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BigRedDog
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2/28/2008  11:04 AM
yea, this could work.http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/51151/20080228/knicks_dolan_wants_isiah_and_kiki/
fishmike 9/27/2024 11:00 PM Ug I hate this. The idea of Towns is great until you see what a pussy he is. Jules is a dog. DD was a flamethrower locked up cheap for 3 more years. First Leon move I hate
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2/28/2008  11:06 AM
Could work?

Isiah Thomas cannot come back, not even as a janitor.
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2/28/2008  11:41 AM
Isiah needs to go. Lets just get a breath of fresh air and rid ourselves of the poison, before he has a chance to give Fred Jones a big extension, and before he has a chance to F' up our draft pick.
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2/28/2008  11:43 AM
Little Jimmy would be able to control Kiki. That's why he seems to be shying away from the Colangelos or the Walshes.
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2/28/2008  11:57 AM
Posted by K22:

Little Jimmy would be able to control Kiki. That's why he seems to be shying away from the Colangelos or the Walshes.

I agree. Kiki is my 3rd choice. Colangelo and Walsh are my top 2. I like the idea someone had earlier with Colangelo as VP, Walsh as GM. My dream here is that and Carlisle as coach.
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2/28/2008  12:06 PM
because Isiah has done such a great job coaching this year, or because Dolan gave him a 4 year extension and doesn't want to eat more salary?

If they keep Isiah, I am through as a fan.
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2/28/2008  12:07 PM
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by K22:

Little Jimmy would be able to control Kiki. That's why he seems to be shying away from the Colangelos or the Walshes.

I agree. Kiki is my 3rd choice. Colangelo and Walsh are my top 2. I like the idea someone had earlier with Colangelo as VP, Walsh as GM. My dream here is that and Carlisle as coach.


Joe please don't take this the wrong way

People keep saying who their Top choices are, which are no brainers. Everyone knows most fans want the most qualified GM to take over. As dj pointed out yesterday, we aren't in a Colangelo/Walsh or Bust situation. We need someone more qualified than I SAY UGH to take over and Kiki fits the bill. Kiki could be our 100th choice, he'd still be better than I SAY UGH. Some fans are acting as if Kiki is chop liver, check out what he recently done with the Nets.


Let's be thrilled it may appear Dolan is entertaining replacing I SAY UGH and FALL BACK on the Beggers Can Be Choosy attitude.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 02-28-2008 11:15 AM]
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2/28/2008  12:12 PM
Posted by BigRedDog:

yea, this could work.http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/51151/20080228/knicks_dolan_wants_isiah_and_kiki/

I was being sarcastic. There is NO way this would work.I like Kiki, not as much as Colangelo but he would be a major upgrade over what we have.
fishmike 9/27/2024 11:00 PM Ug I hate this. The idea of Towns is great until you see what a pussy he is. Jules is a dog. DD was a flamethrower locked up cheap for 3 more years. First Leon move I hate
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2/28/2008  12:12 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by K22:

Little Jimmy would be able to control Kiki. That's why he seems to be shying away from the Colangelos or the Walshes.

I agree. Kiki is my 3rd choice. Colangelo and Walsh are my top 2. I like the idea someone had earlier with Colangelo as VP, Walsh as GM. My dream here is that and Carlisle as coach.


Joe please don't take this the wrong way

People keep saying who there Top choices are which are no brainers. Everyone knows most fans want the most qualified GM to take over. As dj pointed out yesterday, we aren't in a Colangelo/Walsh or Bust situation. We need someone more qualified than I SAY UGH to take over and Kiki fits the bill. Kiki could be our 100th choice, he'd still be better than I SAY UGH. Some fans are acting as if Kiki is chop liver check out what he recently did with the Nets.


Let's be thrilled it may appear Dolan is entertaining replacing I SAY UGH and FALL BACK on the Beggers Can Be Choosy attitude.

It is Jerry Colangelo, Jerry West, Donnie Walsh or bust. They cannot bring someone mediocre like Kiki to take over the worst situation in sports history. They need someone respected, qualified and proven. Kiki would be another Isiah Thomas.
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2/28/2008  12:22 PM
Posted by Klytus:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by K22:

Little Jimmy would be able to control Kiki. That's why he seems to be shying away from the Colangelos or the Walshes.

I agree. Kiki is my 3rd choice. Colangelo and Walsh are my top 2. I like the idea someone had earlier with Colangelo as VP, Walsh as GM. My dream here is that and Carlisle as coach.


Joe please don't take this the wrong way

People keep saying who there Top choices are which are no brainers. Everyone knows most fans want the most qualified GM to take over. As dj pointed out yesterday, we aren't in a Colangelo/Walsh or Bust situation. We need someone more qualified than I SAY UGH to take over and Kiki fits the bill. Kiki could be our 100th choice, he'd still be better than I SAY UGH. Some fans are acting as if Kiki is chop liver check out what he recently did with the Nets.


Let's be thrilled it may appear Dolan is entertaining replacing I SAY UGH and FALL BACK on the Beggers Can Be Choosy attitude.

