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holfresh
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12/22/2007  10:14 AM

Stephon Marbury has filed a grievance with the NBA over a $195,000 fine assessed by the New York Knicks when he left the team during a road trip, allegedly without permission, the New York Post reported.

The newspaper said according to a source, the Knicks intend to waive the fine against Marbury, who has been grieving the death of his father. But Marbury had to file the appeal within 30 days of receiving notice of the fine to preserve his right to fight the fine.

The fine dates back to the Knicks' game against the Phoenix Suns on Nov. 13, which Marbury missed -- reportedly after was told he would not be starting and confronted coach Isiah Thomas on the plane to Phoenix.

Marbury, who told the Post he had permission from Thomas to leave the team, rejoined the Knicks for their next game in Los Angeles against the Clippers. At the time, ESPN.com reported that Marbury intended to appeal the fine.

Since the incident, Marbury has had to deal with the death of his father.

Don Marbury died Dec. 2 during the Knicks' home loss to the Suns. He was taken from Madison Square Garden to St. Vincent's Hospital and Medical Center during halftime, reportedly because of chest pains, but a family member advised a Knicks official not to inform Stephon Marbury at the time.

Marbury learned of his father's death from a family friend minutes after the game.

Since his father's death, Marbury has missed seven of the Knicks' last 10 games, including Friday night's loss to the Charlotte Bobcats.

Thomas said Marbury's status for Sunday's home game against the Los Angeles Lakers was uncertain.

"Emotionally he's indicated to us he's just not ready. I think we should all be respectful of that," Thomas said. "I know myself and our organization will be. We'll give him as much time as he needs."
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12/22/2007  10:49 AM
There goes any chance he opts out this summer or retires.

He is money hungry. Not that I'd leave 195K to the wolves or 21M on the table...but it just solidifies that Marbury isn't going down without a fight.

Sad. He has no mental or physical capacity to play basketball but he's up and running when it comes to his cash owed. I think this shows even more in what a bad place he's in.

Buy him out. PLEASE!!!
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12/22/2007  11:17 AM
If anything it really crystallizes what type of person he truly is. It just proves he really is a LOSER. Anybody with even a shred of self respect would have quit long ago, instead he choses to hang around for money while being a complete cancer on the team and knowing it. He should be sent to the D-League and left to rot.
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12/22/2007  11:43 AM
u can bash on Marbury for leaving the team the way he did, & for even filing some silly grievance on this fine when he knew walking out on the team was the wrong thing to do & completely unprofessional to begin with... but u can't bash the guy for wanting to collect the money that's owed to him on his contract... not 1 of us would have walked away from those millions so let's not be hypocrites.

Allan Houston was a well-respected former Knick & he took a lot more money from MSG than Marbury did his last couple seasons... he clung onto trying to make his comebacks because he didn't want to retire... that way he was able to collect on the rest of the money that was coming to him on the contract he signed... who the hell walks away from 8 figures?
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12/22/2007  1:15 PM
Posted by TMS:

u can bash on Marbury for leaving the team the way he did, & for even filing some silly grievance on this fine when he knew walking out on the team was the wrong thing to do & completely unprofessional to begin with... but u can't bash the guy for wanting to collect the money that's owed to him on his contract... not 1 of us would have walked away from those millions so let's not be hypocrites.

Allan Houston was a well-respected former Knick & he took a lot more money from MSG than Marbury did his last couple seasons... he clung onto trying to make his comebacks because he didn't want to retire... that way he was able to collect on the rest of the money that was coming to him on the contract he signed... who the hell walks away from 8 figures?

exactamundo. marbury didn't force phoenix to give him that ridiculous contract. nor did he force ny to trade for that ridiculous contract. as much as I don't like his impact on this team I have no problem with his collecting every penny of the money that was signed up for on that contract.
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12/22/2007  1:21 PM

^^Translation...Don't hate the player...Hate the game...
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12/22/2007  1:34 PM
Posted by TMS:

u can bash on Marbury for leaving the team the way he did, & for even filing some silly grievance on this fine when he knew walking out on the team was the wrong thing to do & completely unprofessional to begin with... but u can't bash the guy for wanting to collect the money that's owed to him on his contract... not 1 of us would have walked away from those millions so let's not be hypocrites.

