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4/21/2008  10:56 AM
Former top prep recruit Brumbaugh to enter NBA draft

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Keith Brumbaugh was a top-notch college prospect in 2005, but off-court problems derailed his NBA dream. After a one-year stint as the top scorer on the junior college level, Brumbaugh informed officials Friday that he plans on entering the NBA draft.


According to the Orlando Sentinel, a formal news conference is tentatively scheduled for Monday in which Brumbaugh will announce that he is skipping his remaining years of juco eligibility to turn pro. According to the newspaper, USC, South Florida, Connecticut and Ohio State had shown interest in Brumbaugh.

Brumbaugh, 22, was named Florida's "Mr. Basketball" in 2005 after a standout career at DeLand High and signed with Oklahoma State out of high school. He never played for the Cowboys and left the team after the winter break in 2005 due to eligibility issues surrounding an ACT score.

After leaving Oklahoma State, Brumbaugh was at Chipola Junior College in Pensacola, but never played for them. He finally landed at Tampa's Hillsborough Community College last season and led the juco ranks in scoring while drawing a steady stream of NBA scouts to most of his games. Brumbaugh, 6-foot-9 and 205 pounds, averaged 36.5 points, 10 rebounds, 6.1 assists and 4.8 steals at HCC and will likely be a second-round pick.

"They all say he can play," HCC Coach Derrick Worrels told the newspaper of the pro scouts evaluating Brumbaugh. "The questions they have are mainly, 'What do we have to concern ourselves with outside the court?' "

Brumbaugh was arrested six times over a 26-month span and also served two jail sentences, but he says he's learned from his mistakes.

"I've made some stupid decisions in my life -- and with decisions come consequences," Brumbaugh told the Sentinel. "But I've paid my debt to society, I'm back on track and looking to the future, not the past."

"He's been extremely pre-occupied with thoughts of the NBA," Worrels told the St. Petersburg Times. "He wasn't far off as far as the grades he needed to play somewhere next season, but if the classroom isn't a priority to him, this is the best thing for him."

Once Brumbaugh officially enters the draft, he will begin working toward the NBA pre-draft camp that starts May 27 at Disney's Wide World of Sports in Orlando.

"It was just a minute ago that nobody ever thought I'd play basketball again," Brumbaugh told the Sentinel. "Now my name is stronger than it was two weeks ago. And two weeks from now it'll be stronger than it is today because I am going to keep doing the right thing."

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4/21/2008  12:37 PM
I wish him luck. Hopefully he has his act together
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4/21/2008  1:03 PM
I'm glad he got his act together in time for the draft, because now it's up to Gm's and scouts to make the right choices concerning who to draft...this is what they get paid for..

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4/21/2008  3:51 PM
Arrested six times in two years? Two jail sentences? I mean everybody makes mistakes, but this shows a pattern and a complete disregard for the law. Now you think hell stop? LOL. Once a perp always a perp, whoever wastes a pick on this kid will regret it.
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4/21/2008  4:10 PM
Posted by izybx:

Arrested six times in two years? Two jail sentences? I mean everybody makes mistakes, but this shows a pattern and a complete disregard for the law. Now you think hell stop? LOL. Once a perp always a perp, whoever wastes a pick on this kid will regret it.

Not always true, but if I was GM I would probably shy away from the kid. There are so many talented players out there, you really have to be in the right spot as an organization to be able to take a chance on a guy like this. Chances are...........
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4/21/2008  4:25 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by izybx:

Arrested six times in two years? Two jail sentences? I mean everybody makes mistakes, but this shows a pattern and a complete disregard for the law. Now you think hell stop? LOL. Once a perp always a perp, whoever wastes a pick on this kid will regret it.

Not always true, but if I was GM I would probably shy away from the kid. There are so many talented players out there, you really have to be in the right spot as an organization to be able to take a chance on a guy like this. Chances are...........

