Trying to start some static on this board since everyone is all dejected and frustrated and looking into the barren wasteland that will be the second half of this Knicks season...

I'm on the fence about Larry. I was like all the typical starshtuppers when he joined the club and loved when he joined. I mean, he took a lunchpail Detroit crew to the Promised Land and is from the area... perfect match, right? But then there was all the funky lineups and the controversy and the weird trades (Isiah?) and then the boot. Obviously not a good fit here. And I talk to a knowledgeable basketball fan who was in Phila. when Brown was there and he was no fan of the man and his techniques.

In today's Daily News:

Last year, Thomas was also silent at the trading deadline and there were whispers that Dolan wanted Thomas to prove that he could win with the players that Larry Brown had ridiculed. Once Thomas reached a 29-34 record, Dolan handed him a contract extension and the Knicks are 20-53 since that watershed moment.

Brown's greatest concerns were that Stephon Marbury wasn't the point guard to lead the Knicks and Eddy Curry wasn't a franchise center. Thomas took those criticisms as a threat to his own job and worked behind the scenes to get Brown fired. Two years later, Curry doesn't play in the fourth quarter and Marbury doesn't even show up for games at all.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2008/02/22/2008-02-22_isiah_thomas_silent_at_trade_deadline.html

What say you? Man up? Still hattin'? Or are we just all slipping into the warm comforting arms of Apathy?

The old man was ahead of his time.

Larry Brown.

Right message, unbelievably bad delivery.

Larry is as much a reason why Larry is no longer here than Isiah/Dolan.

Why are you guys still jockriding this front runner, he's sucked and he's gone GET OVER IT ALREADY. I'm already over Thomas and he's not even gone yet

Is it OK to still be in the "LB was right but he still deserved to be fired" camp?

Larry Brown showed typical NY attitude here. He saw a job that had to be done and tried whatever means necessary to accomplish it. The 94 Knicks were the same way. They were good at what they did. Everyone else hated it, the league despised, they pissed just about everyone off with how physical they were.

I didn't agree with everything that Larry did, but what he did was what he believed was best for the team.

So far everything that Isiah has done suggests that his priorities are 1-Make Dolan Happy 2-Save his job 3-Try to not ruin/repair his reputation 4-Team as long as it doesn't directly or indirectly conflict with his first 3 objectives.

Larry was nobodys homer and spoke his mind.

He was the wrong man to be bought into this dysfuntional situation where spite and propoganda is the corp. culture.

Larry was stupid to take this gig given the roster. Perhaps he thought they would clean things up for him but that would make Isiah look stupid.

Larry fought for what he believed to be right and that made him look really bad and likley drove him about crazy. He was right, the team is really lacking motivation.

Larry was fired for Isiah's sins.

Its a shame, I actually thought some players were making progress especially Eddy.

He wanted Marbury gone. He went behind Isiah's back. He saw the truth.

I still hate him glad he's gone

Posted by BasketballJones:

If it hadn't been for Larry Brown, the Knicks would be champions by now.

In fairness to Larry, the fans deserve a lot of the blame too.

In fact there are at least 6 or 7 losses this season I can directly attribute to bippity.


[Edited by - blueseats on 02-22-2008 2:11 PM]

Posted by TheSage:

if anyone cares to check, I supported Larry to nth degree. He saw the team, the talents and deficiencies but the GM refused to relinquish his love child (I forget his name he is out of lineup so often-the kid fom Lincoln high in Bklyn-the self proclaimed best pg in the league) and refused to supply LB with defense-rebounding no names giving him offensive (double meaning intended) potentials. And all this has come back to roost. Larry still has the respect around the league-IT will probably not get a job anywhere outside Detroit where they have loving memories of the kid with street smarts.

Are you kidding me, after his Knicks performance no GM will want him on the bench, how long has he been saying he wants to return to coaching I don't see anyone knocking on his door