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If Mark Jackson Was Invited to Coach The Knicks Would He Take The Job?
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misterearl
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2/11/2008  11:14 AM
...and how would he be received by the NYC media?

... would he be able to have significant input on the decision to acquire the next lead guard?

... would he play the best five?

... and could he get Jamal, or anyone else, to make the entry pass and keep moving without the ball?

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2/11/2008  11:20 AM
I'd rather him be the GM. I'd have faith in him to make competent decisions; like hiring a quality coach and letting him do his thing, unlike someone else.
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2/11/2008  11:21 AM
I don't like Mark Jackson.

But I think he is all for freedom with the guard play so he is gonna let Nate and Craw do their thing....I think he would start Nate. I dunno if he would like any of the other players....I think he would start Lee or Balkman @3. he may even take Curry or Zach off the bench. This is just going off his comments on Yes network and ESPN and his playing days.

BTW......Post passing is only a problem when Eddy Curry is the target. David Lee, and Zach don't have a problem catching passed in the post....so stop saying that dude. Curry is a pansy.
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2/11/2008  11:31 AM
EnySpree - what are you basing your opinion of who Mark jackson would play on?

before you whip yourself into a frenzy of over-rationalizations, please take a deep breath and allow me to ask again:

... how would he be received by the NYC media?

... would he be able to have significant input on the decision to acquire the next lead guard?

... would he play the best five?

... and could he get Jamal, or anyone else, to make the entry pass and keep moving without the ball?

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2/11/2008  11:34 AM
Earl, would you vote for a newscaster to be a senater, or Governer, or president?

WOuld you vote for Anderson Cooper, Wolf Blitzer, or any talking head to run things because you like their VIEWS?

Views are entertainment. Making real decisions and being accountable is an other story. Jax can make a decision, then another, than another, but you can't do that if your GM. You can do that on TV. That is unless your Isiah of course.

TV anouncers are not under the heat of the moment, nor have to deal with players and actually have to account for the games and the records!!!!

With all do respect, lets not have a "doc rivers learn on the fly" kind of situation. It took him how many years and a trio of allstars to learn how to coach?

I realize he had a nice career and as a veteran point guard has the POTENTIAL to grow into being a coach more than others (See Rod Strickland) but this mess needs a strong coach, or if you blow it up, then hire a coach to what you want to built it to.

With all due respect Earl......Lets not "starphuch" a coach hiring.

[Edited by - nalod on 11-02-2008 11:35 AM]
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2/11/2008  11:35 AM
I'm pretty sure he'd take it. Don't know why he'd be invited though.... I don't see the Knicks offering the job to an unproven guy.
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2/11/2008  11:42 AM
Posted by misterearl:

EnySpree - what are you basing your opinion of who Mark jackson would play on?

before you whip yourself into a frenzy of over-rationalizations, please take a deep breath and allow me to ask again:

... how would he be received by the NYC media?

... would he be able to have significant input on the decision to acquire the next lead guard?

... would he play the best five?

... and could he get Jamal, or anyone else, to make the entry pass and keep moving without the ball?

I personally don't care about the media. Jax talks to the media the same way Isiah does....with a poker face.

Would he have input on the next lead guard? Hopefully. Isiah has shown not to give a damn what the coach thinks.

The rest I already commented on.

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2/11/2008  11:47 AM
Posted by misterearl:

...and how would he be received by the NYC media?

... would he be able to have significant input on the decision to acquire the next lead guard?

... would he play the best five?

... and could he get Jamal, or anyone else, to make the entry pass and keep moving without the ball?

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2/11/2008  11:48 AM
Unproven My Butt

Nalod - when Yogi was hired to manage the Yankees, what experience did he have?

Doc Rivers?

I like Mark Jackson's demeanor, the fact he's FROM New York, played for the Knicks, played for St John's, played for good teams and not-so-good, the fact he hit the open man, the idea that he would be a good communicator with the younger generation of ballplayer (unlike the ancient Larry Brown who looked up and his derisive ABA bell-bottom routine no longer was cool) the fact he understands how some New Yorkers live and die with the Knicks and that he would be a liason to the best of days when he played at MSG...



and I like the fact that after having a chance to meet him... just a feeling.... that

he could handle it all, and grow into the position as many before him, with an opportunity, have done
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2/11/2008  1:01 PM
Action Jackson for coach and Greg Anthony for GM. Can't be worse than what we already have.
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2/11/2008  1:10 PM
I don't like Jackson as coach. From his playing days, you could see that he was pretty awful on defense towards the later years. I'd have concerns that he wouldn't emphasize defense enough. Furthermore, for coach I really want a master strategist. Jackson doesn't fit the bill.

Don't get me wrong. I think Jackson would do okay as coach. But he's not among the top candidates, IMHO.
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2/11/2008  1:11 PM
Wipe the cheetos off you hands, it aint happening.
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2/11/2008  1:33 PM
Was Red Auerbach a Master Strategist or Did he Just Have a guy named Russell to block every shot in sight?

besides Solace - Greg Popovich was a horrible defender, Phil Jackson never started, George Karl sucked and Jerry Sloan was barely an average player who fouled people hard. Playing ability translating to coaching is one of the biggest misnomers in the history of the world.