I'd consider you for coach, but not GM.
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4/21/2008  4:34 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by izybx:

Arrested six times in two years? Two jail sentences? I mean everybody makes mistakes, but this shows a pattern and a complete disregard for the law. Now you think hell stop? LOL. Once a perp always a perp, whoever wastes a pick on this kid will regret it.

Not always true, but if I was GM I would probably shy away from the kid. There are so many talented players out there, you really have to be in the right spot as an organization to be able to take a chance on a guy like this. Chances are...........

I'd consider you for coach, but not GM.

I think I'm ready for a GM job. You should see the teams I pick for pick-up games at the Y. I run court all day.
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4/21/2008  4:50 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by BasketballJones:
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Posted by izybx:

Arrested six times in two years? Two jail sentences? I mean everybody makes mistakes, but this shows a pattern and a complete disregard for the law. Now you think hell stop? LOL. Once a perp always a perp, whoever wastes a pick on this kid will regret it.

Not always true, but if I was GM I would probably shy away from the kid. There are so many talented players out there, you really have to be in the right spot as an organization to be able to take a chance on a guy like this. Chances are...........

I'd consider you for coach, but not GM.

I think I'm ready for a GM job. You should see the teams I pick for pick-up games at the Y. I run court all day.

I can picture it. Bippity brags about how great he is and how he can play with anyone. He then chooses a little goofy kid with glasses that doesn't seem to know how to tie his own shoes. Half way through the game, all of the sudden the kid turns into an And1 street legend.
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4/21/2008  4:54 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by izybx:

Arrested six times in two years? Two jail sentences? I mean everybody makes mistakes, but this shows a pattern and a complete disregard for the law. Now you think hell stop? LOL. Once a perp always a perp, whoever wastes a pick on this kid will regret it.

Not always true, but if I was GM I would probably shy away from the kid. There are so many talented players out there, you really have to be in the right spot as an organization to be able to take a chance on a guy like this. Chances are...........

I'd consider you for coach, but not GM.

I think I'm ready for a GM job. You should see the teams I pick for pick-up games at the Y. I run court all day.

I can picture it. Bippity brags about how great he is and how he can play with anyone. He then chooses a little goofy kid with glasses that doesn't seem to know how to tie his own shoes. Half way through the game, all of the sudden the kid turns into an And1 street legend.

Sounds like a movie
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4/21/2008  6:10 PM
This is why you have second round picks. If the guy shows well in workouts, you take him with a second round pick. If he proves himself, you give him a longer deal. If not, you cut him. No big deal and no guaranteed money.
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4/21/2008  8:29 PM
Why aren't scouts and Gm's called to the carpet when the gamble and take a kid not ready, why does everybody bash the kid with the "he's blowing his chance to be a pro" yada yada yada.

Do managers and supervisors in corporate world last when they gamble and take a chance on hiring personel who doesn't pan out.

They wouldn't even take the chance, but in the NBA Gm's who gamble and lose turn the blame on the player instead of blaming themselves for such bad judgement.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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Posted by playa2:

Why aren't scouts and Gm's called to the carpet when the gamble and take a kid not ready, why does everybody bash the kid with the "he's blowing his chance to be a pro" yada yada yada.

Do managers and supervisors in corporate world last when they gamble and take a chance on hiring personel who doesn't pan out.

They wouldn't even take the chance, but in the NBA Gm's who gamble and lose turn the blame on the player instead of blaming themselves for such bad judgement.

I know we've had this conversation before. I think the GM should be held accountable. In places like NY, they do. But when the kid fails unfortunately life holds them accountable.
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4/21/2008  9:11 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by playa2:

Why aren't scouts and Gm's called to the carpet when the gamble and take a kid not ready, why does everybody bash the kid with the "he's blowing his chance to be a pro" yada yada yada.

Do managers and supervisors in corporate world last when they gamble and take a chance on hiring personel who doesn't pan out.

They wouldn't even take the chance, but in the NBA Gm's who gamble and lose turn the blame on the player instead of blaming themselves for such bad judgement.

