Posted by misterearl:
Unproven My Butt
Nalod - when Yogi was hired to manage the Yankees, what experience did he have?
Doc Rivers?
I like Mark Jackson's demeanor, the fact he's FROM New York, played for the Knicks, played for St John's, played for good teams and not-so-good, the fact he hit the open man, the idea that he would be a good communicator with the younger generation of ballplayer (unlike the ancient Larry Brown who looked up and his derisive ABA bell-bottom routine no longer was cool) the fact he understands how some New Yorkers live and die with the Knicks and that he would be a liason to the best of days when he played at MSG...
and I like the fact that after having a chance to meet him... just a feeling.... that
he could handle it all, and grow into the position as many before him, with an opportunity, have done
Was yogi a great manager?
Being FROM NY is nothing. Not a tangable shread that would indicate any potiential.
You like the guy. Thats it. So you hope he would get the gig, thats fine.
HOw about "I like Mark Jax and would hope he would get an opportunity". Mista got his opinion. Now you want to discuss it, bring on some intangable somthing.
Red Auerbach was from another time and era. Bill Russell, whom had great cred was a disaster as coach. His player/coach gig worked because that was a vet team who had been winning all along. Lasted a year. Why? He was looney tunes. He had the gig in Seattle. Did not go well.
Doc Rivers sucked in Orlando. He sucked in Boston up until they asked him to tank and extended him. This year the team has great leadership and the youngin's are in line because you don't mess with KG.
C'mon manm, its cool to like the guy but your being too intangable.
Larry for all his demons just came off a back to back finals run as COACH. HOF as a COACH. Played on a National championship team in college and won a gold in the Olympics. Man got serious cred. ANd he was from NY TOO!!!!!!
Why would he be good for the NY fan? What is it to understand the fans?? What does that particular knowlege have that makes it so hard to understand about the NY fan? They speak another language? Too dumb? Too smart? Have green blood? To me the NY fan is sophisticated yet outspoken but for some strange reason bends over and loves a good starphuch once in a while. NY fans loves the big name and the hope it brings. Then NY fans gets to brutallize them when they don't offer instant gradification.
So in some cases NY fan is both the best and the worst at the same time. Ok, maybe is too much media whom to compete ups the hype to one up the other venue.
Mark Jax? Sure, if celeberty is the top qualifier.
He hit the open man is a qualifier? And you met him? That is not a reason to hire the guy.
I said respectfully so, but you want to "unproven my butt" discuss so thats cool. So in a sense your arguement is dumb as spit.
To me he is proven as a player to not quite be good enough to win it in college or the pro's. He was a step too slow, shot awkward, and had nice vision blessed with good health and played a long time. Don't get me wrong, good player. Don't know if HOF caliber.
In fact many of your scrubs make the best kind of coach. Phil Jax, Skiles, Carlisle, etc etc
To me he has proven nothing but be a decent announcer and as a former player has some nice insight to the game.
You like him, thats fine, but where is the tangable???
BUt like briggy said, if he can be his own man and Dolan can give him a directive that includes being patient and build for the long run, then Im behind him or anyone that communicate this to me.
I rooted for Earnie, Layden, and Isiah to all get it done. I'll root for the next guy too!
[Edited by - nalod on 11-02-2008 3:14 PM]