It is Jerry Colangelo, Jerry West, Donnie Walsh or bust. They cannot bring someone mediocre like Kiki to take over the worst situation in sports history. They need someone respected, qualified and proven. Kiki would be another Isiah Thomas.



You're dead wrong. We need someone to come in here with a plan and set a foundation. Kiki is more than capable of doing so. Kiki didn't achieve ultimate success in Denver but he left them in a far better situation than when he took over the job initially. We can turn the keys over to someone more qualified yrs down the road. As of right now we want to stop the Bleeding and Stabilize, maybe someone else will have to perform the Surgery down the road. If the Nets can hire Kiki on a 6month commitment while he reaps them benefits, then we can hire someone too, who doesn't have to be here for an eternity.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 02-28-2008 11:23 AM]
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2/28/2008  12:39 PM
Why do people even care anymore? Getting emotionally committed to a disgrace of an organization like this is the dumbest thing you can do. I learned that the hard way.
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2/28/2008  12:49 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Klytus:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by K22:

Little Jimmy would be able to control Kiki. That's why he seems to be shying away from the Colangelos or the Walshes.

I agree. Kiki is my 3rd choice. Colangelo and Walsh are my top 2. I like the idea someone had earlier with Colangelo as VP, Walsh as GM. My dream here is that and Carlisle as coach.


Joe please don't take this the wrong way

People keep saying who there Top choices are which are no brainers. Everyone knows most fans want the most qualified GM to take over. As dj pointed out yesterday, we aren't in a Colangelo/Walsh or Bust situation. We need someone more qualified than I SAY UGH to take over and Kiki fits the bill. Kiki could be our 100th choice, he'd still be better than I SAY UGH. Some fans are acting as if Kiki is chop liver check out what he recently did with the Nets.


Let's be thrilled it may appear Dolan is entertaining replacing I SAY UGH and FALL BACK on the Beggers Can Be Choosy attitude.

It is Jerry Colangelo, Jerry West, Donnie Walsh or bust. They cannot bring someone mediocre like Kiki to take over the worst situation in sports history. They need someone respected, qualified and proven. Kiki would be another Isiah Thomas.



You're dead wrong. We need someone to come in here with a plan and set a foundation. Kiki is more than capable of doing so. Kiki didn't achieve ultimate success in Denver but he left them in a far better situation than when he took over the job initially. We can turn the keys over to someone more qualified yrs down the road. As of right now we want to stop the Bleeding and Stabilize, maybe someone else will have to perform the Surgery down the road. If the Nets can hire Kiki on a 6month commitment while he reaps them benefits, then we can hire someone too, who doesn't have to be here for an eternity.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 02-28-2008 11:23 AM]


exactly, but most of all, we need someone in here immediately who has some integrity, that doesn't have any sexual harrasment lawsuits lingering over his head, that doesn't play mind games with the players. Someone who is respected and has a good reputation. This for most executives and most teams should be basic. for the knicks, it would be a huge upgrade, and it has nothing to do with basketball either..
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2/28/2008  12:51 PM
hire Kiki and let him "evaluate" Isiah as coach...

Dolan to Isiah: I didn't fire you, Kiki did.

[Edited by - McK1 on 28-02-2008 12:51 PM]
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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2/28/2008  1:15 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Klytus:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by K22:

Little Jimmy would be able to control Kiki. That's why he seems to be shying away from the Colangelos or the Walshes.

I agree. Kiki is my 3rd choice. Colangelo and Walsh are my top 2. I like the idea someone had earlier with Colangelo as VP, Walsh as GM. My dream here is that and Carlisle as coach.


Joe please don't take this the wrong way

People keep saying who there Top choices are which are no brainers. Everyone knows most fans want the most qualified GM to take over. As dj pointed out yesterday, we aren't in a Colangelo/Walsh or Bust situation. We need someone more qualified than I SAY UGH to take over and Kiki fits the bill. Kiki could be our 100th choice, he'd still be better than I SAY UGH. Some fans are acting as if Kiki is chop liver check out what he recently did with the Nets.


Let's be thrilled it may appear Dolan is entertaining replacing I SAY UGH and FALL BACK on the Beggers Can Be Choosy attitude.

It is Jerry Colangelo, Jerry West, Donnie Walsh or bust. They cannot bring someone mediocre like Kiki to take over the worst situation in sports history. They need someone respected, qualified and proven. Kiki would be another Isiah Thomas.



You're dead wrong. We need someone to come in here with a plan and set a foundation. Kiki is more than capable of doing so. Kiki didn't achieve ultimate success in Denver but he left them in a far better situation than when he took over the job initially. We can turn the keys over to someone more qualified yrs down the road. As of right now we want to stop the Bleeding and Stabilize, maybe someone else will have to perform the Surgery down the road. If the Nets can hire Kiki on a 6month commitment while he reaps them benefits, then we can hire someone too, who doesn't have to be here for an eternity.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 02-28-2008 11:23 AM]


exactly, but most of all, we need someone in here immediately who has some integrity, that doesn't have any sexual harrasment lawsuits lingering over his head, that doesn't play mind games with the players. Someone who is respected and has a good reputation. This for most executives and most teams should be basic. for the knicks, it would be a huge upgrade, and it has nothing to do with basketball either..

