Last year, the New York Times reported that two Ohio recruiters were quick to sign up a recruit "fresh from a three-week commitment in a psychiatric ward" even after the man's parents told them he had bipolar disorder -- a diagnosis that would disqualify him." After senior officers found out, the mentally ill man's enlistment was canceled, but in "[i]nterviews with more than two dozen recruiters in 10 states," the Times heard others talk of "concealing mental-health histories and police records," among other illicit practices.




In May of this year, the Oregonian reported that Army recruiters, using hard sell tactics and offering thousands of dollars in enlistment bonus money, signed up an autistic teenager "for the Army's most dangerous job: cavalry scout." The boy, who had been enrolled in "special education classes since preschool" and through "a special program for disabled workersÖha[d] a part-time job scrubbing toilets and dumping trash," didn't even know the U.S. was at war in Iraq until his parents explained it to him after he was first approached by a recruiter. Only following a flurry of negative publicity, did the Army announce that it would release the autistic teen from his enlistment obligation.

In 2004, the Pentagon instituted a "Moral Waiver Study" whose seemingly benign goal was "to better define relationships between pre-Service behaviors and subsequent Service success." That turned out to mean opening the recruitment doors to potential enlistees with criminal records. In February of this year, the Baltimore Sun wrote that there was "a significant increase in the number of recruits with what the Army terms ëserious criminal misconduct' in their background" -- a category that included: "aggravated assault, robbery, vehicular manslaughter, receiving stolen property and making terrorist threats." From 2004 to 2005, the number of those recruits had spiked by over 54%, while alcohol and illegal drug waivers, reversing a four-year downward trend, increased by over 13%.

According to the Chicago Sun-Times, law enforcement officials report that the military is now "allowing more applicants with gang tattoos because they are under the gun to keep enlistment up." They also note that "gang activity may be rising among soldiers." The paper was provided with "photos of military buildings and equipment in Iraq that were vandalized with graffiti of gangs based in Chicago, Los Angeles and other cities."




Last month, the Sun-Times reported that a gang member facing federal charges of murder and robbery enlisted in the Marine Corps "while he was free on bond -- and was preparing to ship out to boot camp when Marine officials recently discovered he was under indictment." While this particular recruit was eventually booted from the Corps, a Milwaukee Police Detective and Army veteran, who serves on the federal drug and gang task force that arrested the would-be Marine, noted that other "[g]ang-bangers are going over to Iraq and sending weapons backÖ gang members are getting access to military training and weapons."




Earlier this year, it was reported that an expected transfer of 10,000-20,000 troops to Fort Bliss, Texas caused FBI and local law enforcement to fear "a turf war" between "members of the Folk Nation gangÖ[and] a criminal group that is already well-established in the area, Barrio Azteca." The New York Sun wrote that, according to one FBI agent, "Folk Nation, which was founded in Chicago and includes several branches using the name Gangster Disciples, has gained a foothold in the Army."

Another type of "gang" member has also begun to proliferate within the military, evidently thanks to lowered recruitment standards and an increasing urge by recruiters to look the other way. In July, a study by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks racist and right-wing militia groups, found that -- due to pressing manpower concerns -- "large numbers of neo-Nazis and skinhead extremists" are now serving the military. "Recruiters are knowingly allowing neo-Nazis and white supremacists to join the armed forces and commanders don't remove them from the military even after we positively identify them as extremists or gang members," said Scott Barfield, a Defense Department investigator quoted in the report.




The New York Times noted that the neo-Nazi magazine Resistance is actually recruiting for the U.S. military "urg[ing] skinheads to join the Army and insist on being assigned to light infantry units." As the magazine explained, "The coming race war and the ethnic cleansing to follow will be very much an infantryman's warÖ It will be house-to-houseÖ until your town or city is cleared and the alien races are driven into the countryside where they can be hunted down and ëcleansed.'"




