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boykins2
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12/13/2007  8:06 AM
Good company's give 3 paid days. Average company's give you one paid day only. Many have no paid days as policy.
MSG--------take as long as you want------we'll pay you-------
I'm sure the corporate policy is being broken.
I wonder how fast he would be back if he wasn't being paid.

Is this a fair topic to discuss?

[Edited by - boykins2 on 12-13-2007 08:07 AM]
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12/13/2007  10:48 AM
Good company's give 3 paid days. Average company's give you one paid day only. Many have no paid days as policy.
MSG--------take as long as you want------we'll pay you-------
I'm sure the corporate policy is being broken.
I wonder how fast he would be back if he wasn't being paid.

Is this a fair topic to discuss?

NO! It is in very bad taste.
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12/13/2007  10:52 AM
I feel bad for Marbury but I think you're right boykins.. how many days is this guy going to get off? Personally, I think it has more to do with the fact that Isiah doesn't want him around anyways.
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12/13/2007  10:58 AM
Posted by mikesknicks:
Good company's give 3 paid days. Average company's give you one paid day only. Many have no paid days as policy.
MSG--------take as long as you want------we'll pay you-------
I'm sure the corporate policy is being broken.
I wonder how fast he would be back if he wasn't being paid.

Is this a fair topic to discuss?

NO! It is in very bad taste.


No he is right. I bet you that the garden-variety garden employee doesn't get that much time off.

But no one really cares.
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12/13/2007  11:02 AM
This is silly. MSG is doing the right thing here, one of not many right things they have done.

The emotional state of a proffessional athlete is much more important then that of a guy at his desk in a cubicle. Its understandable if Marbury can't do his job on the court properly. And if he can't, the best place for him is at home, recovering. Its almost the same as being injured. He's in no state to play ball right now.
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12/13/2007  11:03 AM
And by the way, if a company gave me only 3 days to grieve the death of my father, I wouldnt want to be there anyway.
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12/13/2007  11:03 AM
Posted by firefly:

The emotional state of a proffessional athlete is much more important then that of a guy at his desk in a cubicle.

Why?
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12/13/2007  11:05 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2007/12/13/2007-12-13_isiah_thomas_unsure_when_stephon_marbury-2.html

Marbury missed his second straight game last night as he mourns the death of his father, Donald, who passed away 11 days ago after watching his son play at the Garden. The Knicks travel to Chicago later today for tomorrow's game against the Bulls. Thomas, who spoke with Marbury yesterday, said last night that he does not expect Marbury to make the trip or play in Saturday's home game against the Nets.

And I know what it is to have close family member's die.
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12/13/2007  11:08 AM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by firefly:

The emotional state of a proffessional athlete is much more important then that of a guy at his desk in a cubicle.

Why?

Because it affects their performance more then a guy punching numbers into a computer.
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12/13/2007  11:09 AM
Posted by firefly:

And by the way, if a company gave me only 3 days to grieve the death of my father, I wouldnt want to be there anyway.

No one is saying Marbury can't take as long as he wants to grieve. I'm talking about a reasonable time period to pay him.


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12/13/2007  11:10 AM
Posted by boykins2:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2007/12/13/2007-12-13_isiah_thomas_unsure_when_stephon_marbury-2.html

Marbury missed his second straight game last night as he mourns the death of his father, Donald, who passed away 11 days ago after watching his son play at the Garden. The Knicks travel to Chicago later today for tomorrow's game against the Bulls. Thomas, who spoke with Marbury yesterday, said last night that he does not expect Marbury to make the trip or play in Saturday's home game against the Nets.

And I know what it is to have close family member's die.


Then act like it. It's one thing not to like the Knicks as they are, its quite another to be a schmuck about the human side of it.
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12/13/2007  11:10 AM
Two things:

1) I think management was a lot more anxious to get Zach back than Steph. Which is to say I think the team could use a break from him and the distraction that he, and his relationship to Isiah is.

2) I think anyone would be sympathetic to the feelings of Steph in his bereavement compounded by the treatment he's receiving from the Garden crowd. It's pretty hard to recover amidst all the hate.

So the situation is not typical, and all thing together it's not a bad idea to give Steph and the team time to get there heads together in their respective ways.
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12/13/2007  11:13 AM
Posted by boykins2:
Posted by firefly:

And by the way, if a company gave me only 3 days to grieve the death of my father, I wouldnt want to be there anyway.

No one is saying Marbury can't take as long as he wants to grieve. I'm talking about a reasonable time period to pay him.

a. NBA players get paid pro rata. So how do you pay a player not playing on any given day?

b. His heads not i basketball, and rightly so, so even if he did show up, he shouldnt play, as it doesnt help anyone. Its equivalent to a guy showing up at the office to spend all day in the cafeteria. Whats the point? \why do players get paid when their injured? This isnt the same as a regular 9-5.
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12/13/2007  11:16 AM
Besides, marbs is a professional athlete. Not just some jerk in a cubicle.
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12/13/2007  11:18 AM
Posted by BasketballJones:

Besides, marbs is a professional athlete. Not just some jerk in a cubicle.

Cmon BJ, you know what I mean. This is not on Marbury, its on the Knicks. So forget what an unproffessional pain in the axx he is, his job is impossible if he isnt fully focused on it.
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12/13/2007  11:20 AM
I don't have a problem with Marbury taking as much time as he needs.

But guys in cubicles are people too!
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12/13/2007  11:26 AM
As far as I am concerned GreifBury can take until June of 2009 to mourn.

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12/13/2007  11:28 AM
Posted by BasketballJones:

I don't have a problem with Marbury taking as much time as he needs.

But guys in cubicles are people too!

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And in english, Im all for the guy in the cubicle, and we all know he does a far more important job then the professional athletes. Its just that their job are different. Different is good! Embrace it!
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12/13/2007  1:25 PM
Posted by firefly:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by firefly:

The emotional state of a proffessional athlete is much more important then that of a guy at his desk in a cubicle.

Why?

Because it affects their performance more then a guy punching numbers into a computer.

Lots of people in cubicles do a bit more than simply punching in numbers. That sentiment, to me, is highly offensive.

That being said, I agree that it's no big deal that Marbury is being given extra time. At most jobs, although the company policy might be 3 days, if you needed more time off in such situation, you'd be likely to get it.
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12/13/2007  2:53 PM
Why not to pay him his money and let him go altogether?
He will be able to take care about himself, his family, his charity, his business, his talk-show, his better "ho", his track, and all the rest.


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