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Isiah was planning to get under the cap for 2010 too!
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Bonn1997
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4/4/2008  7:11 AM
Thomas confirmed the Post's report that, whether Walsh was in power or not, the club's chief goal is to make an attempt to get under the cap for 2010 when the Cavaliers' James is free.

"I think we understand 2010 is an important year and we've all been targeting that year," Thomas said.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04042008/sports/knicks/knicks_new_boss__marbury_a_key_player_104990.htm?page=2
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4/4/2008  7:53 AM
Must be why he traded for Zach and his albatross contract that extends past 2010. Or maybe like his assertion that the NBA is phasing out the big man, he didn't come to that realization until after he had already burdened the team with Curry and Zach.

It's always been about self preservation for Isiah. He'll agree with anyone with power over him and he'll say anything he feels he needs to say in order to keep the fat paychecks coming or save his already destroyed reputation. It's funny watching him squirm. He knows he desperately needs a saving face position within the organization because he'll never get another job in the NBA without it. Plus if he can keep sucking up to Dolan, his personal Golden Goose, there's always the chance that he can squeeze another contract extension from him.

Isiah is like Jon Lovitz' old SNL character, the Pathological Liar. Donnie better do the right thing because there's no good reason to keep Isiah and nothing changes until he's completely gone.
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4/4/2008  7:53 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Thomas confirmed the Post's report that, whether Walsh was in power or not, the club's chief goal is to make an attempt to get under the cap for 2010 when the Cavaliers' James is free.

"I think we understand 2010 is an important year and we've all been targeting that year," Thomas said.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04042008/sports/knicks/knicks_new_boss__marbury_a_key_player_104990.htm?page=2


If that is the case why is Zach Randolph on this team? We owe the guy over 17mm alone in 2010. I don't think it will be easy to move those players on the list. Eddy and Zach alone make 28mm. Jamal makes 10mm if he does not opt out and why would he unless he is going elsewhere--he is due to make 20mm over 2009-2011. Jefferies is NOT opting out and that is 7mm more--that is 4 players who bring us to45mm alone only 4 players on the roster. The only feasible avenue is trading curry and Crawford[or letting him walk]???? because the big Zach isnt going anyplace and Jefferies is not going anywhere. Now what team is going to take Curry's 10mm without making us take 10mm back? Oh yes--forget about resigning D Lee he will cost easily 7-8mm per Nate 4-5mm This is almost an unrealistic goal.

Honestly to do this they would have to trade Lee Crawford and possibly Nate for ending contracts and picks. If Zach is left and we promise to Curry or Jefferies to redo their contract if they opt out--then there will be room. That Randolph albatros proves Isiah has NO intention of 2010 FA---no question--he is lying again.
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4/4/2008  7:56 AM
The only way they can trade Zach or Eddy is to package Lee with them. Which I happen to be fine with. Lee is a nice role player but he's eminently replaceable. That'll just be one less contract on the books for 2010.
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4/4/2008  8:08 AM
Posted by islesfan:

The only way they can trade Zach or Eddy is to package Lee with them. Which I happen to be fine with. Lee is a nice role player but he's eminently replaceable. That'll just be one less contract on the books for 2010.

Zach makes way to much $$ to do anything with and Curry is close. Thats banking on something that may be unrealistic
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4/4/2008  8:22 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:

The only way they can trade Zach or Eddy is to package Lee with them. Which I happen to be fine with. Lee is a nice role player but he's eminently replaceable. That'll just be one less contract on the books for 2010.

Zach makes way to much $$ to do anything with and Curry is close. Thats banking on something that may be unrealistic

They almost found a taker in Milwaukee at the trade deadline, maybe they can find another sucker, especially as we get closer to the summer of 2010 and Zach isn't owed quite as much or if we can sweeten the pot with someone like Lee.

Curry can probably be traded more easily than Zach right now. Then hope that Zach can put up numbers to make him attractive to a team when he only has a year or 2 remaining on his contract.

Donnie needs to:

1) maximize the next 2 lottery picks and drafts in general
2) trade Curry and Zach
3) let Marbury expire or buy him out
4) try to acquire cheap role players who have upside
5) FIRE ISIAH

If he can do those things, they have a great chance to sign a superstar and have good young players to surround him with in a couple of years. That's a lot to ask for and it'll require a great deal of skill and luck but it's not impossible.
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4/4/2008  8:36 AM
It might have been the plan after December when he realized this team was not going to work, but was not the plan this summer or else he would not have gotten Randolph.

[Edited by - thegame on 04-04-2008 08:37]
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4/4/2008  8:37 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:

The only way they can trade Zach or Eddy is to package Lee with them. Which I happen to be fine with. Lee is a nice role player but he's eminently replaceable. That'll just be one less contract on the books for 2010.

Zach makes way to much $$ to do anything with and Curry is close. Thats banking on something that may be unrealistic

They almost found a taker in Milwaukee at the trade deadline, maybe they can find another sucker, especially as we get closer to the summer of 2010 and Zach isn't owed quite as much or if we can sweeten the pot with someone like Lee.

Curry can probably be traded more easily than Zach right now. Then hope that Zach can put up numbers to make him attractive to a team when he only has a year or 2 remaining on his contract.

Donnie needs to:

1) maximize the next 2 lottery picks and drafts in general
2) trade Curry and Zach
3) let Marbury expire or buy him out
4) try to acquire cheap role players who have upside
5) FIRE ISIAH

If he can do those things, they have a great chance to sign a superstar and have good young players to surround him with in a couple of years. That's a lot to ask for and it'll require a great deal of skill and luck but it's not impossible.

