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TrueBlue
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12/26/2007  11:39 AM
I wouldn't really know how to rank them at this point. I may have to put Curry last.


Take for instance....

If Randolph and Curry are worth Kwame, possibly a 2nd round pick and only one could fetch the deal, then where does this leave the remaining player?

Could Jamal fetch the same deal?

Some said a couple weeks back Marbury could fetch us Darius Miles & Joel Pyrzbilla from Portland. Is that better or worse than the above?
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12/26/2007  11:41 AM
I have no idea. Randolph? he's the best player on the team but he has a big contract, so I dunno........
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12/26/2007  11:48 AM
Where is this Kwame Brown talk coming from? Does anyone think Kwame is equal value to Zach Randolph or even Eddy Curry for that matter? With or without a pick I wouldn't make that deal.

We have valued assets... it's the contracts that scare opposing GM's away from acquiring our players. We have a high talent level bunch, but they are not smart.. and most believe that there play does not merit there pay
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12/26/2007  11:49 AM
Posted by SlimPack:

I have no idea. Randolph? he's the best player on the team but he has a big contract, so I dunno........

It's interesting when you look at all aspects of trading and when you consider us setting our market on players when buyout the mistakes. If I'm a gm from another team and I SAY UGH makes a call to me, I'll suspect he's a breath away from buying out(maybe Dolan has officially put the clamps on this) one of his players. So I'm starting with the lint in my pocket to get things rolling in the right direction.
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12/26/2007  11:53 AM
Posted by JaydeeNYC:

Where is this Kwame Brown talk coming from? Does anyone think Kwame is equal value to Zach Randolph or even Eddy Curry for that matter? With or without a pick I wouldn't make that deal.

We have valued assets... it's the contracts that scare opposing GM's away from acquiring our players. We have a high talent level bunch, but they are not smart.. and most believe that there play does not merit there pay


There are a large portion of fans who would do a Kwame deal involving either of those two. The gleanings from such trade would be hope towards a plan.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-26-2007 10:53 AM]
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12/26/2007  11:57 AM
I would. Curry sucks, and we need draft picks, and to clear cap room.
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12/26/2007  11:59 AM
If Randolph and Curry are worth Kwame, possibly a 2nd round pick and only one could fetch the deal, then where does this leave the remaining player?

True I understand that you feel almost everyone on this roster is garbage but Kwame Brown is complete garbage. This only further reinforces that some of you should just stop trying to be NBA GMs. This isn't a game of Monopoly!
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12/26/2007  11:59 AM
If you woulnd't get rid of him for an expiring deal your on crack. He doesn't work is selfish and portland is playing better with the same team from last year without him.

We need active defender out there and need to build up eddys trade value again.....
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12/26/2007  12:01 PM
Posted by MS:

If you woulnd't get rid of him for an expiring deal your on crack. He doesn't work is selfish and portland is playing better with the same team from last year without him.

We need active defender out there and need to build up eddys trade value again.....

I don't give a damn what Brown's deal is the guy is garbage oh by the way Lebron called he isn't going to be coming to NY anytime soon.

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12/26/2007  12:02 PM
Posted by bitty41:
If Randolph and Curry are worth Kwame, possibly a 2nd round pick and only one could fetch the deal, then where does this leave the remaining player?

True I understand that you feel almost everyone on this roster is garbage but Kwame Brown is complete garbage. This only further reinforces that some of you should just stop trying to be NBA GMs. This isn't a game of Monopoly!
Kwame is also garbage, but he's garbage with a much shorter contract!

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12/26/2007  12:03 PM
Posted by bitty41:
If Randolph and Curry are worth Kwame, possibly a 2nd round pick and only one could fetch the deal, then where does this leave the remaining player?

True I understand that you feel almost everyone on this roster is garbage but Kwame Brown is complete garbage. This only further reinforces that some of you should just stop trying to be NBA GMs. This isn't a game of Monopoly!


We don't want Kwame the "PLAYER" bitty. We want his "EXPIRING" which would be perfect "GM" thinking/philosophy.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-26-2007 11:04 AM]
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12/26/2007  12:06 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by bitty41:
If Randolph and Curry are worth Kwame, possibly a 2nd round pick and only one could fetch the deal, then where does this leave the remaining player?

True I understand that you feel almost everyone on this roster is garbage but Kwame Brown is complete garbage. This only further reinforces that some of you should just stop trying to be NBA GMs. This isn't a game of Monopoly!
Kwame is also garbage, but he's garbage with a much shorter contract!


Now is there a better expiring deal out there, this I haven't deeply investigated. So which one do we deal Bonn and what other deals can we drum up from the left over residue?
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12/26/2007  12:07 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:


There are a large portion of fans who would do a Kwame deal involving either of those two. The gleanings from such trade would be hope towards a plan.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-26-2007 10:53 AM]


I hear you playa, but who are the fans? What would be the plan? I highly doubt that Zach's money is the major reason for our salary cap woes... the pick would likely result in another marginal talent player. How would this result in effective planning.

