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EnySpree
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11/16/2007  5:33 PM
........you are expendable at this point. David lee is zach without the offense.

I would hate to tack on david to a marbury dump type of trade. Im thinking since he is so beloved around the league.........what can he fetch back to the knicks to actually help the team.

I love the dude but frankly........zach is better. The knicks lack a viable starter that's ready to help now at the 3 spot. They lack a true leader at point....even craw is too streaky to count on heavily night in and out.

So regardless of what's going on with Marbs.....maybe its time for Lee to go. It would be stupid to hold on to a guy so talented if you have a guy that's better starting ahead of him.
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11/16/2007  5:37 PM
He deserves to go play for a good teasm that will use him properly in a role playing scheme
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11/16/2007  5:41 PM
David Lee has more complementary skills than rebounding. He can run the floor, finish and he is a solid passer in the paint. A lot of time he puts the ball on the floor in the paint and gets an easy bucket for Curry. Energy and hustle too.

I think he needs the time to play...but w/ 3 guys in Curry, Lee and Randolph who aren't great interior defenders its a little overwhelming.

It's hard to see where we're going, but I'd certainly move Curry before Lee.
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11/16/2007  5:47 PM
I would not be in a hurry to anoint Zach as our solution. Until we have something that works I still consider Lee as important an ingredient as anyone.

Which certainly isn't to say he's untouchable, just that Zach and Eddy are still highly questionable.
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11/16/2007  5:48 PM
Our main task is building the team.
Especially after IT and Marbs will exit
Skills are important buit not mandatory at this time.
So it is better to keep the personalities not stats.
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11/16/2007  5:48 PM
depends on who ur getting back for him in a deal... nobody's untouchable on this team, but u have to get something back that addresses a major need on this team if you're going to trade him.
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11/16/2007  5:55 PM
Lee has much more value on a good team than he does on a rebuilding one. He's like Udonis Haslem. When the Heat were winning, Haslem was a key role player. Now that they're losing, he's not good enough to be a main guy who makes a difference.

Until the Knicks clean up Isiah's mess, Lee will just be a luxury. With Zach here and with Balkman capable of similar things, Lee is expendable. I like Lee but he's going to have to go in order to trade away Marbury, Curry or Crawford.
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11/16/2007  6:00 PM
I'd rather have Lee off the bench for 16-20 minutes than Zach in our starting lineup playing 35 plus minutes every game. But I'd dump Lee in a heartbeat, well actually I would dump every single player on this team if it meant starting over without Isiah Thomas.
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11/16/2007  6:07 PM
Lee's got more upside than Haslem. More athletic. Shot 60% to get his double figure scoring. Rebounds per minute are better. Can pass the rock and run the fast break better. Starting to play in the post a little. I think he could break out if he got his 35 mpg. If he's used as a 20-25 minute bench energy player its gonna be hard for him to look like more than that. But he's flashed a better skillset.

For that reason you'd like to hang on to him, but obviously you guys are right that he'd develop faster on another team because he's blocked here.

Lee is going to yield the most value of any player on our roster so you have to be very careful on how you use him.
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11/16/2007  6:13 PM
I have been trying to say this since it is obvious that Zeke wants to play Curry and Zach for 38 minutes a night. Lee is the only person someone will take and it would have to be Crawford or quentin. You get a very good player and you get rid of Lee and a bad contract something that the knicks never do. They usually take the longer contract. The thing is a new GM may want to keep Lee and try and trade Curry or Randolph
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11/16/2007  6:15 PM
Posted by King1:

I have been trying to say this since it is obvious that Zeke wants to play Curry and Zach for 38 minutes a night. Lee is the only person someone will take and it would have to be Crawford or quentin. You get a very good player and you get rid of Lee and a bad contract something that the knicks never do. They usually take the longer contract. The thing is a new GM may want to keep Lee and try and trade Curry or Randolph


That's why you hold on to him right now. Don't let desperate Isiah Thomas make a bad deal involving David Lee when a new GM could have a completely different vision here.
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11/16/2007  6:17 PM
I agree and I dont see Dolan letting IT do anything right now.
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11/16/2007  6:18 PM
I don't think anyone can be traded until Isiah is gone- that should be Dolan's answer if Isiah asks.

Once the new GM is in place, if there is a deal that makes the team better, Lee should be an option- personally, I'd rather hold on to Lee so when EC opts out, we can wave goodbye-

Give me Zach, Lee & Chandler up front with Balkamania off the bench.
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11/16/2007  6:22 PM
Posted by King1:

I agree and I dont see Dolan letting IT do anything right now.

You would hope not. Any move he makes now would reek of desperation.

3 other head coaches were supposed to win with a lot less. Time to put up or get out.
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11/16/2007  6:49 PM
Lets also remember that last year Eddy declared he'd demand a trade if Isiah was fired. I think we should hold him to that.
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11/16/2007  6:50 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

Lets also remember that last year Eddy declared he'd demand a trade if Isiah was fired. I think we should hold him to that.

Compared to what we gave up to get him, we'd be looking at receiving 25 cents on the dollar in any trade.
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11/16/2007  6:54 PM
the day we traded for zach, we should've moved david lee. i can understand why the knicks would be hesitant as he was pretty much a huge crowd favorite so it would not be looked at in a favorable light. but considering the huge hole at SF, the consistency at SG, and a long term answer at PG, a backup (which is what lee became after the zach trade) should not have become untouchable. we should've moved him for a starting 1/2/3. i fear lee's value will go down if the season continues in this manner.

why is it so tough for isiah to understand how to put together a team of complimentary talents?
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11/16/2007  6:55 PM
overrated ?
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11/16/2007  7:24 PM
You could have got a lottery pick for Lee on draft night which after getting Randolph makes sense.
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11/16/2007  7:24 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

the day we traded for zach, we should've moved david lee. i can understand why the knicks would be hesitant as he was pretty much a huge crowd favorite so it would not be looked at in a favorable light. but considering the huge hole at SF, the consistency at SG, and a long term answer at PG, a backup (which is what lee became after the zach trade) should not have become untouchable. we should've moved him for a starting 1/2/3. i fear lee's value will go down if the season continues in this manner.

why is it so tough for isiah to understand how to put together a team of complimentary talents?

because lee is still considered by many to be Isiah's smartest acquisition. If he gave him up and we still sucked he'd have nothing good to point to. Of course sucking while diminishing Lee's value isn't exactly making lee look good either.

Unfortunately, I think the Zekebury core is so rotten right now no choice would be working out or looking smart. In a way, keeping Lee while still getting a high profile player like Zach was the safest move. He's still compiling assets for the really big deal, ie, Kobe.

Sorry David Lee but maybe......

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