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BRIGGS
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1/21/2008  9:29 PM
18.1

1.65+ 3.55 for half year= 5.2mm

wally Z 25mm

6mm year 1===800K savings this year

year 2 5.3mm in savings

total 6.1mm in savings for Seattle and additional 5.3 in cap room next year

Insert him @ SF without taking on huge long term cash.
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1/21/2008  9:41 PM
Briggs that makes perfect sense so why would Zeke does it. He has perfected taking more money, better talent, and guys with issues
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1/21/2008  9:42 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

18.1

1.65+ 3.55 for half year= 5.2mm

wally Z 25mm

6mm year 1===800K savings this year

year 2 5.3mm in savings

total 6.1mm in savings for Seattle and additional 5.3 in cap room next year

Insert him @ SF without taking on huge long term cash.



Why add to the Cluster of Starphucking for a player with a suspect knee? He's been playing this yr but not a ton of minutes. He plays no D at all. We need not to take on anymore salary at all cost. If anything you could probably trade Jones and Malik for 2 second round picks possibly picking up TE's in the process even if they are small. Where does that put our small forward total at Briggs 15 small forwards?

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-21-2008 8:43 PM]
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1/21/2008  9:45 PM
If you're gonna get a guy who doesn't play D, you might as well get someone who's actually GOOD at something else, and Wally can shoot and we need a couple of shooters for the offense instead of Q and Fred and JJ.

I'd do that trade.
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1/21/2008  9:51 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

If you're gonna get a guy who doesn't play D, you might as well get someone who's actually GOOD at something else, and Wally can shoot and we need a couple of shooters for the offense instead of Q and Fred and JJ.

I'd do that trade.

A move like this stunts rebuilding properly. We can't find a younger cheaper shooter in the league than Wally?
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1/21/2008  10:20 PM
Oh God, when Eny sees this he's going to flip his lid.
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1/21/2008  10:22 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:

18.1

1.65+ 3.55 for half year= 5.2mm

wally Z 25mm

6mm year 1===800K savings this year

year 2 5.3mm in savings

total 6.1mm in savings for Seattle and additional 5.3 in cap room next year

Insert him @ SF without taking on huge long term cash.



Why add to the Cluster of Starphucking for a player with a suspect knee? He's been playing this yr but not a ton of minutes. He plays no D at all. We need not to take on anymore salary at all cost. If anything you could probably trade Jones and Malik for 2 second round picks possibly picking up TE's in the process even if they are small. Where does that put our small forward total at Briggs 15 small forwards?

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-21-2008 8:43 PM]

There is no rebuilding here brother. What we need to do is revamp and go. I do think we need to move Curry to the 6th man and move Lee into the starting position and let them all get 30 minutes. I think Lee can bring more enrgy to start the game and eddy can dominate second line players.

Why does Wally Z make sense? well we can move Q rich[because we have to] to starting 2 g and Jamal to 1--insert Waaly Z at SF where we can have a CONSISTENT scorer from the wing to go along with Jamal. I will save the lottery pick with ending contract to trade unless I get Beasley Gordon Rose or Bayless ----Knicks WILL NOT accept any project even if it has huge upside--they didnt do it with Bynum and no one else is close to that--so they wont do that. Maybe we can do what Layden did with Mcdyess with Brand---lottery pick player and get back later first rounder=== Billy Walker or DJ White.
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1/21/2008  10:29 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Oh God, when Eny sees this he's going to flip his lid.

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1/21/2008  10:35 PM
LOL! thats great Eny.

I've never been a direct fan of trading for Wally. While I like his game, his knee has given him a multitude of problems and his contract has been extremely unappealing.

With that said, since next year is his last year, it might not be a bad time to go after him at this time, especially if we're only giving up Jones and Rose. Would the Sonics do it? I think they might.
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1/21/2008  10:45 PM
how about we play Wilson Chandler some minutes & see what he can do?
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1/21/2008  10:48 PM
Posted by TMS:

how about we play Wilson Chandler some minutes & see what he can do?

Whose Wilson Chandler?
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1/21/2008  10:57 PM
I don't like it - why take on more salary for a player who has been traded a ton of times for being a career disappointment. He has no speed, no hops, a bad leg and who over the last 3 years shoots 40 % from the field - though he does shoot 42 percent from the 3.

Next year - Freddie comes off the cap anyway. We will have 30 million bux of the cap- thats enough incentive for someone to take Q and if the right trade comes along maybe package curry. I am really really REALLY hoping we can give up :
+30 Million + Curry, Lee, Balkman, James, Collins for Elton Brand, Kaman and Maggette- since we would have Chandler, Jeffries, Q, Nate on the bench.

This team is not going anywhere this year- so why not wait - we have the fattest bunch of expiring contracts in the NBA , at least two good rookies teams are interested in - I would love to see a draft day trade -:
The Knicks trade their number one pick Balkman, Curry, James, Collins, Jeffries, 4 NYC dancers, Marbury, Q Rich and Malik Rose -for Brand, Kaman and Maggettee. Woo-hooo- the crowd goes wild!!!