Apparently, the recruiting push has worked. Barfield reported that he and other investigators have identified a network of neo-Nazi active-duty Army and Marine personnel spread across five military installations in five states. "They're communicating with each other about weapons, about recruiting, about keeping their identities secret, about organizing within the military." Little wonder that "Aryan Nations graffiti" is now apparently competing for space among American inner-city gang graffiti in Iraq.

Posted by ramtour420:

So ? Pretty much all of them are gonna be murderers anyway and some probably rapists by the time they are done in Iraq.

Posted by izybx:

Posted by ramtour420:

So ? Pretty much all of them are gonna be murderers anyway and some probably rapists by the time they are done in Iraq.

What are you retarded? Have you ever served a day of your soft little life in the service? Have you ever worked any kind of job that involved you getting your fat ass up from behind a computer and getting your hands dirty? Have you ever met/seen/spoken to a real soldier? Im guessing all the answer is no to every question. I would love to see you have the balls to say such a thing in person to a combat vet from any war. I bet my grandfather who served in world war 2 would still be able to knock you on your ass. Your a pathetic coward who hides behind a screen and bashes real men who put their lives on the line for trash like you. Ill tell you, Ive served 7 years in the Army Infantry and I never met one "murderer" or "rapist". Perhaps if you had the balls to put your name on a contract you would have the priveledge of serving with patriots, but since you dont, since you are just a coward, you can bash them on a basketball forum to your little ***** ass hearts content.

Posted by playa2:


http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D906BM5G1&show_article=1


WASHINGTON (AP) - Under pressure to increase their numbers, the Army and Marine Corps are sharply raising the number of recruits with felony convictions they are admitting to the services.
Data released by a congressional committee shows that the number of soldiers admitted to the Army with felony records jumped from 249 in 2006 to 511 in 2007. And the number of Marines with felonies rose from 208 to 350.

The bulk of the crimes were for burglaries, other thefts, and drug offenses, but nine involved sex crimes and six involved manslaughter or vehicular homicide convictions.

Well it's about damn time. Now maybe they can get their legs blown off. Justice served.

Posted by Killa4luv:

Posted by izybx:

Posted by ramtour420:

So ? Pretty much all of them are gonna be murderers anyway and some probably rapists by the time they are done in Iraq.

What are you retarded? Have you ever served a day of your soft little life in the service? Have you ever worked any kind of job that involved you getting your fat ass up from behind a computer and getting your hands dirty? Have you ever met/seen/spoken to a real soldier? Im guessing all the answer is no to every question. I would love to see you have the balls to say such a thing in person to a combat vet from any war. I bet my grandfather who served in world war 2 would still be able to knock you on your ass. Your a pathetic coward who hides behind a screen and bashes real men who put their lives on the line for trash like you. Ill tell you, Ive served 7 years in the Army Infantry and I never met one "murderer" or "rapist". Perhaps if you had the balls to put your name on a contract you would have the priveledge of serving with patriots, but since you dont, since you are just a coward, you can bash them on a basketball forum to your little ***** ass hearts content.

Izybx:
these guys will be killing people correct?
This is an unjust and immoral war correct?
Doesnt that mean they will be murderers?

Posted by ramtour420:

very touching izybx, and i cannot and would not take anything away from the sadness of the personal situations which are affected by war. 4 thousand of our fellows died and countless others were maimed and crippled. And pretty much everyone who was there has PTSS and are scarred mentally. Those guys and girls are heroes and i never said they werent except if they've killed someone then they are murderers and i don't have a problem with the word. I have a problem with the concept of killing people for no good reason, thats right. Call me a coward or whatever you want. Iraqies who killed our soldiers are murderers too and to their people, in their culture they are heroes too. I am not taking sides, i try to see it from both points. It seems like the position is the same, both Americans and Iraq people are murderers and both are heroes. And the United States of America made it happen.

And why are you asking me if i'd ever "ask this guy's mom if he was a murderer or rapist" ? When family members get involved its a different thing. When someone close to you dies these types of discussions are rude and pointless. Oh and by the way, big part of being an American is accepting other cultures and other views and if you don't agree with that then you are not being patriotic yourself imho.