I know we've had this conversation before. I think the GM should be held accountable. In places like NY, they do. But when the kid fails unfortunately life holds them accountable.

Life holds them accountable bip ?

What about the guaranteed contract that the scout or GM just cost the owner of the franchise?

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4/21/2008  10:16 PM
This guy wont even get drafted so don't worry about getting a chance on him. I'd pass on this guy with every pick in the draft except 60.
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4/22/2008  9:28 AM
Posted by playa2:
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Why aren't scouts and Gm's called to the carpet when the gamble and take a kid not ready, why does everybody bash the kid with the "he's blowing his chance to be a pro" yada yada yada.

Do managers and supervisors in corporate world last when they gamble and take a chance on hiring personel who doesn't pan out.

They wouldn't even take the chance, but in the NBA Gm's who gamble and lose turn the blame on the player instead of blaming themselves for such bad judgement.

I know we've had this conversation before. I think the GM should be held accountable. In places like NY, they do. But when the kid fails unfortunately life holds them accountable.

Life holds them accountable bip ?

What about the guaranteed contract that the scout or GM just cost the owner of the franchise?

The reason why the accountability is not even is a simple one. Fans/writers always dreamed of being a player. They do not dream of being GM's. When the GM fails they call him an idiot and move on. When the player fails they see an opportunity wasted. An opportunity they themselves would kill for, that someone else had and wasted. This normally is enough to illicit a more intense response. Understandable no? What response are you looking for?
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4/22/2008  9:52 AM
Blame should always start at the top and with those involved in decision making for major franchises held accountable and Responsible.

We as fans/ not writers should hold those wearing suits in the NBA to a higher degree of standard than players (who play the game) when it comes to investing in "a product".
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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4/22/2008  9:58 AM
Posted by playa2:

Blame should always start at the top and with those involved in decision making for major franchises held accountable and Responsible.

We as fans/ not writers should hold those wearing suits in the NBA to a higher degree of standard than players (who play the game) when it comes to investing in "a product".

How do you want the GM to be held accountable? What are you looking for?
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4/22/2008  10:03 AM
I have sat down with kids coming out of highschool. Kids that have had no luck in life. Kids that have gotten in trouble and seem on the road to no where. YOu sit down and interview the kid and everything that comes out of his mouth is exactly how it should. You interview friends and family and they tell you how much the kid is changing. You do all your research.

Now it's time to make your decision. He's a PG. I will need a PG in two years. I'm going to take a chance on this kid. If he fails I still have another year to find one. The kid walks into my team and is given every opportunity to succeed. He instead gets into more trouble and fails. If I have more successes than failures than noone holds me accountable for this because the team will go on. If I have more kids like this than successes than I lose my job.

But the kid probably isn't getting another shot. Life holds him accountable. The fans see their team move on and forget about the mistake I made. But they also see a kid that had the opportunity that they wish they had, and this piosses people off. This is human nature.
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4/22/2008  10:09 AM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by playa2:

Blame should always start at the top and with those involved in decision making for major franchises held accountable and Responsible.

We as fans/ not writers should hold those wearing suits in the NBA to a higher degree of standard than players (who play the game) when it comes to investing in "a product".

How do you want the GM to be held accountable? What are you looking for?

You said : Fans/writers always dreamed of being a player. They do not dream of being GM's. When the GM fails they call him an idiot and move on. When the player fails they see an opportunity wasted.

We have many inspiring to be GM's on this site don't you think ?


Gm's should be held accountable more by everyone when it comes to drafting young talent. For example , when you see a player taking high in the draft and after 4 -5 yrs are considered a bust, there is an unbalanced amount of blame towards the player and not the talent evaluator of the franchise.

But as soon as that same talent evaluator hits the jack pot , he's considered a genius.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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4/22/2008  10:11 AM
So again, how do you want them to be held accountable. Is Isiah not being held accountable for his bad moves? Layden? Were these guys not villified. I guess I'm just not sure what you are looking for in a reaction
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