We need more white guys, European guys on this team. If we can find a hispanic and even a chinese guy, that would be great! We are a short team, so we need height on this team also. There's just too many of the same types on this team. Lazy defense and just plain old lazy hussle. We can really do without the attitude also. This team should reflect the City of New York. So in the near future, Isiah, or whoever will be running this team, should focus on make a more universal team.

The Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls did it. The Tim Duncan San Antonio Spurs are doing it. The old two Knicks championship teams had a good mix of people also. Why can't we do it now, ourselves? I beleive when you have a team like that, it brings the best out of everyone. The Dallas Mavericks are competing every year with a team with variety. The Phonix Suns are another example.

I'd say that close to half of the NBA championship teams through the years have had a good balance of variety on their teams and did just as well as those other teams, with the same race of men on it. Come on guys, what do you think? It's time!!!

I want quality to. I don't just want a quota. I didnt' use the word diversity, because people get squermish about it.

I also think David Lee is a good example of what can happen, when you have guys from all walks of life on your team. Bad barber or not.

We have:
-players who doesnt want to play defense (Marbury, Crawford, Curry, Randolph)
-players who cant hit an open jump shot (Balkman, Collins, Malik, Jeffries, Q Brick)
-players who "try" (but not achieve) to play on both ends and are undersized (Lee, Nate, Jones)
-two rookies who get less playing time that the one Malik would have got in the 1992 Dream Team
-the best player in the league (Jerome James).

Certainly there is some diversity in the team...
Back to the topic it would be good if for a change, the Knicks management would take a look at European or international basketball. today rudy Fernandez became second time MVP of the Spanish Cup. So bad he will be on the Blazers next year too.

[Edited by - DarkKnicks on 10-02-2008 2:40 PM]

[Edited by - DarkKnicks on 10-02-2008 2:41 PM]

[Edited by - DarkKnicks on 10-02-2008 2:41 PM]

Posted by 4949:

Posted by iyamwutiam:

Best players period. Peja/Yao/Gasol/Miller/Nowitzki, Nash - can be starters on any NBA team. It's not about 'diversity' its about talent. I would hate to see - any continued discrimination in this day and age. There are a lot f latin players in baseball - not because they are latin but because they are better/work harder on their game. Look at the french players - Parker/ Diaw etc- its not about where your from - its about how good your game is-

I am so tired of the KVH, Shuan Bradley/ Austin croshere lovers-

Well, short of sounding like a racist, I look at this team and it's just about all black and I see no players with a good game here. So isn't it worth while to try something different here? I mean sometimes you really do need 'diversity' to make something good happen. I think it's a fair view.

While you may toe the line in terms of sounding like a racist- --
All I have to say is - its about talent. Doesn't matter where from -China/Italy/Lithuania etc. Most NBA teams are predominantly black.

I am not in favor of 'diversity' for the sake of 'diversity'. Diversity for the sake of equal opportunity is different though. That is there in the NBA -in some sense. I;kagus, Gasol, Arroyo, Garcia, Yao Ming, Yi, Diaw , Calderon, Parker, Kleiza, Nowitzki, Nash etc are all examples of this. If there is a player that is 'as good' then fine. But too often - I see Croshere, KVH, Dunleavy being anninted as the next bird- get multi-million dollar contracts - and 'then' have the rest of the diversity promoters find out - they have basically promoted over-paying mediocre or less players than open the game up to talented diverse individuals.

lol

Posted by 4949:


Well, short of sounding like a racist, I look at this team and it's just about all black and I see no players with a good game here. So isn't it worth while to try something different here? I mean sometimes you really do need 'diversity' to make something good happen. I think it's a fair view.

Dude, you should change your nom de plume to "6969" cause at least then there would be something worth reading when you post.

Posted by ActionJackson:

Posted by 4949:


Well, short of sounding like a racist, I look at this team and it's just about all black and I see no players with a good game here. So isn't it worth while to try something different here? I mean sometimes you really do need 'diversity' to make something good happen. I think it's a fair view.

Dude, you should change your nom de plume to "6969" cause at least then there would be something worth reading when you post.

You haven't been here long enough to tell me what I'm worth. And who the f__k are you?

Posted by 4949:

Posted by iyamwutiam:

Best players period. Peja/Yao/Gasol/Miller/Nowitzki, Nash - can be starters on any NBA team. It's not about 'diversity' its about talent. I would hate to see - any continued discrimination in this day and age. There are a lot f latin players in baseball - not because they are latin but because they are better/work harder on their game. Look at the french players - Parker/ Diaw etc- its not about where your from - its about how good your game is-

I am so tired of the KVH, Shuan Bradley/ Austin croshere lovers-

Well, short of sounding like a racist, I look at this team and it's just about all black and I see no players with a good game here. So isn't it worth while to try something different here? I mean sometimes you really do need 'diversity' to make something good happen. I think it's a fair view.

Its all about perspective. From your warped perspective this might sound fair but to me, you are really toeing the racist line. There should not be a quota on how many european players should be mandated to wear a Knick uniform. Ny is known as the melting pot but that doesn't mean we have to have a team reflect the various colors of the rainbow on our team. If thats the case, should the NBA mandate that half of the Utah Jazz be mormon?

This is a ridiculous notion on your part. Bottom line, Knicks need to figure a way to get the most talented pg they can find. It shouldn't matter what the pg backgorund is, as long as he fills a need.

And for you to say that when you look at this team, all you see is black....well....welcome to the NBA. And fr you to also mention that these black players dont have a good game, and they are lazy on defense really rubs me the wrong way. Not sure if you meant it that way but its the way I recieved it. Perspective.



[Edited by - bigbeast on 11-02-2008 08:48 AM]

Posted by 4949:


You haven't been here long enough to tell me what I'm worth. And who the f__k are you?

I am the voice of the voiceless my ignorant & slightly racist good man. I gather that I hit a nerve by calling you out & for that I am deeply sorry cause I know how important it is for a fool to wallow in his own B.S. but that crap you were spewing about wanting more "diversity"(code word for "white" in this scenario) on the team was worthy of a smackdown.
Now, if you wanted to get into a discussion about how they teach B-Ball in different parts of the world & ultimately how they're putting a better product on the floor in Europe/Asia/Africa then that would be something worthy of discussion but until then duck whenever you see me coming cause i'm gonna be here until the Knicks ride down the Canyon of Heroes.

We need more white guys (aka the Colorblind Chronicles of Riddick Bowe)

I'd settle for a Nigerian that plays center like Hakeen Olajuwon

I'd welcome African American Jerry Reese to GM the Knicks in his spare time

A Jamaican to play forward like Patrick Ewing

A Venezuelan to pitch like Johan Santana... hold up... already GOT that!

A point guard from France with a hottie wife

A Mexican with a fan following like Fernando Valenzuela

A Serbian power forward who bangs like Vlade Divac

A Dominican to make me laugh like Pedro

A Puerto Rican General Manager like Omar Minaya to pull the trigger

but most of all

For people like 4949 to understand the content of one's character (or ability to hit the open man) has absolutely nothing to do with the color of his skin, or his eyes