Allan Houston was a well-respected former Knick & he took a lot more money from MSG than Marbury did his last couple seasons... he clung onto trying to make his comebacks because he didn't want to retire... that way he was able to collect on the rest of the money that was coming to him on the contract he signed... who the hell walks away from 8 figures?

Wrong! This has nothing to do with whether he forced the contract or not. Stop comparing him to us we don't have millions lying around in our banks so we could walk away from a few more, but he DOES!! (Well at least I don't). So whether I would be able to walk away from that money is not fair question to ask me. I do know this however, I would be more than willing to walk away from what I make now if my self respect was being affected by it. So there is no hypocrisy involved in what I said. Just because Allan Houston was greedy as a pig does not make that the right behavior. I am calling him what he is regardless of how people feel about it.
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12/22/2007  1:41 PM
This is classless of Marbury. The team is letting him take as much time as he needs with father, outside the bounds of normalcy and now Marbury wants $200k back for leaving the team without permission for a game.

This team is sad.
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12/22/2007  2:00 PM
Posted by Solace:

This is classless of Marbury. The team is letting him take as much time as he needs with father, outside the bounds of normalcy and now Marbury wants $200k back for leaving the team without permission for a game.

This team is sad.


And you had morons here just yesterday trying to defend his actions of being distant from the team when I clearly tried to set them that the behind the scenes of his actions are predominantly motivated by selfishness and about what's best for him. He's suckering so many into thinking he's a beaten soul from his father's death.
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12/22/2007  2:29 PM

195k is 195k not matter how much you make..It has the same buying power ...And anyone here saying they would walk away from that for reasons such as principle is lying...Better yet, I don't believe them...
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12/22/2007  2:32 PM
Posted by holfresh:


195k is 195k not matter how much you make..It has the same buying power ...And anyone here saying they would walk away from that for reasons such as principle is lying...Better yet, I don't believe them...




All he had to do was let the process run its course. From he sound of things at some point further discussions may have taken place between he and the Knicks over the fine but once again a player who's thinking about his dad also has to make sure financial Priorities, when already wealthy, are 1 and 1a.
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12/22/2007  2:39 PM
Posted by holfresh:


195k is 195k not matter how much you make..It has the same buying power ...And anyone here saying they would walk away from that for reasons such as principle is lying...Better yet, I don't believe them...

In light of what the Knicks are doing for him, it's an outrage. If I'm the Knicks, I say that the next game he's not in uniform and giving his full effort, because of his extended grieving, he should be docked for that game. You can't have it both ways.

The Knicks have been extremely reasonable in this case. Marbury is taking advantage of that generosity. He now wants his money back for an incident in which he clearly didn't have permission to leave the team. Idiot.
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12/22/2007  2:43 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by holfresh:


195k is 195k not matter how much you make..It has the same buying power ...And anyone here saying they would walk away from that for reasons such as principle is lying...Better yet, I don't believe them...

In light of what the Knicks are doing for him, it's an outrage. If I'm the Knicks, I say that the next game he's not in uniform and giving his full effort, because of his extended grieving, he should be docked for that game. You can't have it both ways.

The Knicks have been extremely reasonable in this case. Marbury is taking advantage of that generosity. He now wants his money back for an incident in which he clearly didn't have permission to leave the team. Idiot.

I think that is the entire agrument...Isiah told him to leave if he didn't like the decision...Now, I am not saying he should have left, I think he is an idiot for doing so...But there is an argument that he had permission...

And regarding the Knicks being patient with him...One thing doesn't have anything to do with the other...It doesn't really translate...





[Edited by - holfresh on 12-22-2007 2:44 PM]
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12/22/2007  2:44 PM
Posted by holfresh:


195k is 195k not matter how much you make..It has the same buying power ...And anyone here saying they would walk away from that for reasons such as principle is lying...Better yet, I don't believe them...


200K is 1% of his pay check.
I guess he has more that this from business, but lets say same.
So 200K is 0.5% of his income.

