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5/3/2008  12:05 AM
Report: Kobe wins first MVP trophy


LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Kobe Bryant has won the NBA's MVP award for the first time, the Los Angeles Times reported on its Web site Friday night, citing anonymous sources familiar with the outcome of voting by media members.

The newspaper reported that commissioner David Stern will be in Los Angeles next week to present the trophy to Bryant.

"We have not been told anything by the league," Lakers spokesman John Black told The Associated Press.

Bryant, who entered the season as the league's two-time defending scoring champion, had third in the MVP voting twice -- after the 2002-03 campaign, when he averaged 30 points for the first time, and again last season, when Dallas' Dirk Nowitzki won the award.
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5/3/2008  1:47 AM
Kobe deserves an MVP, but this year, it was Chris Paul.Take Kobe off the Lakers, they'll stink, but not be completely terrible. I think you take Paul off the Hornets and they'd fall apart completely.
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5/3/2008  2:00 AM
I think this was the deserved winner. Chris Paul would have also made an excellent choice as well but Kobe spurred his team to the #1 seed in the West, which I'm sure was the determining factor.
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5/3/2008  3:32 AM
Kobe was great this year and his team was even better. I really believe everyone saw a Kobe Bryant that finally trusted his teammates this year. He definetely deserved a MVP trophy.

That being said, CP3 was beyond great this year. Personally I think he did "more" with "less" on his team. Like SupremeCommander said that team would be nothing without CP3. So I kind of feel he's getting robbed in a way. If Kobe had an MVP under his belt I think CP3 would have won this year. Even then you cant go wrong with either guy as MVP.
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5/3/2008  3:37 AM
Kobe also played with a fractured shooting hand for 1/2 the year.
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5/3/2008  5:36 AM
Kobe should have won last year or the year before so this is a make up.

It was btw Chris Paul and Lebron. Paul is the new Darling but Lebron has been a wrecking ball all year. Either one would have been better choices this season.

Anyway, like said Kobe deserved the award before so better late than never.
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5/3/2008  9:28 AM
He had to win it at some point. It's hard to imagine looking back on Kobe's career after he retires and realizing he never won the MVP award despite being the best player in the league for years.

This should have been his second MVP award.
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5/3/2008  12:59 PM
Now that we know this award wreally doesn't mean a lot and it's a take turn award we owe you award, it's safe to say it will be Paul's next yr and then Lebron's after that and then Howard's after that. It won't matter what anyone else does in the league.
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5/3/2008  1:51 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

Now that we know this award wreally doesn't mean a lot and it's a take turn award we owe you award, it's safe to say it will be Paul's next yr and then Lebron's after that and then Howard's after that. It won't matter what anyone else does in the league.

Nonsense! This is way overdue. Kobe earned this a long time ago. It stands for 'Most Valuable Player' and he's been just that.
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5/3/2008  2:01 PM
Everyone saying that Kobe should've won in previous years is neglecting the fact that the NBA MVP has a history of going to players on one of the top teams in the NBA. This was the first year that Kobe has taken a Lakers team without Shaq and made them one of the top teams. He deserves it. Paul also deserves the award, but there's only one award.
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5/3/2008  2:20 PM
I think Shaq was nothing without Kobe and Kobe would've handled himself well, just like he's doing now. Kobe isn't exactly like a side kick, like Pippy Longstocking was to jordan!

Now as far as the three championships? Who knows if they ever would have one without each other.
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5/3/2008  3:31 PM
Posted by 4949:

I think Shaq was nothing without Kobe and Kobe would've handled himself well, just like he's doing now. Kobe isn't exactly like a side kick, like Pippy Longstocking was to jordan!

Now as far as the three championships? Who knows if they ever would have one without each other.

That's all well and good, but the MVP = Most Valuable Player, which not is necessarily equivalent to the best player, nor the player who is the most exciting, nor the player who puts the most points in the basket. I think sometimes people are confused by this. Kobe earned it this year because he actually made his teammates better more than he had in the past and his team excelled.
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5/3/2008  3:51 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by 4949:

I think Shaq was nothing without Kobe and Kobe would've handled himself well, just like he's doing now. Kobe isn't exactly like a side kick, like Pippy Longstocking was to jordan!

Now as far as the three championships? Who knows if they ever would have one without each other.

That's all well and good, but the MVP = Most Valuable Player, which not is necessarily equivalent to the best player, nor the player who is the most exciting, nor the player who puts the most points in the basket. I think sometimes people are confused by this. Kobe earned it this year because he actually made his teammates better more than he had in the past and his team excelled.

Your right, but you have to apply that to chris paul.
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5/3/2008  4:44 PM
Posted by knicks1248:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by 4949:

I think Shaq was nothing without Kobe and Kobe would've handled himself well, just like he's doing now. Kobe isn't exactly like a side kick, like Pippy Longstocking was to jordan!

Now as far as the three championships? Who knows if they ever would have one without each other.

That's all well and good, but the MVP = Most Valuable Player, which not is necessarily equivalent to the best player, nor the player who is the most exciting, nor the player who puts the most points in the basket. I think sometimes people are confused by this. Kobe earned it this year because he actually made his teammates better more than he had in the past and his team excelled.

Your right, but you have to apply that to chris paul.


