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It would be nice to get Eddy playing like this for the rest of the year
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BRIGGS
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3/4/2008  12:37 AM
If he can do 20-8 near 60% and show a little more effort on the D like he did tonight----there will be better options going into the next year. Either we can get something of much better value than what he is wirth today OR if we cant get value perhaps we can find a 6-10--7-0 PF who can play next to him. If he comes back in better shape with renewed fitness and focus---he can be a +

The whole gig is there is NO way we can have Curry randolph co-exsist----it's not working for the Curry or the Knicks.
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3/4/2008  12:41 AM
One game and already your bringing back your Curry love from earlier in the year, lol.
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3/4/2008  12:49 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

If he can do 20-8 near 60% and show a little more effort on the D like he did tonight----there will be better options going into the next year. Either we can get something of much better value than what he is wirth today OR if we cant get value perhaps we can find a 6-10--7-0 PF who can play next to him. If he comes back in better shape with renewed fitness and focus---he can be a +

The whole gig is there is NO way we can have Curry randolph co-exsist----it's not working for the Curry or the Knicks.


Well 2 games before this Randolph gave 30pts 17reb 5ast 1blk.

I don't know what's the excitement or hopefulness when one player does something over the others. EY looked like his usual more minutes one-way self tonight. EY was motivated tonight because he was a focal point and playing against a former fellow teammate. We don't need a player who's motivated to play under those circumstances because they are far and few between over the course of an 82gm season. Tonight I also saw EY get overpowered for a rebound by Janero Pargo, had fits keeping Chandler and Ely off the boards who had 25reb collectively, got Lobbed on almost 4-5times tonight 2 of them almost back-to-back.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-04-2008 12:11 AM]
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3/4/2008  12:50 AM
Posted by GKFv2:

One game and already your bringing back your Curry love from earlier in the year, lol.

It doesn't take long for some.
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3/4/2008  1:09 AM
There's no point in discussing the hypothetical situation of Curry putting up 20/8 on 60% shooting with average defense on a consistent basis, because it's never going to happen.

[Edited by - Slimpack on 03-04-2008 01:09 AM]
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3/4/2008  1:09 AM
Posted by GKFv2:

One game and already your bringing back your Curry love from earlier in the year, lol.

So it's better that he plays crppy?

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3/4/2008  1:18 AM
It's not better that he plays crappy. We all want him to play up to his potential. Who's gonna be fooled though? Nobody. He's still famous for coming into camp out of shape, besides that one season in which he was taking the diet pills. He still doesn't try on D'. He still has kind of a babyish attitude. He still gets easily beat on the boards, and to top it off, his offense is still limited. He still passes poorly. It seems the only one of those he wants to improve is to improve his offense so he can score better. Last year, everyone was talking about his jumpshot. This year, he wants to improve the hookshot and that's his key to greatness according to him, seemingly.

Zach and Curry BOTH need to go. I thought Curry was a bad player to build around at the end of last season, when it seemed like that was what we were doing. This season, he proved it.
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3/4/2008  1:19 AM
Posted by SlimPack:

There's no point in discussing the hypothetical situation of Curry putting up 20/8 on 60% shooting with average defense on a consistent basis, because it's never going to happen.

[Edited by - Slimpack on 03-04-2008 01:09 AM]

He's already averaged 20-8 60% last year. If he gets in better shape and gives consistent effort like tonight--he can do it--I mean the defensive part. Hes already proven he can do the other numbers.

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3/4/2008  1:23 AM
If he can get in better shape Briggs. IF he can get his head in the game. IF he can someday look in the mirror and realize his potential and puts in the work to reach it.

These are all IFs that he's never ever answered to. What makes you or anyone think he'll finally do it? I don't trust him to do it. Might as well move away from the anxiety.
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3/4/2008  1:26 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by SlimPack:

There's no point in discussing the hypothetical situation of Curry putting up 20/8 on 60% shooting with average defense on a consistent basis, because it's never going to happen.

[Edited by - Slimpack on 03-04-2008 01:09 AM]

He's already averaged 20-8 60% last year. If he gets in better shape and gives consistent effort like tonight--he can do it--I mean the defensive part. Hes already proven he can do the other numbers.

He averaged 19 and 7 and shot 57% from the field. He's shooting 54% now. Not a big drop off. The only difference is he was force-fed the ball last season. Curry is a player I cannot understand why anyone would root for. He is a lazy underachieving fool who refuses to play defense or rebound.

