrong because of the nature of the relationship. But would there be circumstances that it could have happened? Maybe. As an adult with a similar aged daughter I know I made the right choice, but like I said, if I were partying, and this suduction went on for some time, and removed from any adult supervision???? I don't really know to be quite honest.

As a parent, I can now look back and recognize this girl home situation was a bit dysfunctional and her flurtation with me was a call for attention. This girl was strutting her new sensuality and it was a powerful force she was weilding. Like I said, NOTHING happened.

And like I said, Karl is a jerk. BUt in the abscence of many facts, its pretty stupid to just lop this clown with the most despicable of sexual deviants.

And Bitty, maybe if this girl (Malones) had family like yours to back her up it might not have happend to begin with.

I talk with my daughter who has told me of contempararies who date older guys and I ask her what she thinks and she thinks its pretty stupid. Teens will tell you what they want to you to hear but at least my daughter knows it wrong and why. If she chooses to make a bad decision then she at least knows the choice is hers. Thats the best I can do other than lock her up. She does not date, has really good close friends, great student and a busy kid with sports and her singing. She does not have any opportunity to hang out with college sophmores. Thats me and my world, but its my reference and what I do and have done in the real world.

Bitty I am not ignorant to why its wrong, cuz it is.

Malond not talking to him or helping him is pretty bad. But this is not Karls only child out of wedlock so his prespective is pretty differnt. And for that Im trying to understand not just pass judgement over a paragraph not even scratching the surface.

I remember Jermaine O'neil getting into a heap of trouble for getting a BJ in highschool from an underage girl, and the horrible story of guys getting arrested and scholarships taken away for 18 year olds being with 14 year old girls and the parents then freaking out. Laws are changing but there are these stories.

So we got the Shawn Kemps, LJ's and Malone's now having grown kids and the stories that go with them. We had Anthony Mason in a Limo with 14 year old girls. Not college sophmore Mason but in his mid twenties. That got him traded out of NY.

And Playa, are we so Naive that the quote "make your own money" was perhaps the only thing ever said and thats the quote the media is gonna run with? Your so gulible to anything written that itself is pretty scarey.