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EnySpree
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3/27/2008  10:17 AM
I turned the game off as soon as the Knicks won......but this morning I'm watching msgny. I see David Lee addressed the crowd. He thanked the crowd for coming out and baring with them.

David Lee always does this since he's been a Knick. I don't think anyone forces or asks him to say it. I just think the dude feels in his heart the words he says.

He always says "go knicks" at the end of his interviews. This guy has had a raw deal playing under Isiah. The guy is a good player and an honorable dude. If he can be spared some how, I would like David Lee to be locked into the starting line-up @ the 4.

Nuff respect David Lee.
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3/27/2008  10:22 AM
I saw it- he basically got asked a question and then went right in to his thanking the crowd for coming out.

Lee is a leader.

We need more players like him- regardless of their talent level, outside shot or defense. He works hard every day, every minute on the court.
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3/27/2008  11:14 AM
Lee is the man. He is the only player I would keep on this team. It's too bad we're probabally going to have to move him to get rid of some of our trash or to get a decent player in here.
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3/27/2008  11:38 AM
I saw that. Lee is a good guy, a good player, and a leader. It shows how strong of an individual he is, to hold his head up in a season of embarrasment..... this team lacks a lot of things, but it definately lacks more guys like him.......
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3/27/2008  11:40 AM
Yeah man he is the leader......he is leading himself though. Everyone else is on their own.

I watch Pheonix playing the Celtics, and the cavs vs. The hornets.......all I see are a bunch of david lees. I can see it in their faces. The hustle and love for the ****in game. The pride.

I just threw up all over myself.......
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3/27/2008  12:08 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Yeah man he is the leader......he is leading himself though. Everyone else is on their own.

I watch Pheonix playing the Celtics, and the cavs vs. The hornets.......all I see are a bunch of david lees. I can see it in their faces. The hustle and love for the ****in game. The pride.

I just threw up all over myself.......

cheeto puke?
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3/27/2008  12:13 PM
Lee is a class act and ironically, the only thing Lee can thank isiah for is 'for drafting him'. The real talent will be un-leashed soon enough and all will be good. This is the attitude of a good leader, a future winner. He never gives up, just follows right through and doesn't complain. He'll always be ready for the right time to come along and won't waste his energy on the negative things that have been going on. You don't find that in too many players and that's the kind of player you like to build with.

We definately need to find some new additions to add to this kind of player and build a winning attitude. Thus translating into more wins, happier fans, less controversey, more respect and more interest from future stars to play for us. In only his third year, I can already see him as a future coach and maybe even a GM. Go Knicks.
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3/27/2008  12:19 PM
Posted by 4949:

Lee is a class act and ironically, the only thing Lee can thank isiah for is 'for drafting him'. The real talent will be un-leashed soon enough and all will be good. This is the attitude of a good leader, a future winner. He never gives up, just follows right through and doesn't complain. He'll always be ready for the right time to come along and won't waste his energy on the negative things that have been going on. You don't find that in too many players and that's the kind of player you like to build with.

We definately need to find some new additions to add to this kind of player and build a winning attitude. Thus translating into more wins, happier fans, less controversey, more respect and more interest from future stars to play for us. In only his third year, I can already see him as a future coach and maybe even a GM. Go Knicks.


good post..
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3/27/2008  12:25 PM
Word man.....in the name of David Lee! Go Knicks!!!
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3/27/2008  12:44 PM
All David wants to do is win New York. He loves the city and the fans, and he realizes if they can get this right, that New York is the place to be.
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3/27/2008  12:53 PM
Lee has also become Isiah's mouthpiece before and after games sounding just like Crawful now so I don't quite see how he's "the man".

I like Lee but he rushes to rebound by virtue of leaving his man early in plays. He is an atrocious defender. He needs to hit the weights. He simply cannot be a starter in this league on a winning team with such an undeveloped offensive game and a nonexistant defensive game.

David Lee has a lot of work to do and even then I see him being a serviceable-to-solid bench player for a good team in the future but not a starter on a championship contender.

We definitely overrate and overvalue Lee and the bottom line is that he's doing it on a bad team filled with passionateless scum.
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3/27/2008  1:03 PM
Yea, but lets trade him for a draft pick or say we need zach at the beginning of the season. He is one of the best at his position in the entire league, period.

Anyone who even mentioned moving this kid for a pick needs to leave this site for good.
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3/27/2008  1:06 PM
Posted by MS:

Yea, but lets trade him for a draft pick or say we need zach at the beginning of the season. He is one of the best at his position in the entire league, period.

Anyone who even mentioned moving this kid for a pick needs to leave this site for good.


There's no reason to move David Lee for a pick. He's a player who has upside, he does work hard and wants to win, and his game is improving. I just think we overrate his potential ceiling and impact that's all.

In 3 years David Lee, if he continues to improve, will be a very nice sixth man on a 50 win team. He won't be a starter on a 50 win team unless you're talking about one of the very rare circumstances where he'd be starting next to one of "A" Duncan or Shaq "like player".


Got to put things into context and right now he's a relatively bright spot on a very very bad team. Put today's David Lee on one of the 50+win teams? He'd be a serviceable sixth man. In a few years he'd be a solid sixth man in such a situation.

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3/27/2008  1:14 PM
Posted by Cosmic:

Lee has also become Isiah's mouthpiece before and after games sounding just like Crawful now so I don't quite see how he's "the man".