--->They almost found a taker in Milwaukee at the trade deadline,

yes for equal loot and worse players and the trade wasnt close as the owner declined it although with the same $$ coming back--what did it matter anyway>?
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4/4/2008  8:38 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:

The only way they can trade Zach or Eddy is to package Lee with them. Which I happen to be fine with. Lee is a nice role player but he's eminently replaceable. That'll just be one less contract on the books for 2010.

Zach makes way to much $$ to do anything with and Curry is close. Thats banking on something that may be unrealistic

They almost found a taker in Milwaukee at the trade deadline, maybe they can find another sucker, especially as we get closer to the summer of 2010 and Zach isn't owed quite as much or if we can sweeten the pot with someone like Lee.

Curry can probably be traded more easily than Zach right now. Then hope that Zach can put up numbers to make him attractive to a team when he only has a year or 2 remaining on his contract.

Donnie needs to:

1) maximize the next 2 lottery picks and drafts in general
2) trade Curry and Zach
3) let Marbury expire or buy him out
4) try to acquire cheap role players who have upside
5) FIRE ISIAH

If he can do those things, they have a great chance to sign a superstar and have good young players to surround him with in a couple of years. That's a lot to ask for and it'll require a great deal of skill and luck but it's not impossible.

I agree. Curry is tradeable. In fact, we might actually be able to get a mid to high 1st round pick for him. If Walsh can trade Randolph without us getting hosed, then he would have to be GM of the year. If we make those two moves, we should be able to get under the cap by 2010.
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4/4/2008  8:50 AM
I think Curry can be traded now. There must be at least 1 team that can use a one dimensional center if paired with a good power forward who can take care of the interior defense and rebounding.

Zach will most likely have to stay until he's owed less and his contract becomes more tradeable. Next summer or at the 2010 trade deadline maybe. It's imperative that he's gone by the summer of 2010 though.
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4/4/2008  9:21 AM
we also might have a high lottery pick next year and its possible we could move zach then with the pick--I dont see another great scenario unless Dallas would want him.
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4/4/2008  9:30 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

we also might have a high lottery pick next year and its possible we could move zach then with the pick--I dont see another great scenario unless Dallas would want him.

I can see Dallas using a player like either Zach or Curry- but who exactly comes back in that deal?

Dampier is about the only player with big bucks who is tradeable- I mean, we're not getting Dirk in that deal.

Maybe if they decide the Kidd experiment was a failure?
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4/4/2008  9:48 AM
Isiah, as usual, is completely full of crap and trying to save face after having his ass replaced behind his back.

You can bet that Isiah was salivating at having the chance to use Marbury and/or Malik's 09 expiring, our lotto pick, and probably one of the kids - in order to acquire "a franchise cornerstone".

Take your pick of Artest + loads of kings overpriced garbage --- Gilbert Arenas max-resigned --- probably even Darius Miles and more Portland crap.


Anyone who truly believes anything Isiah has to say is a complete and total lost cause.

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4/4/2008  10:15 AM
I think it's pretty obvious that Isiah doesn't even know what the salary cap is.
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4/4/2008  10:19 AM
I've been saying this line for well over 2mos now...


AS IF BY DESIGN


This guy is terrible. Iyamwutiam tried to spin this same crap on here. Like I SAY UGH was master planning for this. Zach was a dead give away he didn't care then. Also what about the attempts of trading for Carter, trading for Artest when we know we needed to give him a new deal and admitting he tried to get Pau Gasol this summer, and remember we were after Lewis according to Herb Williams?
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4/4/2008  10:41 AM
Hey, Earl.

It ain't your money.

Pass the donuts.
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4/4/2008  2:00 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Must be why he traded for Zach and his albatross contract that extends past 2010. Or maybe like his assertion that the NBA is phasing out the big man, he didn't come to that realization until after he had already burdened the team with Curry and Zach.

It's always been about self preservation for Isiah. He'll agree with anyone with power over him and he'll say anything he feels he needs to say in order to keep the fat paychecks coming or save his already destroyed reputation. It's funny watching him squirm. He knows he desperately needs a saving face position within the organization because he'll never get another job in the NBA without it. Plus if he can keep sucking up to Dolan, his personal Golden Goose, there's always the chance that he can squeeze another contract extension from him.

Isiah is like Jon Lovitz' old SNL character, the Pathological Liar. Donnie better do the right thing because there's no good reason to keep Isiah and nothing changes until he's completely gone.
Yeah, I posted this for its comedic value. Isiah's getting desperate!
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4/4/2008  2:01 PM
Posted by islesfan:

The only way they can trade Zach or Eddy is to package Lee with them. Which I happen to be fine with. Lee is a nice role player but he's eminently replaceable. That'll just be one less contract on the books for 2010.

I don't think adding Lee is enough to get a team to take Zach. It would be enough to get a team to take Eddy, though. I think you have to include our lottery pick if you want a team to take Zach.
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4/4/2008  2:12 PM
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4/4/2008  2:47 PM
Posted by Panos:

Hey, Earl.

It ain't your money.

Pass the donuts.

Panos - you are correct once again sir. If you are content to wait until 2010-11 for The Chosen One... or Wise, I have no problem whatsoever with that point of view. Under or over the cap, this basketball business is just so darn unpredictible and there is talent to be mined in some unexpected places like the roster of Armani Milan, USC or The University of Memphis.

Speaking of donuts, I understand Mark Jackson likes 'em glazed.

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Isiah was planning to get under the cap for 2010 too!

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