Flip still believes in him and they need backup point.
The only problem how they can make it work to balance the trade (with their 1st rounder included).
I am not sure they have assets for this...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2008/01/14/2008-01-14_flip_saunders_sees_stephon_marburys_fort.html

[Edited by - arkrud on 01-14-2008 12:45 PM]

Marbury can't help anyone that isn't ready to let him be "Starbury" and dominate a game and surround him with a team not unlike the Sixers team that went to the finals with Iverson gunning and everyone else deferring and doing the dirty work.

It would also be very unwise for us to trade Steph's 09 expiring. He should be sent home and bought out.

No trade returning longer contracts will ever help this team get on track.

Again, NO TRADE WILL:

Remind Zach it's a team game and defense is crucial.
Develop Curry into a defensive big man and teach him how to pass.
Have Crawful grow up and realize it's not a video game and there's this thing know as a BAD DECISION.
Have Malik turn back the clock to his championship form.
Have QRich's back, ankle, and elbow heal and have him get into tip top shape.

...and so on....and so forth.

Enough already. Trading Marbury will doom us to 2011 as the next point in time we could conceivably get UNDER the CAP and start a proper rebuild!

Flip feels sorry for him but I doubt he's jumping at the chance to reunite with him. If Flip doesn't make the Finals, he won't be around anyway. If anything, they'd sign him for the MLE once he's bought out or his contract expires since Joe and the players feel like they've got the right veterans in place to take on anyone a la the Patriots. And Steph would never utter a wrong word with Chauncey or Sheed around. But they'd never trade for him. You can pretty much add about 3 or 4 other teams to that list of teams that would take a chance as long as he was cheap. No one except the desperate for cap space would ever give up anything for him.

Posted by nysportsfan11:

Steph would never utter a wrong word with Chauncey or Sheed around.

i never thought he's create a problem for Isiah either, but he did... Steph is all about Steph man... that's been well documented by his past actions... i'm willing to bet money he'd have several members of that team wanting out of DET within a year if he ever went there & completely ruin the chemistry on that team.

yeah, i can see that Bonn... but personally i doubt the Knicks buy out Steph though... at least, not this season anyway... i can see Isiah trading him during the offseason for a longer term contract of a player that makes zero sense for our current roster.

[Edited by - TMS on 01-14-2008 2:18 PM]

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Maybe KG would get the Celtics to pursue Steph if Steph does a contract buyout with the Knicks and signs for the vets min. They're gonna need a better PG for the playoffs and Steph can still be a very good 2 way player when he wants to be.

Imagine that?

Knicks waive Marbs. Celtics sign him, Marbs helps lead the Celtics to win the NBA title! They will take every opportunity to trash the Knicks and Marbs whole career will be vindicated....

Maybe we should just keep him, lmao!

You're nuts if you think Marbury is the missing piece to anyone's SUCCESS. He is a ballhogging cancer that will DESTROY the Celtics.

In that, yes, by all means, buy him out, and steer him to Boston.


The only way that guys like Marbury works is if they are surrounded by NO NAME HARD WORKING ROLE PLAYERS allowing him to be THE dominant force on a team. Again, as I said and it gets IGNORED, the Sixers team that went to the Finals with Iverson gunning and guys like Snow, McKie, Lynch, Deke cleaning up his mess......

Guys like MARBURY, FRANCIS, RANDOLPH do not work in ANY OTHER WAY.

Posted by EnySpree:

Cosmic - but Marbs going to the Celtics after being waived and winning the championship is the ONLY way it can go down!

Come on man. We haven't suffered enough. Watching Marbs in Celtic green riding ray, kg and pierce to a ship' would lower NYC's population by 60%. Why cuz everyone will spontaniously combust! Not just diehards but the casual fans too.

Its the only way it could end, lmao!

It would never happen.

Marbury with a big role on the Celtics means less touches for PP, RA, KG... which means a less efficient team. It wouldn't happen.

No matter how much you try to invoke the Knick Curse... it just won't happen.

Look how well Francis worked out in Houston? Look at them even though he does not play? Yeah, Marbury will have the same effect you can believe that.

Buy him out, pray he gets signed to the Celtics or Suns or Spurs or Mavs or Pistons... and whoever he signs with? Is done.

I doubt any team wants Stef except for his expiring contract next year worth 20 mill. If yu guys remember - Stef came out with a bizarro statement in the summer - that he was going to playin Italy and that his numbers were up there with the 'greatest' PG to ever play the game.

As soon as I read this - I KNEW that Stef was shot down in his bid to extract an extension from the Knicks and basically he knew he was done as a Knick and an NBA player. You can only fool people so many times - and no doubt Isiah got fooled and schooled when the believed Marbury's story about never being appreciated and how he would be an excellent leader and be the person a GM could build a team around.

My condolences go out to him regarding the loss of his father - and I know that it can not be easy. But the facts are he knew going into this season - there was no extension for him and he would (most likely) be traded next year for the value of his expiring contract = I mean just look how much Theo Ratliff's expiring contract was deal maker.

The Knicks have two (Malike Rose and Marbury) for a cool 27 million - which will give them a lot of leverage.

I actually like the combo of Nate and Crawford at the guard position. Nate deserves a lot f credit for a 5'9" guy working his tail off to improve his shooting, ball handling, reducing his turnovers and always hustling. Crawford has been playing 40 minutes a game for every game and he too has improved on his trunovers and shot selection. Most of all- it is about time he starting taking it into the paint and htting the floaters and short jumpshots- long overdue IMO. He is also getting to the foul lne more- as his Attempts are up by 4 per game this year.


I would not buy Marbury out - I think trading him for his expiring contract is the best way to pay him back for all his selfishness while in NY and hampering the development of other players. It is mindboggling to me - that with Curry in the Post - he hasn't gotten him the ball more- as opposed to crawford - who does a decent job of understanding -that while Curry may not play defence - he is close to being a 60 percent Fg -dominant force -if you get hm the ball in decent situations.

Steph on the celtics- is that formidable or factoral?

The thing is wining humbles a person no matter how pig headed one can be. When your joining a winning team and the enviroment and locker room is positive, everything changes( rasheed, TO, Moss, celts trio) to name a few. To say steph will go to any winning team and destroy there chemistry is far fetch at best. Steph wants to win he just doesn't know how, and he's no leader.

Put him around an establish Leader and winning locker room and watch the difference.

Please buy him out now. His large expiring contract next season only means we take back more sh it with bloated long term contracts. Some people are under the delusion that somehow an expiring contract means you get back quality talent. The only way you get back QUALITY talent is when you give up something of TRUE value. When the Celtics got KG, they gave up Al Jefferson. Where is our Al Jefferson to package with Stiffbury? I seriously doubt David Lee and Marbury will bring us back a TRUE difference maker. We need to unload our ENTIRE roster before we can move forward.