OT: J.R. Smith Does a Stark Like Move
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4949
Posts: 29378 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/25/2006 Member: #1126 USA |
3/27/2008 11:49 PM
22, will be 23 on September 9th.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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4949
Posts: 29378 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/25/2006 Member: #1126 USA |
3/28/2008 12:02 AM
[Edited by - 4949 on 03-28-2008 12:18 AM] I'll never trust this' team again.
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franco12
Posts: 34069 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 2/19/2004 Member: #599 USA |
3/28/2008 8:11 AM
Posted by 4949: the only way we get him for the MLE is if Denver doesn't want to resign him due to character issues or can't find a S&T for him And no other team with more room wants him. He is playing tremendous ball - he is becoming a kobe bryant type player. I don't know if he can sign an extension for a max #- but if you thought he was good enough, we could offer up Marb's contract in a S&T- if his agent couldn't find more money elsewhere, then they would basically force Denver to take it- we might have to throw in a Balkman or Chandler- but then what would be the need with JR coming here? |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
3/28/2008 8:36 AM
Posted by franco12:Posted by 4949: Denver will have to pay a dollar for dollar tax to resign him--they are at 77MM salary level for *next year* with only 8 players under contract. If you frontload it--you are making them pay nearly 12mm + to keep JR next year not including atleast 4-5 more if they sign all minimum salary players. He's an absolute perfetc target--we need a big athletic SG who can actually shoot and he is really coming in to his own at the age of 22. RIP Crushalot😞
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Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
3/28/2008 8:44 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:Posted by franco12:Posted by 4949: I doubt they'd pass on a young player as promising as him just to save $12 mil. That may sound like a lot of money to us, but that's about how much the average NBA player costs when you include the luxury tax. |
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
3/28/2008 8:47 AM
Posted by BRIGGS: Jr Smith didn't hurt anything. If anybody offers any highschool senior wiz a job on wall street, he goes no questions asked. But when an basketball player is gifted athletically he should stay in school and forfeit money for himself and make school for the university. If the NBA spent more investing time shaping up highschool ball players instead of telling the talented ones to stay in school the players would possibly be more mature. If Tony Parker and Jose Calderon etc... can play pro ball as a teenager in their european leagues and learn the game and make MONEY why not allow highschool players in america the same.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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Bonn1997
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3/28/2008 8:49 AM
Why does a guy as athletic as he is get no rebounds or assists?
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
3/28/2008 8:51 AM
he plays on the perimmiter and he's a designated shooter on the team with ballhandlers like AI and Melo who gets a pass to assit unless it's a interior pass to a big man for a dunk or layup
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
3/28/2008 8:52 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:Posted by BRIGGS:Posted by franco12:Posted by 4949: I don't think so--when your salary structure enters a zone where you are paying a $-$ tax--payroll can get out of hand. They are there this year and would have to substantially up the ante to retain him and fill out the roster. It's more than just 12mm$ were talking 20-24mm RIP Crushalot😞
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Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
3/28/2008 8:53 AM
Posted by playa2: OK, that makes sense for the assists. I'd still expect him to be grabbing more defensive rebounds though. |
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TrueBlue
Posts: 29144 Alba Posts: 12 Joined: 9/20/2006 Member: #1172 |
3/28/2008 10:02 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:Posted by BRIGGS:Posted by franco12:Posted by 4949: Why do we think we can low bargain our way to success for every player we want? I guess with our MLE we're going to get or we'll target Ron Artest Beno Calderon J.R.Smith Pietrus Gerald Green LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
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TrueBlue
Posts: 29144 Alba Posts: 12 Joined: 9/20/2006 Member: #1172 |
3/28/2008 10:08 AM
J.R.'s value will only increase if Denver makes the playoffs.
LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
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purple012870
Posts: 21778 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/16/2003 Member: #432 |
3/28/2008 10:15 AM
To put it simply: We need to avoid filling out the roster with selfish, bad character players.
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Solace
Posts: 30002 Alba Posts: 20 Joined: 10/30/2003 Member: #479 USA |
3/28/2008 10:18 AM
Posted by playa2: That has to be an extreme rarity. At every job I've ever worked at, minimum requirement for any skilled positions were a bachelor's degree, unless you're an intern. The justification of college is that right now a lot of NBA players act immature, especially the younger ones, and that their games are not fully refined when they hit the NBA, so they sit on the bench and often their confidence takes a significant hit. Would four years of college help that? I think the answer is yes. The idea isn't perfect, but it's more than reasonable when you consider the negative image of the league as a whole. Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
3/28/2008 10:27 AM
Whena highschooler's family is living in poverty or near to it, you are saying for the sake of the NBA go to college and help the well off universities make more money off of you. If the NBA wasn't in bed with the NCAA, THE NBDL would be the league of choice for many ball players who thinks college is not for them. If universites had higher requirements and standards for their student athletes who can't speak read or write correctly that would be the league of choice. Young players learning innthe minor league while getting paid making a living like tennis players , hockey players etc... .
[Edited by - playa2 on 28-03-2008 10:32]
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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