0.5% of my family income is 750$.
It's good money for me but not enough to sell my pride.
Is 0.5% of you income enough for you to sell your pride?


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12/22/2007  2:46 PM
Posted by TMS:

u can bash on Marbury for leaving the team the way he did, & for even filing some silly grievance on this fine when he knew walking out on the team was the wrong thing to do & completely unprofessional to begin with... but u can't bash the guy for wanting to collect the money that's owed to him on his contract... not 1 of us would have walked away from those millions so let's not be hypocrites.

Allan Houston was a well-respected former Knick & he took a lot more money from MSG than Marbury did his last couple seasons... he clung onto trying to make his comebacks because he didn't want to retire... that way he was able to collect on the rest of the money that was coming to him on the contract he signed... who the hell walks away from 8 figures?

I would also like to add on the other hand, that I thouroughly believe that stephone brought this whole thing upon himself, as well as the entire team. He is the very reason why Brown was shipped out and why Isiah finds himself on the sidelines, waiting to be next. These contracts desperately need all kinds of clauses in them. Especially if MSG is going to be handing out massive amounts of money. I'd like just 'ONE' of you's to justify paying someone with mental problems 20 million ****'n dollars! Just one of you! Come out and justify it. We'll know who jumped in the truck!
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12/22/2007  2:47 PM
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by holfresh:


195k is 195k not matter how much you make..It has the same buying power ...And anyone here saying they would walk away from that for reasons such as principle is lying...Better yet, I don't believe them...


200K is 1% of his pay check.
I guess he has more that this from business, but lets say same.
So 200K is 0.5% of his income.

0.5% of my family income is 750$.
It's good money for me but not enough to sell my pride.
Is 0.5% of you income enough for you to sell your pride?

200k could build 5 Katrina houses in New Orleans...Thats a lot of dough not matter how much you make...
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12/22/2007  2:50 PM
lol...people wanted Steph away from the team now are upset that he is staying away. If the resurfacing of Steph as a business matter b/n he and the league has a negative effect on the team than it just goes to show how mentally unprepared for competition this team is.

Personally I have no problem with Marbury not trusting a hand-shake agreement with Knicks brass.

Would any of you??????

Steph at this point is not the problem.

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12/22/2007  2:52 PM
Posted by McK1:

lol...people wanted Steph away from the team now are upset that he is staying away. If the resurfacing of Steph as a business matter b/n he and the league has a negative effect on the team than it just goes to show how mentally unprepared for competition this team is.

Personally I have no problem with Marbury not trusting a hand-shake agreement with Knicks brass.

Would any of you??????

Steph at this point is not the problem.


Why would anyone in their right mind worry about stephons money of all things?
I'll never trust this' team again.
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12/22/2007  2:52 PM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by holfresh:


195k is 195k not matter how much you make..It has the same buying power ...And anyone here saying they would walk away from that for reasons such as principle is lying...Better yet, I don't believe them...


200K is 1% of his pay check.
I guess he has more that this from business, but lets say same.
So 200K is 0.5% of his income.

0.5% of my family income is 750$.
It's good money for me but not enough to sell my pride.
Is 0.5% of you income enough for you to sell your pride?

200k could build 5 Katrina houses in New Orleans...Thats a lot of dough not matter how much you make...


How you know that Steph is planning to donate this 200K?
Actually if he will do this - he will be THE MAN and I will have no problems with this stuff.







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12/22/2007  2:53 PM
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by holfresh:


195k is 195k not matter how much you make..It has the same buying power ...And anyone here saying they would walk away from that for reasons such as principle is lying...Better yet, I don't believe them...


200K is 1% of his pay check.
I guess he has more that this from business, but lets say same.
So 200K is 0.5% of his income.

0.5% of my family income is 750$.
It's good money for me but not enough to sell my pride.
Is 0.5% of you income enough for you to sell your pride?

200k could build 5 Katrina houses in New Orleans...Thats a lot of dough not matter how much you make...


How you know that Steph is planning to donate this 200K?
Actually if he will do this - he will be THE MAN and I will have no problems with this stuff.





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