[Edited by - iyamwutiam on 01-21-2008 10:59 PM]
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1/21/2008  11:07 PM
Posted by TMS:

how about we play Wilson Chandler some minutes & see what he can do?

Bingo and no one wants Q-Rich by himself in a trade with his bad back an extra extra extra extra extra B aby Fat.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-21-2008 10:09 PM]
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1/21/2008  11:16 PM
Could we throw in a player for their extra first rounder like Collins????
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1/22/2008  12:29 AM
Posted by iyamwutiam:

I don't like it - why take on more salary for a player who --- shoot 42 percent from the 3.

Because outside shooting help is needed and because it aint your money
Next year - Freddie comes off the cap anyway. We will have 30 million bux of the cap- thats enough incentive for someone to take Q and if the right trade comes along maybe package curry.

Better to buy out Q, I think, than use expiring contracts to flip him.
I am really really REALLY hoping we can give up :
+30 Million + Curry, Lee, Balkman, James, Collins for Elton Brand, Kaman and Maggette- since we would have Chandler, Jeffries, Q, Nate on the bench.

The CBA would not allow this deal.
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1/22/2008  1:04 AM
It would mean resigning - Elton/Kaman -you can make salaries match and stuff- i mean think about the ridiculous deal that Seattle and Orlando made. The guy was in for 60 M - and all of a sudden he is getting a 100M contract. All I am saying is -that Donal Sterling is the cheapest owner in Bball. Get the guys together - and something would be worked out - fo sho.

Brand/kaman would be awesome- you get everything you want- an awesome frontcourt that can actually produce AND play defense.
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1/22/2008  1:59 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Allanfan20:

If you're gonna get a guy who doesn't play D, you might as well get someone who's actually GOOD at something else, and Wally can shoot and we need a couple of shooters for the offense instead of Q and Fred and JJ.

I'd do that trade.

A move like this stunts rebuilding properly. We can't find a younger cheaper shooter in the league than Wally?

I completely agree that we need to rebuild and I'd rather get a young shooter who can grow up with Curry (assuming we're building around him) but I don't see it happening with Isiah hanging around, and I don't see him going anytime soon, so it's not a bad move if you wanna make moves to win a few extra games now, without totally mortgaging the future.
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1/22/2008  6:42 AM
Wally isn't signed forever. If Chandler is that good he will emerge eventually. In the meantime, Wally Z is not missing the shots Q does. That's a given. Wally also brings firey energy. He's not athletic but he's about where Q is at. Do the Knicks need him to touch the top of the backboard? No. They need him to get 3's and in between jumpers in the flow of the offense......that's his thing right now.

How awesome would it be to have him standing in the corner as the ball is swinging his way?

Jones and Malik? That's all? Knicks gotta pay them anyway?.......oh yeah and it frees up a roster spot? It must be Sunday morning out this mofo.....
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1/22/2008  6:48 AM
Posted by iyamwutiam:

It would mean resigning - Elton/Kaman -you can make salaries match and stuff- i mean think about the ridiculous deal that Seattle and Orlando made. The guy was in for 60 M - and all of a sudden he is getting a 100M contract. All I am saying is -that Donal Sterling is the cheapest owner in Bball. Get the guys together - and something would be worked out - fo sho.

Brand/kaman would be awesome- you get everything you want- an awesome frontcourt that can actually produce AND play defense.

The Clipps would trade their 3 best players for no reason? What would make them say, "yo we gotta do this son!"

I think they would egg and t-p your house if you came at them with that.


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1/22/2008  7:37 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:

18.1

1.65+ 3.55 for half year= 5.2mm

wally Z 25mm

6mm year 1===800K savings this year

year 2 5.3mm in savings

total 6.1mm in savings for Seattle and additional 5.3 in cap room next year

Insert him @ SF without taking on huge long term cash.



Why add to the Cluster of Starphucking for a player with a suspect knee? He's been playing this yr but not a ton of minutes. He plays no D at all. We need not to take on anymore salary at all cost. If anything you could probably trade Jones and Malik for 2 second round picks possibly picking up TE's in the process even if they are small. Where does that put our small forward total at Briggs 15 small forwards?

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-21-2008 8:43 PM]

There is no rebuilding here brother. What we need to do is revamp and go. I do think we need to move Curry to the 6th man and move Lee into the starting position and let them all get 30 minutes. I think Lee can bring more enrgy to start the game and eddy can dominate second line players.

Why does Wally Z make sense? well we can move Q rich[because we have to] to starting 2 g and Jamal to 1--insert Waaly Z at SF where we can have a CONSISTENT scorer from the wing to go along with Jamal. I will save the lottery pick with ending contract to trade unless I get Beasley Gordon Rose or Bayless ----Knicks WILL NOT accept any project even if it has huge upside--they didnt do it with Bynum and no one else is close to that--so they wont do that. Maybe we can do what Layden did with Mcdyess with Brand---lottery pick player and get back later first rounder=== Billy Walker or DJ White.
because what Layden did worked out so great!
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