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holfresh
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1/20/2008  12:57 PM
Big Giant fan here...I have always felt the Giants had the talent to make noise the last 4-5 years..Not necessarily the Championship but to scare some people...We never had the right coach or QB to realize their true potential...I think we are there now...I'm still not a believer in Coughlin and still think Manning lacks heart but they have gotten us this far and gets props for that...

We need help in the secondary but I think we have a fighters chance...It's going to be cold but we won't be the only ones cold...So suck it up Jints and let's shock the world!!!

GO GIANTS!!!!!
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1/20/2008  1:27 PM
Just one game for the rest of your lives!

Amani and Strahan know that these moments don't come often for most. Cease it fellas.

Terrell Owens knows his window may have shut on him last week. Don't go out like T.O.! I wanna see tears of joy!

Come on big blue! NYC is pulling for you!
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1/20/2008  1:30 PM
not a fan but I follow and root for them especially when they play the hated Cowboys. I'm just curious as to why Giants fans complain about a coach and young QB who have been successful with arguably the least talented roster in the NFC East the past few seasons.

funniest thing ever was the Giants fans I work with crying when they were 9-5 and had to face the indominable JP Losman to clinch. talking to the brass like they were all dumb ****s made it a A-plus work week in my book.

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1/20/2008  1:42 PM
Posted by McK1:

not a fan but I follow and root for them especially when they play the hated Cowboys. I'm just curious as to why Giants fans complain about a coach and young QB who have been successful with arguably the least talented roster in the NFC East the past few seasons.

funniest thing ever was the Giants fans I work with crying when they were 9-5 and had to face the indominable JP Losman to clinch. talking to the brass like they were all dumb ****s made it a A-plus work week in my book.

We complain because we think we have one of the more talented teams in the NFL...Stahan,Barber,Pierce,Toomer,Umenyiora,Tuck,Jacobs,Plaxico,Bradshaw,Shockey,MCKenzie,Robbins are all studs over the past few years...The worst player at their postion was Eli in my opinion...He held abck the progress of the team...Coughlin and his coordinators never got the job done given the talent, not until now...Same team different results when the QB started playing better and we brought in a better defensive coordinator...The play calling is still conservative and we almost lost against Dallas because of it...So we Giant fans aren't crazy...There is talent on this team...

[Edited by - holfresh on 01-20-2008 1:43 PM]
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1/20/2008  2:07 PM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by McK1:

not a fan but I follow and root for them especially when they play the hated Cowboys. I'm just curious as to why Giants fans complain about a coach and young QB who have been successful with arguably the least talented roster in the NFC East the past few seasons.

funniest thing ever was the Giants fans I work with crying when they were 9-5 and had to face the indominable JP Losman to clinch. talking to the brass like they were all dumb ****s made it a A-plus work week in my book.

We complain because we think we have one of the more talented teams in the NFL...Stahan,Barber,Pierce,Toomer,Umenyiora,Tuck,Jacobs,Plaxico,Bradshaw,Shockey,MCKenzie,Robbins are all studs over the past few years...The worst player at their postion was Eli in my opinion...He held abck the progress of the team...Coughlin and his coordinators never got the job done given the talent, not until now...Same team different results when the QB started playing better and we brought in a better defensive coordinator...The play calling is still conservative and we almost lost against Dallas because of it...So we Giant fans aren't crazy...There is talent on this team...

[Edited by - holfresh on 01-20-2008 1:43 PM]

holfresh is right, this team has had 1 of the more talented rosters w/the exception of the defensive secondary in the NFL for the past few seasons... when your team can barely manage an 8-8 record last year w/this much talent, fans are gonna complain, i'm sorry... if you were a Giant fan & had watched the games you'd know that they clearly underachieved the past couple seasons losing to inferior teams during the season & getting eliminated in the 1st round... this year the Giants finally took the next step in their progression... Eli seems to have finally taken over the leadership reigns on this team & they are clicking... the defense looks awesome w/a new D coordinator & the team is rallying behind a newly relaxed Tom Coughlin... there's no way you can legitimately say that the Giants have had 1 of the least talented rosters in the NFC East... Dallas is the only team that compares in that department, & personally i think they're a bit overrated.
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1/20/2008  2:07 PM
let's hope Strahan is up in Favre's grille all game long today... we're gonna need the pass rush if we wanna have any hope to win this game... last time they played this team this year Favre had all day long to find his recievers... we can't allow that to happen today. GO BIG BLUE!!!




Tiki, Tiki, Tiki... ya coulda been a part of this my man.




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1/20/2008  3:17 PM
TikiBury???

Team better without him???

Naw, too many variables!!!!!!

Nice to see them win today, and then pray for a miricle!!!!!!