Posted by martin:

Posted by ramtour420:

very touching izybx, and i cannot and would not take anything away from the sadness of the personal situations which are affected by war. 4 thousand of our fellows died and countless others were maimed and crippled. And pretty much everyone who was there has PTSS and are scarred mentally. Those guys and girls are heroes and i never said they werent except if they've killed someone then they are murderers and i don't have a problem with the word. I have a problem with the concept of killing people for no good reason, thats right. Call me a coward or whatever you want. Iraqies who killed our soldiers are murderers too and to their people, in their culture they are heroes too. I am not taking sides, i try to see it from both points. It seems like the position is the same, both Americans and Iraq people are murderers and both are heroes. And the United States of America made it happen.

And why are you asking me if i'd ever "ask this guy's mom if he was a murderer or rapist" ? When family members get involved its a different thing. When someone close to you dies these types of discussions are rude and pointless. Oh and by the way, big part of being an American is accepting other cultures and other views and if you don't agree with that then you are not being patriotic yourself imho.

I think what izybx and other may suggest to you is that your definition of a murderer and its implied implication is waaaaaaaayyyyyy off base. If you lump murderers and killers into one group you are a bit naive in the least and quite daft too. Just MHO. I mean, we have all killed some form of life right? Bugs, animals for food (directly or indirectly), etc, right? That's why we have different shades of grey and include the morality behind it.

Posted by ramtour420:

Posted by martin:

Posted by ramtour420:

very touching izybx, and i cannot and would not take anything away from the sadness of the personal situations which are affected by war. 4 thousand of our fellows died and countless others were maimed and crippled. And pretty much everyone who was there has PTSS and are scarred mentally. Those guys and girls are heroes and i never said they werent except if they've killed someone then they are murderers and i don't have a problem with the word. I have a problem with the concept of killing people for no good reason, thats right. Call me a coward or whatever you want. Iraqies who killed our soldiers are murderers too and to their people, in their culture they are heroes too. I am not taking sides, i try to see it from both points. It seems like the position is the same, both Americans and Iraq people are murderers and both are heroes. And the United States of America made it happen.

And why are you asking me if i'd ever "ask this guy's mom if he was a murderer or rapist" ? When family members get involved its a different thing. When someone close to you dies these types of discussions are rude and pointless. Oh and by the way, big part of being an American is accepting other cultures and other views and if you don't agree with that then you are not being patriotic yourself imho.

I think what izybx and other may suggest to you is that your definition of a murderer and its implied implication is waaaaaaaayyyyyy off base. If you lump murderers and killers into one group you are a bit naive in the least and quite daft too. Just MHO. I mean, we have all killed some form of life right? Bugs, animals for food (directly or indirectly), etc, right? That's why we have different shades of grey and include the morality behind it.

I understand what you are saying. There is a difference between killing an animal or some other lower life form and a human life tho. Its like this, its ok to kill and eat a cow but its not ok to kill and eat a human. Thats the common perception. I am a vegetarian myself and i don't wanna eat neither. Just like i wouldn't want to participate in anything that involves murder. I don't care how ethically or morally "good" or "right" murder or killing is. Only 1 exception- self defense. Now if, god forbid, there is a Hitler-like threat, an invasion, i believe its ok to kill in order to defend one's homeland from occupants.

Any other kind of killing is wrong and dishonorable. But even i make a distinction between different kinds of murder. However, even in self-defense its still murder, except its justified. And i am naive and daft, i really don't expect anyone to share my point of view.

Defend your position even tho you know your wrong. You wont eat meat, you respect every culture in the world, and im sure that you would go out of your way to avoid slandering any sex/racial/ethnic/religious group because thats just wrong. But its perfectly okay to call the people who make it possible for you to sleep at night murderers and rapists. The words roll so easily off of your tongue, and the rest of the mindless cattle around you bobble their heads in agreement. We are the great satan right? We are a classist, racist, oil guzzling, earth hating, violence loving, unenlightend evil society right? Theres no point arguing with a person like you with your distorted perception of America.