Check out the sophomores this year. Gay Roy, Aldridge, and Foye were the only guys to put up better numbers than Lee. No one in the draft class had a double-double and you want to trade him for a high ceiling player which means the guy hasnt accomplished that much in college. There is no way Randolph will be in the top 6 of this draft. We need a guard and I take EG over Westbrook.

I don't want to trade lee for a pick. Although I'd consider trading him to unload Curry.

Given how Lee is out biggest asset we'll prolly need to trade him to get rid of one or hopefully couple of our bad contracts if we want to have cap space in 2010. Any other , except maybe Chandler,knick we could/should trade for draftpicks.

Me wanting to trade Lee (and Nate) for a pick has little to do with him as a player. The logic is simple: The Knicks are trying to get under the cap to make a free agent run. With the nightmarish contracts the Knicks have, resigning Lee AND getting under the cap will be tough. Furthermore, if the Knicks get lucky and win a top draft pick, I'd prefer to develop a nucleus of guys at the same time.

Knicks have to be smart about David Lee's situation. He deserves whatever money he gets.......with that said the Knicks have to make a decision. If the Knicks keep him they MUST start him. If that's the case that also means the Knicks have to build around him in the front court.

That's definately not a bad thing. The Knicks are in transition. Whatever they do now they have to stick with the plan. Nobody on this earth is expecting the Knicks to do anything along the lines of winning for the next 2-3 seasons. If David Lee is gonna be the man......then make it so. If not then move on.

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Me wanting to trade Lee (and Nate) for a pick has little to do with him as a player. The logic is simple: The Knicks are trying to get under the cap to make a free agent run. With the nightmarish contracts the Knicks have, resigning Lee AND getting under the cap will be tough. Furthermore, if the Knicks get lucky and win a top draft pick, I'd prefer to develop a nucleus of guys at the same time.

That is my thinking too. Lee is a good player, but he is never going to be a superstar and his defense is only so-so. While I would like to keep him, he is going to command $7-$10 million per year on the open market and we will need to extend him next year. Trade him for a pick and we avoid paying him and will save about $6-$8 million off our salary cap in 2010.

I think the dynamics of the Knicks have to change and at the same time we need to save cap room.

I think the NY Knicks hurt themselves with the need for *known* commodities. We have a bunch of name players who make a ton of money. We have to try to systematically get rid of most of the players and change the system and at the same time make sure we save cap space. I know some team will offer David Lee 42-45mm next year. If th Knicks match it--the cap space gig is done. So If The Knicks hve the cahones to do what Jerry west did--and I mean go off the board witha known commdity [shane battier] for pick 7[rudy gay] Remember how shaky Rudy Gay looked at the end of his sophmore year. A true raw talent but nothing guaranteed--and now the guy is on the threshold of greatness already. The Knicks need the same foresight and cahnones as Jerry West. Trade Lee for pick 6-7 and take either Mcgee or Randolph to pair with either Westbrook OR Rose. If we get Beasley trade Lee high enough to get Westbrook. Nothing against david Lee- this franchise needs to make a dynamic change.

Posted by TheGame:

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Me wanting to trade Lee (and Nate) for a pick has little to do with him as a player. The logic is simple: The Knicks are trying to get under the cap to make a free agent run. With the nightmarish contracts the Knicks have, resigning Lee AND getting under the cap will be tough. Furthermore, if the Knicks get lucky and win a top draft pick, I'd prefer to develop a nucleus of guys at the same time.

That is my thinking too. Lee is a good player, but he is never going to be a superstar and his defense is only so-so. While I would like to keep him, he is going to command $7-$10 million per year on the open market and we will need to extend him next year. Trade him for a pick and we avoid paying him and will save about $6-$8 million off our salary cap in 2010.

This is the whole point. King's logic is correct, but so are these points. I think it boils down to whether Donnie has reason to believe he can land one of the top free agents who will become available at that time. He probably know some things regarding this situation that we don't and shouldn't know.

Funny, fans often love the idea of a pick because it represents hope of finding a new player, and it represents change.

DLee as an asset paired with a contract could yield very nice return, but he is a fan favorite and a pretty good player.

Keep the kid, I think even paired with Curry they were pretty good last year.

Trade Zdump. Please.

Posted by fishmike:

what pick? #2? Maybe then.. who wants to trade Lee for a pick? I dont *want* to trade Lee at all, but am willing to part if it helps us gut this core. If you package Lee w/ Zach for a big expiring contract and a pick back then OK

How about Lee and Zach for Vince Carter and pick #10??? I would do that
How about then sending Curry to Phili for Dalembert? maybe include a #1 we buy for cash later?

moves moves gut gut

that is a decent plan.. vince can be a stop gap at SG with jamal off the bench.... the top 10 pick would be nice...

It is a shame we may have to use lee to get rid of the mess that Isiah has saddled us with.. just a shame.... I don't want to get rid of lee, but how else do we dump curry, zach, And Q?

Posted by bitty41:

Wait what is the point of listing the Roy, Foye, Aldridge draft>? You compare that to Lee's own draft class with Deron Williams, Danny Granger, Chris Paul, Marvin Willams, Andrew Bogut, Klieza. Look some drafts are crappy, some are okay, and some are great. David Lee isn't some superstar he is average player on a very bad team so this organization would be foolish not to listen to every offer that comes their way. If you could move David Lee along with one of our crappy contracts for a mid first rounder and a shorter contract I say do it.

I agree and Zach is the first one of the crappy contracts I'd look to move. It's a shame that we have to lose a nice young player like Lee just to get rid of Zach or Eddy.