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i wouldn't be surprised if we move marbury for jermaine
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djsunyc
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4/2/2008  4:38 PM
helps out indy
helps out ny
and still keeps flexibility down the road...

i think that's trade #1...
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4/2/2008  4:40 PM
He's just gonna make us marginally better. We'll get the 9th or 10th instead of a top 3 lottery pick for the next few years. No thanks. Take back long-term deals only for players who you want to be part of the long-term picture.
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4/2/2008  4:41 PM
as long as we dont have to take back any bad deals for him
i think they might want to package tinsley with him
and in that case we'd have to give rose to do so
i'd rather give them zbo or jjefries
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Posted by Bonn1997:

He's just gonna make us marginally better. We'll get the 9th or 10th instead of a top 3 lottery pick for the next few years. No thanks. Take back long-term deals only for players who you want to be part of the long-term picture.

his deal is the same as steph
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Posted by Siar617:
Posted by Bonn1997:

He's just gonna make us marginally better. We'll get the 9th or 10th instead of a top 3 lottery pick for the next few years. No thanks. Take back long-term deals only for players who you want to be part of the long-term picture.

his deal is the same as steph

he has 1 more year than steph's...that's why i suggested it.

it saves indy a ton of money. dolan will "use resources" like stern/walsh stated.

bonn, it's not about the caliber of player in o'neil, it's about changing the environment here and getting rid of the junk.

jermaine is a good guy and a smart individual. he also fills somewhat of a void and the committment is only 2 years (1 more than steph).

i would say this has 25% chance of happening (which is very high).
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4/2/2008  4:44 PM
Posted by Siar617:
Posted by Bonn1997:

He's just gonna make us marginally better. We'll get the 9th or 10th instead of a top 3 lottery pick for the next few years. No thanks. Take back long-term deals only for players who you want to be part of the long-term picture.

his deal is the same as steph

except 1 year longer. But not in that crucial 2010 year/summer when the knicks hope for cap room.
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4/2/2008  4:46 PM
DJ, what else would be exchanged? NY is gotta get a draft pick or something.
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4/2/2008  4:49 PM
Posted by martin:

DJ, what else would be exchanged? NY is gotta get a draft pick or something.

that's it.

it's a simple deal and it helps his old boss and his new boss. nothing else needs to be involved...maybe indy gives us a 2nd rounder but that's it. no need for more.
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Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by martin:

DJ, what else would be exchanged? NY is gotta get a draft pick or something.

that's it.

it's a simple deal and it helps his old boss and his new boss. nothing else needs to be involved...maybe indy gives us a 2nd rounder but that's it. no need for more.

I need more!

Lee, Zbo, ONeil. Lots of PFs.

Curry, ONeil, ZBo. Lots of post players.
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Posted by martin:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by martin:

DJ, what else would be exchanged? NY is gotta get a draft pick or something.

that's it.

it's a simple deal and it helps his old boss and his new boss. nothing else needs to be involved...maybe indy gives us a 2nd rounder but that's it. no need for more.

I need more!

Lee, Zbo, ONeil. Lots of PFs.

zbo will be moved too. but i'm just talking about this deal - and i see it having a very good chance of happening.
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4/2/2008  5:02 PM
I wouldn't mind but then Donnie would have to move the Big Caca eddy curry.

I wouldn't mind if he tried to get former Indiana players, like al harrington either......whatever you know? Just make some moves and improve the team.

In Donnie we trust.
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4/2/2008  5:07 PM
I'd be down for a move like that.
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Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by martin:

DJ, what else would be exchanged? NY is gotta get a draft pick or something.

that's it.

it's a simple deal and it helps his old boss and his new boss. nothing else needs to be involved...maybe indy gives us a 2nd rounder but that's it. no need for more.

DJ in the clutch again.......this idea makes tons of sense serously.

Can you turn Q into a doggie and maybe malik or jerome james into a sword or funny hat.
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4/2/2008  5:29 PM
malik stays...
jerome's waived...
quentin...maybe trade him to the clippers for cutty ranks?
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4/2/2008  5:37 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

malik stays...
jerome's waived...
quentin...maybe trade him to the clippers for cutty ranks?

"Limb by limb we have fi cut dem down!!!"

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Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by djsunyc:

malik stays...
jerome's waived...
quentin...maybe trade him to the clippers for cutty ranks?

"Limb by limb we have fi cut dem down!!!"

da stop...stop...stop...stoppah...
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4/2/2008  5:54 PM
send zbo to the cavs for wally
we dont need anything in return but an expiring deal
portlad got the best of us we need to do the same to
someone else
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4/2/2008  6:03 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Siar617:
Posted by Bonn1997:

He's just gonna make us marginally better. We'll get the 9th or 10th instead of a top 3 lottery pick for the next few years. No thanks. Take back long-term deals only for players who you want to be part of the long-term picture.

his deal is the same as steph

he has 1 more year than steph's...that's why i suggested it.

it saves indy a ton of money. dolan will "use resources" like stern/walsh stated.

bonn, it's not about the caliber of player in o'neil, it's about changing the environment here and getting rid of the junk.

jermaine is a good guy and a smart individual. he also fills somewhat of a void and the committment is only 2 years (1 more than steph).

i would say this has 25% chance of happening (which is very high).
If we're spending $ forty million (Jermaine's salary plus luxury tax), we have to get someone who is part of the long-term solution out of it. If we're taking back that kind of salary, we need to get at least one young, two-way player. I'd rather stink next year and get a better pick than have Jermaine. Change the culture by buying out the contracts of the players who have hurt the culture. Or suspend them or send them home if Dolan won't let you buy them out.
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4/2/2008  6:14 PM
Bonn we gotta give to receive.....good young two way players? Only player I can think of on that team is Shawne Williams.....and he's gangsta. He could hitch a ride over with Jermaine. Shawne Williams is a stephen jackson clone.
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4/2/2008  6:17 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Bonn we gotta give to receive.....good young two way players? Only player I can think of on that team is Shawne Williams.....and he's gangsta. He could hitch a ride over with Jermaine. Shawne Williams is a stephen jackson clone.

I didn't say *great*; I said *good*. I'd rather have a young 2 way player who's gonna be nothing more than a 6th or 7th man than JO.
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