Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by 30andOverClub:
a. Lee wanting 5 years, $50MM is an assumption with no basis.
b. Lee is still under contract next year for $1.7MM and then gets a qualifying offer the year after.
c. To say that the only valid comparisons between David and Josh are points and rebounds is ludicrous. Boone is an atrocious free throw shooter while David is excellent. He's also a much better passer, especially with his outlet passes which are some of the best in the game. He's a leader, hard worker, and an excellent spokesperson and role model for the team.
I mean, in their first respective years, Boone shot 54.4% from the free throw line and David 57.7%. Not much of a difference. David's has climbed to 82.2% while Boone's has dropped to an abysmal 46.0%. And that's with Boone going to the line MORE this year meaning he should be practicing on it more. Lee adds something to his game year after year, getting better year after year. Why do you trade a player like that?
Use Malik's expiring, Nate, and Balkman to try to get a mid-first rounder. Keep Lee.
That is fine and dandy. It kind of pains me to be using the best Knick as an example but these are hard times. I disagree with you that they are significantly different players. I have to ask myself in these hard times what can I do to make a difference to radically change what is going on here. It does sck but the only guy with true value is Lee---no one wants to get rid of Lee--but if I believe I can make the team better in the future by trading Lee--and I mean taking what I can get for him--what I can get rid of in addition to him and what I can take off or *keep* off of my cap at this point is also a strategic route. Only a reasonable manager would keep all options open with this putrid stench of a team.
These are hard times with a window in front of us. Stop leaving out all of the facts, when you make these suggestions about getting rid of Lee. Why don't you do it to get rid of Balkman, Nate or Collins. Guys like you always going after Lee. Why?
The open window that is before us means we have a possible top draft pick, with a few good pieces on our team right now (main one being Lee) and starbury and Rose going out the door after next year. I say let those contracts run out, unless the next GM can somehow get draft picks for them, for next' year. That's two poitives and two minuses, adds up to four positives. If you get rid of Lee for another draft pick, then we'll only have to spend another two years developing someone 'we already have'.
Point being, always' stick with your best pieces. Lee has worked hard and has proven he belongs. Plus he's now experienced as a Knick. You get rid of him, then you end up with someone who has no experience here. Why do it? Our other chance is a top notch pick. A shot at either Beasley, Rose or Lopez is very possible. That would be a huge pick up and someone like Lee who's is obviously staying will be a very valuable asset in our picks growth. With starbury and Malik leaving us soon, that gives us some cap relief and maybe by then, dolan would be willing to buy out another contract and let the new GM go for a major trade, for a star player.
Okay, that above is just one possibliltiy. But it is an example of what can be and that is one of the ways you do it. You don't do it by giving away your proven players.
I'll never trust this' team again.
3/29/2008 1:12 AM