Them Pats are tough!
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1/20/2008  4:24 PM
if the Giants were in the NFC West I'd understand thinking the talent should've produced more but the other teams in the NFC East have/had the "stars"


as for the talented rosters in the NFL comment, Giants don't make the play-offs any of Coughlin's years with that roster in the AFC

1st tier the last 4:

NE, Indy, Pitt, Baltimore, San Diego

2nd tier

Jax Tennessee Cincy Denver

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1/20/2008  4:33 PM

Speaking from a Giants fan perspective you won't get an argument there because of the QB play and the coaching...The secondary leave a lot to be desired as well...But you install a consistent QB, better coaching and play calling and a decent secondary, all of which is no small task, but I think they can play with anyone...
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1/20/2008  4:47 PM
Posted by McK1:

if the Giants were in the NFC West I'd understand thinking the talent should've produced more but the other teams in the NFC East have/had the "stars"


as for the talented rosters in the NFL comment, Giants don't make the play-offs any of Coughlin's years with that roster in the AFC

1st tier the last 4:

NE, Indy, Pitt, Baltimore, San Diego

2nd tier

Jax Tennessee Cincy Denver

other than Cooley & Sean Taylor who on the Skins is standing out in your mind? other than McNabb & Westbrook who are these stars you're referring to on the Eagles that put them on another level than the Giants? Tiki was 1 of the most productive backs in the NFL for the past few years running, every bit as good if not better than Westbrook & Portis, & the Giants' D Line have had 2 of the best pass rushing linemen in the game in Strahan & Osi... now w/the emergence of Tuck & Kiwanuka combined w/3 very good recievers in Plax, Toomer & Shockey there's no way you can tell me the Eagles or Skins have had more stars on their roster...

& IMO if u stack up the talent on the Giants' roster they'd stack up pretty well to teams like the Steelers, BAL & SD the past couple seasons... the only teams in the NFL that are a class above the rest IMO are the Colts & Pats the past few years.
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1/20/2008  5:19 PM
comment wasn't solely about this season.

Skins have had Moss Portis Springs Arrington to go along with Cooley and Taylor

Philly had McNabb TO Westbrook Trotter Lewis Kearse Dawkins

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Tiki = overrated. he is the 20&8 of runningbacks.

Plax in Pitt was the no. 2 receiver who was brought in to be a no. 1 receiver for a fresh meat QB.

Shockey is an emotional but he loses concentration out there.

Toomer is a solid receiver.

Strahan and Osi are good.

Pierce is good.

the younger players like Tuck are growing into their roles.

secondary is weak and old. needs to be upgraded



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1/20/2008  5:33 PM
how far are you going back here? TO only played in 7 games for the Eagles in '05 before going to DAL & his team won 6 games that year... Lavarr Arrington was 1 of the biggest busts in Skins' history & he didn't do anything for the Giants when he signed w/us either... Shawn Springs has been a disappointment for the Skins as well.
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Posted by TMS:

how far are you going back here? TO only played in 7 games for the Eagles in '05 before going to DAL & his team won 6 games that year... Lavarr Arrington was 1 of the biggest busts in Skins' history & he didn't do anything for the Giants when he signed w/us either... Shawn Springs has been a disappointment for the Skins as well.

going back as far as the Coughlin-Manning era began.

OK but in 04 Philly rode MCNabb-Owens-Westbrook to the superbowl. 05 they deactivated TO after 7 games and McNabb only played 9 games.

Arrington was still a name back then and Springs was a pro-bowl corner.
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1/20/2008  6:34 PM
no doubt in '04 the Eagles were a formidable championship calibre team, i'm not questioning that, but u can't expect the Giants to be on their level w/a rookie QB who only started playing halfway into the season... the Eagles have since taken a drastic downturn the past 3 seasons... pretty much the same story w/the Skins who were a 6 win team in '04, won 10 games in '05 then came back down to earth in '06 w/a 5-11 record... this past season they failed to make the playoffs yet again... as disappointing as Eli's been so far, he's been able to lead his team to the playoffs the past 3 years running.

[Edited by - TMS on 01-20-2008 3:35 PM]
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1/20/2008  6:42 PM
Shhhh the game is starting.
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1/20/2008  6:47 PM

Who the hell wants to live in a place that is so freaking cold...Coming from a guy from the Caribbean...
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1/20/2008  7:13 PM
Eli's on his game... decent start so far... defense is motivated & hitting hard... Toomer shoulda had that catch! DAMMIT!
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1/20/2008  7:32 PM
damn, this team is dominating this half & only up 6... gotta seal the deal when we get down in the red zone!
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1/20/2008  8:03 PM

Pierce is a stud...
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1/20/2008  8:07 PM
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