Absolutely I mean Chris Paul did help in a great way get David West to the All-Star game. He almost got Tyson in too. I think it's troubling players appear to get rewarded for things they should be doing at all times. Just because Kobe decided to play team ball doesn't mean he should be automatically deemed All-Star MVP. Did Kobe have a good season of course he did. But Chris Paul had essentially history making season and although playoffs aren't included, he produced a history making first round in his first playoffs by any first time player at the point guard position. I mentioned the latter to take into context what kind of player was being considered here. I accept the fact this award is a Make-Up award, but it isn't right. What kind of Bum Ass logic is it anyway? I already knew he was MVP on Monday, it's really late news and was a foregone conclusion well before the season ended. The day the NBA isn't calculated, predictable, and a sham is the day we can truly say this sport is 100% real.
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5/3/2008  5:34 PM
Kobe had a tremendous year and was able to bring the Lakers to an elite level working with Walton, Bynum, Farmer, Gasol, Fisher. The role players seemed to step their play and get better as the season went on under his leadership. I was slightly suprised considering he has a reputation for putting down his team and not being the best teammate. This year the show was about the Lakers and not only about Kobe.

IMO Paul deserved the MVP slgihtly over Kobe.
Paul = unstoppable, 20+ pts, 10+ assists, ++Steals, good defender
Totally made his team much better and nearly led them to the best record in the Western Conference. Paul raises the level of the Hornet's efficiency. He is definitely a top 5 player in the league and possibly top 3. Like Kobe and Lebron; he can do anything he wants on the court aside from dunk on a team. I wish he was on the Knicks. Painful to watch half or more of league with excellent to elite point guards leading their teams, while we have nothing.

BTW, Steve Nash IMO definitely deserved his 2 MVP's and it does not mean someone else got a raw deal. While the NBA is not even on the same plant as the 80's or 90's, to me Nash was leading his team like a wrecking train Tasmanian devil on a mission. During the regular season he single handedly made the Suns a juggernaut. Not to mention he can score whenever he wants to, have anyone on his team score whenever he wants to, 50+ % field goals, near 90% FT's, 10-11 + assists and clutch shots all day every day (MVP seasons). Nash was as effective if not more effective than Paul is right now.

The Suns never have post season success and cant beat the Spurs because they have no defense and unfortunately Nash's defense went from average to terrible (allows opposing guards to get in the lane like a turnstile and starts his defense at the FT line). The Spurs play defense. I can't think of any team in the NBA that plays no defense and won a championship.
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5/3/2008  6:07 PM
Posted by knicks1248:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by 4949:

I think Shaq was nothing without Kobe and Kobe would've handled himself well, just like he's doing now. Kobe isn't exactly like a side kick, like Pippy Longstocking was to jordan!

Now as far as the three championships? Who knows if they ever would have one without each other.

That's all well and good, but the MVP = Most Valuable Player, which not is necessarily equivalent to the best player, nor the player who is the most exciting, nor the player who puts the most points in the basket. I think sometimes people are confused by this. Kobe earned it this year because he actually made his teammates better more than he had in the past and his team excelled.

Your right, but you have to apply that to chris paul.

Absolutely. I think that if the Hornets had the #1 seed in the west that Paul gets the MVP. I think the Lakers winning the west's #1 seed may have been the tiebreaker.

[Edited by - Solace on May 03 2008 6:07 PM]
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5/3/2008  6:35 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:

Kobe deserves an MVP, but this year, it was Chris Paul.Take Kobe off the Lakers, they'll stink, but not be completely terrible. I think you take Paul off the Hornets and they'd fall apart completely.

if you use this logic you have to give it to lebron not just this year but last year also

the cavs without lebron are by FAR the worst team in the league, maybe ever lol

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5/3/2008  7:42 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by knicks1248:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by 4949:

I think Shaq was nothing without Kobe and Kobe would've handled himself well, just like he's doing now. Kobe isn't exactly like a side kick, like Pippy Longstocking was to jordan!

Now as far as the three championships? Who knows if they ever would have one without each other.

That's all well and good, but the MVP = Most Valuable Player, which not is necessarily equivalent to the best player, nor the player who is the most exciting, nor the player who puts the most points in the basket. I think sometimes people are confused by this. Kobe earned it this year because he actually made his teammates better more than he had in the past and his team excelled.

Your right, but you have to apply that to chris paul.

Absolutely. I think that if the Hornets had the #1 seed in the west that Paul gets the MVP. I think the Lakers winning the west's #1 seed may have been the tiebreaker.

[Edited by - Solace on May 03 2008 6:07 PM]


What else is troubling is that Byron scott was name coach of the year which he got base on pauls play.

You look at N O last year with all the injuries, they didn't get close to the playoffs. There roster is about as balance as you can get as far as defenders, shooters, and a great play make leading the way.

Even with out paul gasol and andrew bynum, the lakers where still winning and I give Phil the credit there. Not taking anything away from kobe, i just think chris p took it to new levels.
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5/3/2008  10:07 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by 4949:

I think Shaq was nothing without Kobe and Kobe would've handled himself well, just like he's doing now. Kobe isn't exactly like a side kick, like Pippy Longstocking was to jordan!

Now as far as the three championships? Who knows if they ever would have one without each other.

That's all well and good, but the MVP = Most Valuable Player, which not is necessarily equivalent to the best player, nor the player who is the most exciting, nor the player who puts the most points in the basket. I think sometimes people are confused by this. Kobe earned it this year because he actually made his teammates better more than he had in the past and his team excelled.

I'll except that, after all, it is applied to the guy who makes the team better. Good point. Just like Nash did in PHX. I would've liked to have seen what the Kobe would have done, if he had the Lakers all to himself the last ten years.
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5/3/2008  11:02 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

Now that we know this award wreally doesn't mean a lot and it's a take turn award we owe you award, it's safe to say it will be Paul's next yr and then Lebron's after that and then Howard's after that. It won't matter what anyone else does in the league.

if that's your take on winning the mvp....try again, cause jason kidd should've won the following year after tim duncan stole it from jason the year before.

this is a rewind mvp

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