He isn't going to average 20 and 8 in his career and I will go even further and say he will never even average 19 and 7 ever again.
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3/4/2008  1:38 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:
Zach and Curry BOTH need to go.

agreed.
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3/4/2008  1:54 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by SlimPack:

There's no point in discussing the hypothetical situation of Curry putting up 20/8 on 60% shooting with average defense on a consistent basis, because it's never going to happen.

[Edited by - Slimpack on 03-04-2008 01:09 AM]

He's already averaged 20-8 60% last year. If he gets in better shape and gives consistent effort like tonight--he can do it--I mean the defensive part. Hes already proven he can do the other numbers.


Curry has some dirt on you doesn't he BRIGGS?
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3/4/2008  2:09 AM
Why do we assume that he CAN produce like this every night and that he's just not trying? What if he just can't give 20 & 8 consistently?
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3/4/2008  2:37 AM
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Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by SlimPack:

There's no point in discussing the hypothetical situation of Curry putting up 20/8 on 60% shooting with average defense on a consistent basis, because it's never going to happen.

[Edited by - Slimpack on 03-04-2008 01:09 AM]

He's already averaged 20-8 60% last year. If he gets in better shape and gives consistent effort like tonight--he can do it--I mean the defensive part. Hes already proven he can do the other numbers.

He averaged 19 and 7 and shot 57% from the field. He's shooting 54% now. Not a big drop off. The only difference is he was force-fed the ball last season. Curry is a player I cannot understand why anyone would root for. He is a lazy underachieving fool who refuses to play defense or rebound.

He isn't going to average 20 and 8 in his career and I will go even further and say he will never even average 19 and 7 ever again.

What do you mean force fed the ball--the guy led the NBA in FG%--do you understand basketball? If someone is shooting at a 60% clip--he should get the ball *more* not less. Curry has scked this year--there is no doubt about it. We made bad mistakes with Eddy Curry's progress by acquiring Zach Randoplh and Eddy did not help himself and has been a bit of a martyr. Eddy Curry was a *dominating* type of player in 2006 who shouldve been helped to continue to develop. They shouldve never traded for Randoplh. I suggested using Lee and balkman @4 --- continue to build on Curry's success of 2006 which has turned into failure. Now can Eddy come back from this--as a Knick fan I hope so--if not for him staying??? or to increase his value. There is no reason why he cant get back to the 20-7 level and play average defense. Hard work this offseason and getting rid of Zach and going a different way would go a long way. Isiah screwd himself with that Zach trade.
This team was going to be a playoff team and a tough little out in 2006 if Jamal didnt get hurt and Isiah destroyed the only chemistry we had going for us. he shouldve been more interested in the offseason developments of Lee Balkman and Curry instead of these max contract star phucking trades that backfire every time.
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3/4/2008  2:53 AM
Do I understand basketball? Yes. Do you? Because clearly you don't.

Curry was far from *dominating*. That is a complete joke. Any 6'11, 300 lb center who gets 7 rebounds (career high) and half a block per game while starting and playing heavy minutes is a disgrace to the NBA. I don't care what you say. I'd rather my center rebound and play some defense like Chandler rather than charge into people for offensive fouls, not pass out of double teams, play like a pansy, and look morbidly obese.

Eddy Curry never had a work ethic and never will. Zach Randolph isn't to blame for that. Zach Randolph is his own person and player and he may have had a little to do with Curry's production but that doesn't give Curry an excuse to gain even more weight and play even more lazy. The guy is one the biggest busts in NBA history. A man his size and he plays like Mugsy Bogues.Hell, Bogues could out rebound this fat pathetic whale.

Playoff team? Where are you right now, Gilligan's Island? You must have been that Isisah follower that believed every word he said and probably thought that "injuries killed us last year" and it hindered us from showing our greatness. Yep, Isiah ruined it all by trading for Zach. Zach ruined everything man. He made Isiah bench Marbury and Marbury go AWOL, he made Jamal Crawford chuck shots, he made Randolph Morris and Chandler sit on the bench and he also destroyed the championship aspirations this team once had. Balkman, in all his glory, can only score off garbage buckets and plays decent defense. Lee already has developed with his jumper. Zach must have killed that too. Zach is the root of all evil.

Of course, the obese un-motivated career underachiever who plays center for this Knicks and really should be the Knicks mascot as the Pillsbury Doughboy never gets any blame. e's cool. He's a superstar. You'll see. He'll come back and *dominate* everyone with 19 and 7 and lead us to 33 wins. Eddy Curry is a man-beast!
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3/4/2008  3:27 AM
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Do I understand basketball? Yes. Do you? Because clearly you don't.

Curry was far from *dominating*. That is a complete joke. Any 6'11, 300 lb center who gets 7 rebounds (career high) and half a block per game while starting and playing heavy minutes is a disgrace to the NBA. I don't care what you say. I'd rather my center rebound and play some defense like Chandler rather than charge into people for offensive fouls, not pass out of double teams, play like a pansy, and look morbidly obese.