I miss Cazzie Russell, curently coaching at the Savannah College of Art and Design
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2/11/2008  1:38 PM
2 time all-star and 4 time NBA All-Defensive First Team Jerry Sloan?
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2/11/2008  1:54 PM
I haven't listened to him a lot, other than a few Net games and sometimes on ESPN, but my sense is he very well may be a good candidate.

All of the other factors earl brings up are part of what I like as well.

He has a pretty good rep as a knowledgeable guy who's personal too.

Has Steve Kerr ever been a GM before?

Count me in as interested to see if Jackson could be our future coach.
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2/11/2008  2:29 PM
Curriculum Vitae

PresIke - Steve Kerr is a great example...

some people get hung up on who they like ... instead of dealing with the particular criteria of coaching in New York City. The criteria is absolutely, positively NOT how good a player you were. What coach deliver a coherant message to a collection of younger and older heads and get them to buy in?

what coach can span the generation gap, keep the locker room politics to a minimum, synthesize random information and solve a variety of situations?

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[Edited by - misterearl on 02-11-2008 2:34 PM]
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2/11/2008  2:31 PM
I like Mark Jackson. Extremely intelligent--knows the game as well as anyone in the world--knows NY---demands respect---was a winning ballplayer in college and pros--when you listen to him about player evaluations--he has keen insight. All in all IF he had a MAJOR say how the team was shaped--I mean he needs to have a say in what he needs to win----a high level choice.
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2/11/2008  2:46 PM
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>>I don't like Jackson as coach. From his playing days, you could see that he was pretty awful on defense towards the later years.

Who doesn't slow down (on defense or otherwise) in their latter years?

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2/11/2008  3:04 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Unproven My Butt

Nalod - when Yogi was hired to manage the Yankees, what experience did he have?

Doc Rivers?

I like Mark Jackson's demeanor, the fact he's FROM New York, played for the Knicks, played for St John's, played for good teams and not-so-good, the fact he hit the open man, the idea that he would be a good communicator with the younger generation of ballplayer (unlike the ancient Larry Brown who looked up and his derisive ABA bell-bottom routine no longer was cool) the fact he understands how some New Yorkers live and die with the Knicks and that he would be a liason to the best of days when he played at MSG...



and I like the fact that after having a chance to meet him... just a feeling.... that

he could handle it all, and grow into the position as many before him, with an opportunity, have done


Was yogi a great manager?

Being FROM NY is nothing. Not a tangable shread that would indicate any potiential.

You like the guy. Thats it. So you hope he would get the gig, thats fine.

HOw about "I like Mark Jax and would hope he would get an opportunity". Mista got his opinion. Now you want to discuss it, bring on some intangable somthing.

Red Auerbach was from another time and era. Bill Russell, whom had great cred was a disaster as coach. His player/coach gig worked because that was a vet team who had been winning all along. Lasted a year. Why? He was looney tunes. He had the gig in Seattle. Did not go well.

Doc Rivers sucked in Orlando. He sucked in Boston up until they asked him to tank and extended him. This year the team has great leadership and the youngin's are in line because you don't mess with KG.

C'mon manm, its cool to like the guy but your being too intangable.

Larry for all his demons just came off a back to back finals run as COACH. HOF as a COACH. Played on a National championship team in college and won a gold in the Olympics. Man got serious cred. ANd he was from NY TOO!!!!!!

Why would he be good for the NY fan? What is it to understand the fans?? What does that particular knowlege have that makes it so hard to understand about the NY fan? They speak another language? Too dumb? Too smart? Have green blood? To me the NY fan is sophisticated yet outspoken but for some strange reason bends over and loves a good starphuch once in a while. NY fans loves the big name and the hope it brings. Then NY fans gets to brutallize them when they don't offer instant gradification.

So in some cases NY fan is both the best and the worst at the same time. Ok, maybe is too much media whom to compete ups the hype to one up the other venue.

Mark Jax? Sure, if celeberty is the top qualifier.

He hit the open man is a qualifier? And you met him? That is not a reason to hire the guy.

I said respectfully so, but you want to "unproven my butt" discuss so thats cool. So in a sense your arguement is dumb as spit.

To me he is proven as a player to not quite be good enough to win it in college or the pro's. He was a step too slow, shot awkward, and had nice vision blessed with good health and played a long time. Don't get me wrong, good player. Don't know if HOF caliber.

In fact many of your scrubs make the best kind of coach. Phil Jax, Skiles, Carlisle, etc etc
To me he has proven nothing but be a decent announcer and as a former player has some nice insight to the game.

You like him, thats fine, but where is the tangable???

BUt like briggy said, if he can be his own man and Dolan can give him a directive that includes being patient and build for the long run, then Im behind him or anyone that communicate this to me.

I rooted for Earnie, Layden, and Isiah to all get it done. I'll root for the next guy too!

[Edited by - nalod on 11-02-2008 3:14 PM]
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2/11/2008  3:58 PM
Nalod - my "arguement" is dumb as spit?

where is the "tangable"? Well, if you are referring to a tasty breakfast drink, the 'tang'able thing would be that Mark Jackson would be just like a fresh morning breeze off Brighton Beach. Or perhaps he's be the worst Knicks coach ever. Point being, there is no "arguement" and dumb things like "in-tang-able" words annoy me way more than they annoy you.

sheesh

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