Someoone whom other GMs will call back, not snicker, nor keep their daughters away from!
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2/28/2008  1:25 PM
I think someone else mentioned that this would simply be a salary saving move. Dolan does not want to have to pay another coach while still paying IT, so he figures he might as well let him coach and give the reins to Kiki. IT will have one more year to redeem himself and if we have another losing season, Dolan at least will have one less year to eat on IT's contract.
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2/28/2008  1:25 PM
thats a waste... new GM should hire a new coach. Isiah is still accountable to the *******s he filled the roster with. A new coach wont be
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2/28/2008  1:44 PM
That's great. Continue to give Isiah the opportunity to prove that he was right about some of these players even if it means sabotaging the new GM's moves.

Who do you think he'll play? His players or Kiki's?
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2/28/2008  1:49 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Klytus:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by K22:

Little Jimmy would be able to control Kiki. That's why he seems to be shying away from the Colangelos or the Walshes.

I agree. Kiki is my 3rd choice. Colangelo and Walsh are my top 2. I like the idea someone had earlier with Colangelo as VP, Walsh as GM. My dream here is that and Carlisle as coach.


Joe please don't take this the wrong way

People keep saying who there Top choices are which are no brainers. Everyone knows most fans want the most qualified GM to take over. As dj pointed out yesterday, we aren't in a Colangelo/Walsh or Bust situation. We need someone more qualified than I SAY UGH to take over and Kiki fits the bill. Kiki could be our 100th choice, he'd still be better than I SAY UGH. Some fans are acting as if Kiki is chop liver check out what he recently did with the Nets.


Let's be thrilled it may appear Dolan is entertaining replacing I SAY UGH and FALL BACK on the Beggers Can Be Choosy attitude.

It is Jerry Colangelo, Jerry West, Donnie Walsh or bust. They cannot bring someone mediocre like Kiki to take over the worst situation in sports history. They need someone respected, qualified and proven. Kiki would be another Isiah Thomas.



You're dead wrong. We need someone to come in here with a plan and set a foundation. Kiki is more than capable of doing so. Kiki didn't achieve ultimate success in Denver but he left them in a far better situation than when he took over the job initially. We can turn the keys over to someone more qualified yrs down the road. As of right now we want to stop the Bleeding and Stabilize, maybe someone else will have to perform the Surgery down the road. If the Nets can hire Kiki on a 6month commitment while he reaps them benefits, then we can hire someone too, who doesn't have to be here for an eternity.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 02-28-2008 11:23 AM]


exactly, but most of all, we need someone in here immediately who has some integrity, that doesn't have any sexual harrasment lawsuits lingering over his head, that doesn't play mind games with the players. Someone who is respected and has a good reputation. This for most executives and most teams should be basic. for the knicks, it would be a huge upgrade, and it has nothing to do with basketball either..


I agree. I believe this is a major reason Thorn hired Kiki. Thorn knew in Late November early December Kidd officially wanted out and he sent out feelers last yr with the thought of trading him then. Thorn could have worked the deal by himself or could of had Stefanski work it. Maybe Stefanski wasn't able to drum up any worthwhile trades or maybe could have been someone who tried to convince Thorn to stick it out as long as possible. Thorn probably reasoned he wants to make sure he gets the right deal for Kidd. Who does he look for assistance? Kiki! Like you said it probably has plenty to do with his rep around the league. The guy probably works the phones like no other and has great communication skills across the league. He could be the kind of GM who makes courtesy calls on a regular basis to teams, and gets a good feel who may or who may not be available and when.

Regardless if it's Kiki vs I SAY UGH....I Probably Shouldn't Go Here But I Will. As A Black Man I'm Going To Have To Distinguish On This One and Go With Kiki 1000 times out of 1000.
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2/28/2008  1:51 PM
Posted by islesfan:

That's great. Continue to give Isiah the opportunity to prove that he was right about some of these players even if it means sabotaging the new GM's moves.

Who do you think he'll play? His players or Kiki's?


He won't have a choice if Kiki Anthraxes all of his current squad. I'd wager Kiki would have 80% of the roster purged by the break next yr if he's hired this spring.
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2/28/2008  2:00 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by islesfan:

That's great. Continue to give Isiah the opportunity to prove that he was right about some of these players even if it means sabotaging the new GM's moves.

Who do you think he'll play? His players or Kiki's?


He won't have a choice if Kiki Anthraxes all of his current squad. I'd wager Kiki would have 80% of the roster purged by the break next yr if he's hired this spring.

And Isiah will do everything in his power as coach to prove that his 20% is better than Kiki's 80%. Or he'll just sabotage the whole thing to prove that getting rid of him and hiring Kiki was a mistake.

Either way, keeping Isiah in any capacity is just as bad as keeping him as GM and coach.
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Dolan wants Isiah AND Kiki

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