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simrud
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3/22/2008  5:45 PM
I think we all need to get real about tanking.

Every team does it to get a higher lottery pick, every year. SA did it to get Duncan, Rockets did it to get Hakim back in the day. And the list goes on.

Tanking is the way one single best way to get top notch talent in the NBA. The point of whether the NBA is a joke for it is irrelevant. When you are in the game, you play by the rules.
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3/22/2008  5:57 PM
Tanking is the only way to guarantee more lottery balls...you don't necessarily get the #1 thru #3 pick. You can buy one-million lottery tickets and never win ANYTHING.

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3/22/2008  6:31 PM
basically, u ain't got balls unless ur willing to tank.
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3/22/2008  6:46 PM
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3/22/2008  6:56 PM
There's a proper way to tank and still maintain dignity and integrity of the game. No one is upset at the idea of so-called tanking. Another way of saying it would be Throwing In the Towel.

Like here are some methods

-Not giving your starters their normal minutes

-Have more plays designed for your bottom depth players

-Not making trades if it meant a chance at slightly marginal increase win total on the season

-Making trades to get rid of your best players(not necessarily all) for as close to comparable compensation

-Run different schemes offensively and defensively to see what each player can and can't do in game situations

There are other things that apply but they should be done under the premise of trying to win games but by doing so it may increase the chance of losing.

You don't do it the way I SAY UGH is doing it. Up until 3-4weeks ago and heck even now the team is still mathematically alive to make the playoff and at the time I SAY UGH was still thinking playoffs. The verdict on this team was sealed in the middle to late December(actually before the season even got started), this was the time to start throwing in the towel on the season by being honest about the team's situation. He should have been dedicated to establishing a plan for the future at that time. He's always been in self preservation mode and felt making the playoffs justified his work as a GM and coach this yr. Back then he made the statement other teams across the league had an equivalent amount of losses as we did. Who cares idiot let them do what's best for their team but as for ours when needed to close up shop on any aspirations and goals for the post-season and plan for next yr on down the road.

Now that it's finally clear he's been a total SHAM and FRAUD and that he may be getting replaced he doesn't care anymore with the constant exception of how he's still perceived. He's playing the young players as if it's by his design, he's trying to develop them and the best interest of the team is to focus on the draft. He's been dogging the younger players all yr with his ice out treatment of them. Then to top it all off he's throwing games.

THIS BUM IS DISGUSTING!

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-22-2008 6:18 PM]
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3/22/2008  7:12 PM
In other words the correct way of tanking would be to do it the LB way of 2005-2006.
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3/22/2008  7:22 PM
My Knick related expectations are pretty low. I'll take IT tanking games whichever way. At this point any movement in a positive direction is a great thing.
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3/22/2008  7:24 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

In other words the correct way of tanking would be to do it the LB way of 2005-2006.

lol... all of a sudden there's a right & a wrong way to lose games when all season long it's been "who cares, we won a game against a crappy team, big whoop"... u guys are too much.
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3/22/2008  7:25 PM
Posted by simrud:

My Knick related expectations are pretty low. I'll take IT tanking games whichever way. At this point any movement in a positive direction is a great thing.

seriously... i don't care if he has to play Big Turd at PG at this point to do it... lose games, get that lottery pick & rebuild.
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3/22/2008  7:47 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by TrueBlue:

In other words the correct way of tanking would be to do it the LB way of 2005-2006.

lol... all of a sudden there's a right & a wrong way to lose games when all season long it's been "who cares, we won a game against a crappy team, big whoop"... u guys are too much.

Exactly. Its all hate all the time. I want Isiah out as much as anyone, but for once, he is doing the right thing here.
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3/22/2008  7:56 PM
BTW....Losing on purpose with dignity sounds like an oxymoron to me.

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3/22/2008  8:14 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

In other words the correct way of tanking would be to do it the LB way of 2005-2006.


when we didn't have a lotto pick?
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3/22/2008  8:21 PM
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3/22/2008  8:49 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by TrueBlue:

In other words the correct way of tanking would be to do it the LB way of 2005-2006.


when we didn't have a lotto pick?

don't bother him with all these minor technicalities... it's the principle of tanking dammit! do it with honor or don't do it at all!
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3/22/2008  9:48 PM
Man as long as we get a franchise player out of this i could care less how it's done! Tank, loose by mistake, help from Stern. Who gives a damn? We need a franchise player....period. If tanking can get it done do it. If we get Beasley no Knick fan will care how it happened. Nor would they even care to remember
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3/22/2008  10:23 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by TrueBlue:

In other words the correct way of tanking would be to do it the LB way of 2005-2006.


when we didn't have a lotto pick?



Come on Now!

I'm talking about correct method... not in regards to such circumstance. Take what LB did in 2005-2005 and apply it to this season. We would be further along in our development process if we maintained the methods of what LB was trying to do who many fans accused of tanking the team and sabatoging.
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3/22/2008  10:47 PM
http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26128

Riley was just being praised for his intentional tanking 3 days. Switch the name to Isiah Thomas and it turns into a negative thing. Isiah has been a horrible gm, the bias you could argue is merited. But you got to admit its kind of funny when you compare these 2 threads.
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3/22/2008  10:57 PM
i never heard larry was trying to tank. i remind you the "art of tanking" does not place blame to any player(s) which was the case of larry brown.....self destruction yes, tanking hell no.

the way you tank is what memphis did

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3/22/2008  11:16 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:

http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26128

Riley was just being praised for his intentional tanking 3 days. Switch the name to Isiah Thomas and it turns into a negative thing. Isiah has been a horrible gm, the bias you could argue is merited. But you got to admit its kind of funny when you compare these 2 threads.

NYNY, maybe in that thread, people were praising Riley, but overall, I would say a lot of people on this board, have criticized that Heat the way they have conducted this season. Personally, I think Isiah has done a much worse job at this because he refuses to play Randolf Morris, which is inexplicable.

Basically, Isiah has sucked at everything he's done since coming to the Knicks.
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3/22/2008  11:16 PM
Posted by Bobby:

i never heard larry was trying to tank. i remind you the "art of tanking" does not place blame to any player(s) which was the case of larry brown.....self destruction yes, tanking hell no.

the way you tank is what memphis did

Well then I SAY UGH must not be tanking either because just a few days ago he blamed Wilson Chandler for his poor defense on Lebron and stated overall he's getting lit up by the better players in the league. Suggesting that's part of the reason he wasn't getting playing time. He's also blamed the whole team for not having competitive fight within themselves not too long ago.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-22-2008 10:18 PM]
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