I think you keep Zach.. say what you want the kid is a stud, he is a ballhog but he fills up the buckets and is a force. You don't give up players like this... I think Portland was silly for making this move as well. They are winning right now, but that is due to a soft schedule and a good x's and o's coach, did I also mention that there young guns are now stepping up

[Edited by - JaydeeNYC on 12-26-2007 12:09 PM]
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12/26/2007  12:09 PM
We don't want Kwame the "PLAYER" bitty. We want his "EXPIRING" which would be a perfect "GM" thinking/philosophy.

I don't give a shyt about expiring or not expiring because explain to me where we will get this magical power forward or center through a free-agent signing? Guess what MR GM there all taken up and locked into deals so unless you would prefer Pau Gasol or Mr I'm always hurt Jermaine O'Neal he isn't available. Because Howard, Yao, Boozer sure as hell aren't coming to NY anytime soon.

So your left with oh this is rich Kwame Brown and David Lee as your starting 4 and 5. Then of course our guards Meybury, Crawawful, and Q Brick yea that will be a pretty sweet team. Oh thats right I forgot we're going to get the number 1 pick this summer then in 2009 Lebron or Kobe will sign with us. Do I have it right so far?

[Edited by - bitty41 on 12-26-2007 12:11 PM]

[Edited by - bitty41 on 12-26-2007 12:12 PM]
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12/26/2007  12:11 PM
Posted by bitty41:
We don't want Kwame the "PLAYER" bitty. We want his "EXPIRING" which would be a perfect "GM" thinking/philosophy.

I don't give a shyt about expiring or not expiring because explain to me where we will get this magical power forward or center through a free-agent signing? Guess what MR GM there all taken up and locked into deals unless you would prefer Pau Gasol or Mr I'm always hurt Jermaine O'Neal. Because Howard, Yao, Boozer sure as hell aren't coming to NY anytime soon.

So your left with oh this is rich Kwame Brown and David Lee as your starting 4 and 5. Then of course our guards Meybury, Crawawful, and Q Brick yea that will be a pretty sweet team. Oh thats right I forgot we're going to get the number 1 pick this summer then in 2009 Lebron or Kobe will sign with us. Do I have it right so far?

I'm pretty sure Trueblue was looking at this from a rebuilding perspective. not a still trying to remain competitive right now perspective.
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12/26/2007  12:14 PM
This is a trick question and it depends on the team. Curry would be worth more to the Bulls than to the Spurs. Marbury would be worth more to the Lakers(I would do a Steph for Kwame deal in a heartbeat) than to ,say, the Hornets.
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12/26/2007  12:14 PM
Posted by JaydeeNYC:
Posted by TrueBlue:


There are a large portion of fans who would do a Kwame deal involving either of those two. The gleanings from such trade would be hope towards a plan.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-26-2007 10:53 AM]


I hear you playa, but who are the fans? What would be the plan? I highly doubt that Zach's money is the major reason for our salary cap woes... the pick would likely result in another marginal talent player. How would this result in effective planning.

I think you keep Zach.. say what you want the kid is a stud, he is a ballhog but he fills up the buckets and is a force. You don't give up players like this... I think Portland was silly for making this move as well. They are winning right now, but that is due to a soft schedule and a good x's and o's coach, did I also mention that there young guns are now stepping up


[Edited by - JaydeeNYC on 12-26-2007 12:09 PM]


Please do me a favor, go back and look at their 11gm winning streak. They beat several decent teams, a few on back-to-backs. If giving up a guy like that is a mistake, they should be suffering we should be prospering. They can improve on top of what they are doing down the road because they have cap flexibility.
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12/26/2007  12:14 PM
And I addressed that how do you rebuild from this assuming best case scenario you get a number 1 pick. So what powerforward or center out there that is available would you use Brown's expiring contract to attain?
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12/26/2007  12:16 PM
The xpiring contracts of Marb and Malik will have the most value this summer.

As far as the actual players are concered, I think it depends on what team we are trying to make a deal with. Example, a GM with an ego the size of Isiahs (Pat Riley) and feel they are the ones that can turn a talented yet flawed player into a very good player (Craw, Zach), then a deal can be made. Or a team that feels they are one player away (Cleve, Lakers, Bucks) from either making the playoffs or advancing deep into the playoffs might take on a player like Curry (Bucks? Miami?), Craw (miami?) or Zach (Lakers?, Bulls?)

Currys presence and age can still be a bit intriguing to some and his contract isn't unreasonable. Curry can probably be moved for a bum and a first round pick.
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12/26/2007  12:17 PM
Posted by joec32033:

This is a trick question and it depends on the team. Curry would be worth more to the Bulls than to the Spurs. Marbury would be worth more to the Lakers(I would do a Steph for Kwame deal in a heartbeat) than to ,say, the Hornets.

You take all those things into consideration with the question. More "TRADE VALUE" would encompass having possibly more trading partners. The more limited trading partners the less value such player has. I disagree with with Marbury giving the Lakers anymore value than their current back court. To run the triangle you have to be smart and a quick thinker

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-26-2007 11:20 AM]
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