Eddy Curry never had a work ethic and never will. Zach Randolph isn't to blame for that. Zach Randolph is his own person and player and he may have had a little to do with Curry's production but that doesn't give Curry an excuse to gain even more weight and play even more lazy. The guy is one the biggest busts in NBA history. A man his size and he plays like Mugsy Bogues.Hell, Bogues could out rebound this fat pathetic whale.

Playoff team? Where are you right now, Gilligan's Island? You must have been that Isisah follower that believed every word he said and probably thought that "injuries killed us last year" and it hindered us from showing our greatness. Yep, Isiah ruined it all by trading for Zach. Zach ruined everything man. He made Isiah bench Marbury and Marbury go AWOL, he made Jamal Crawford chuck shots, he made Randolph Morris and Chandler sit on the bench and he also destroyed the championship aspirations this team once had. Balkman, in all his glory, can only score off garbage buckets and plays decent defense. Lee already has developed with his jumper. Zach must have killed that too. Zach is the root of all evil.

Of course, the obese un-motivated career underachiever who plays center for this Knicks and really should be the Knicks mascot as the Pillsbury Doughboy never gets any blame. e's cool. He's a superstar. You'll see. He'll come back and *dominate* everyone with 19 and 7 and lead us to 33 wins. Eddy Curry is a man-beast!


I'd bet if you asked David Lee if the Zach Randolph trade was good for the Knicks he would say no.

A C *does not* have to get 12 rebounds as a requirement. Eddy avegared 19.5 points on 12.5 SPG last year. There was no doubt in my mind that his numbers could've gone up to 24-8 this year with a good offseason and no Zach Randolph trade. Guys like Balkman haven't developed a hair after showing solid intial assets. David Lee cannot seem to get 35 minutes per game on a consistent basis. The only players he's let go were the guards and that was by default. I think I'm as clear leveled fan as they come--when they sck I say it--and they do sck right now. I think Isiah had a very fair chance and has failed. He only has one person to blame--himself. The Knicks were going to win 40-42 games until Jamal went down last year. We had a core and we couldve built on that but the guy decided to destroy the landscape. If his creation ever had a chance--he surely fcked it up himself. If I was running the Knicks I certainly wouldn't throw Eddy Curry under the bus--release him--give me an expiring contract===I would do whatever I could to get Eddy back to his 2006 level--in better shape. I would want to be pro-active with what I have here and make decisions when I am NOT in a position of weakness. Except for the draft and possibly the ending contracts[or a combination of them together] the NUMBER one priority this offseason has to be getting Eddy Curry down 15 pounds and getting rid of Zach.
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3/4/2008  6:37 AM
I think we need to ask Briggs a similar question to what Bitty was asked about Zach: Does Eddy sleep with his weapon (i.e., donuts and cheeseburgers) on him?
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3/4/2008  7:24 AM
Isiah new the team he assembled couldn't play a lick of defense, so he thought he could outscore opponents in the east and win a playoff series.

What he didn't understand is these group of players don't understand what sacrifice for the team means.

They were out for themselves to get traded out of NY.
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3/4/2008  8:36 AM
Eddy Curry is garbage and will never average 20 and 9 on 60%. He's a 15 and 5 player.
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3/4/2008  9:00 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by SlimPack:

There's no point in discussing the hypothetical situation of Curry putting up 20/8 on 60% shooting with average defense on a consistent basis, because it's never going to happen.

[Edited by - Slimpack on 03-04-2008 01:09 AM]

He's already averaged 20-8 60% last year. If he gets in better shape and gives consistent effort like tonight--he can do it--I mean the defensive part. Hes already proven he can do the other numbers.

He averaged 19 and 7 and shot 57% from the field. He's shooting 54% now. Not a big drop off. The only difference is he was force-fed the ball last season. Curry is a player I cannot understand why anyone would root for. He is a lazy underachieving fool who refuses to play defense or rebound.

He isn't going to average 20 and 8 in his career and I will go even further and say he will never even average 19 and 7 ever again.

What do you mean force fed the ball--the guy led the NBA in FG%--do you understand basketball? If someone is shooting at a 60% clip--he should get the ball *more* not less.
You can't ignore poor FT shooting, very few assists, and a ton of turnovers when deciding whether he should get the ball more or less. You've followed basketball a long time. I'm sure you understand basketball well enough to understand that. I think you're just letting your love for Eddy cloud your judgment.

It would be nice to get Eddy playing like this for the rest of the year

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