I like Lee but he rushes to rebound by virtue of leaving his man early in plays. He is an atrocious defender. He needs to hit the weights. He simply cannot be a starter in this league on a winning team with such an undeveloped offensive game and a nonexistant defensive game.

David Lee has a lot of work to do and even then I see him being a serviceable-to-solid bench player for a good team in the future but not a starter on a championship contender.

We definitely overrate and overvalue Lee and the bottom line is that he's doing it on a bad team filled with passionateless scum.

I agree wholeheartedly.

Lee apologizing is just lame propaganda like Crawford's "I'm sorry for Boston" BS. Man STFU and do your talking on the court.
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3/27/2008  2:43 PM
David Lee would be a better GM than Isiah, RIGHT NOW.

Oh yeah we overvalue him? Then whyd he score 30 pts, 11bds and 4 asts to win the 2007 MVP of the Rookie-Sophomore game? Sure that's not great, per say. But it's an indicator that if he was playing on a team WORTH playing for, and for a coach who didn't dislike him because of the color of his skin, he may be playing differently.

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3/27/2008  2:56 PM
Posted by Cosmic:

Lee has also become Isiah's mouthpiece before and after games sounding just like Crawful now so I don't quite see how he's "the man".

I like Lee but he rushes to rebound by virtue of leaving his man early in plays. He is an atrocious defender. He needs to hit the weights. He simply cannot be a starter in this league on a winning team with such an undeveloped offensive game and a nonexistant defensive game.

David Lee has a lot of work to do and even then I see him being a serviceable-to-solid bench player for a good team in the future but not a starter on a championship contender.

We definitely overrate and overvalue Lee and the bottom line is that he's doing it on a bad team filled with passionateless scum.

This is what doom and negative seasons do to a person. Cosmic, we need a positive start somewhere' on this team and Lee is the perfect guy to do it with. One says we over value him and another says we should trade him, while he's valuable?

So what is it that you guys are saying exactly? You certainly can't say he sucks!
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3/27/2008  3:03 PM
Posted by Cosmic:

Lee has also become Isiah's mouthpiece before and after games sounding just like Crawful now so I don't quite see how he's "the man".

I like Lee but he rushes to rebound by virtue of leaving his man early in plays. He is an atrocious defender. He needs to hit the weights. He simply cannot be a starter in this league on a winning team with such an undeveloped offensive game and a nonexistant defensive game.

David Lee has a lot of work to do and even then I see him being a serviceable-to-solid bench player for a good team in the future but not a starter on a championship contender.

We definitely overrate and overvalue Lee and the bottom line is that he's doing it on a bad team filled with passionateless scum.

Lee deserves credit but our fan base tends to overrate his value to the team and his character. Look he's a good guy and a hard worker but he isn't the kind of leader that will change the others around him. I already pointed out how Lee is just as guilty of being a follower than a leader. Just because you thank the fans for their patience it doesn't make you a leader, it makes you a compassionate person with a good quality. Lee has been just like the rest in making excuses and pointing blame in the other direction. I guess it's cool he's acknowledging the fan base but Jamal Crawford did the exact same thing to open the season and how did he proceed to play this season and how did he get others to play this season? It's funny how good guys like these get love from the fans to the point they're looked upon as leaders yet they don't lead their teammates in a way that shows they're example is being followed.
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3/27/2008  3:16 PM
Posted by Cosmic:

In 3 years David Lee, if he continues to improve, will be a very nice sixth man on a 50 win team. He won't be a starter on a 50 win team unless you're talking about one of the very rare circumstances where he'd be starting next to one of "A" Duncan or Shaq "like player".

Well' wouldn't that go for any hard working NBA player in the entire league? If you put him next to a superstar? The bulls certainly where nothing without jordan, back in the 90's. That's been proven already. Where Pippen and the others overated while jordan was gone? No, they weren't. The Knicks one chance to win a championship that year, barely' got past' the jordanless bulls only to be struck down by Houston.

Lee does not deserve to come off the bench. He's earned a starting spot in his second year, only to be taken away by Zach, via isiah. And Lee hasn't been a full time starter so far either, because he hasn't been given the opportunity. In 196 games he's played, he's only started 45 of them. And that's out of approximately 214 potential games, not including the games he's missed, because of injury last year.

With that said, a player needs the time in to play through it all on a regular basis. I contend that Lee has not had that opportunity, thus won't have the chance to develop into the kind of player he is capable of. I would even say that if Lee started every game and if Zach came off the bench, you'd see a whole diffrent story on their statistics. If defense is all your talking about then Zach is as guilty also.

[Edited by - 4949 on 03-27-2008 3:19 PM]
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3/27/2008  3:31 PM
There is no way anyone could be a leader on this team. You have too big of idiots on the team and coaching staff. Lee may be over valued but I guarntee if they let him become unrestricted next year about 20 teams will want him.
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3/27/2008  3:39 PM
Glad you posted this Eny, I saw that and was impressed too. Sure, a cynic might say it's smart marketing for himself but most don't bother, and it addresses a need Knick fans have for players that appear to care.

In fairness, I believe Jamal and Nate, as well as Steph, have addressed the crowd before in a somewhat similar way, with Jamal being one that I remember apologized earlier this year, I think, after a win.

There is little question he is one of the keepers, unless something golden is available.
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