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CrushAlot
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10/28/2007  1:08 AM
Rockets Expected To Release Lucas, Butler Monday
October 27, 2007 - 10:25 pm
Houston Chronicle -
With their preseason schedule complete, the Rockets returned to practice on Saturday without center Jackie Butler and guard John Lucas III who are expected to be placed on waivers on Monday.

Lucas had been considered likely to be released or traded since the Rockets acquired Mike James and drafted Aaron Brooks in June, with the Rockets working to deal him since early July. Butler's prospects, however, were much less certain.

With the expected release of Lucas and Butler, the Rockets would have 17 players on the roster, including Bob Sura who is not with the team. In addition to Sura, they will have to trim one more player by the Monday deadline to be at the roster limit of 15 players. [READ]

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10/28/2007  3:46 AM
Food for thought, we had a similar reaction when we gave up Butler and Nichols. Hopefully we wont live to regret the DNic decision either
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10/28/2007  9:27 AM
Posted by izybx:

Food for thought, we had a similar reaction when we gave up Butler and Nichols. Hopefully we wont live to regret the DNic decision either

I never made a big deal out of Butler, but I definitely think Nichols is going to be a different scenario. A guy his size who can shoot the way he does is a definite commodity, even if he never develops beyond being a shooter.

Butler was undersized and overweight, he had a big hill to climb to be good, NIchiols is already skilled, I'm afraid we are gonna be burnt when he gets picked up elsewhere.
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10/28/2007  9:29 AM
Posted by izybx:

Food for thought, we had a similar reaction when we gave up Butler and Nichols. Hopefully we wont live to regret the DNic decision either

? either--meaning we regret giving up on Butler? He sucks, out of shape, no passion for the game. We don't need him. Rather have Randolph Morris any day. No question I rather have keep Nichols and cut James but...
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10/28/2007  10:02 AM
Jackie Blue was in shape here and played well.

We'll see him in Philly I guess.
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10/28/2007  10:09 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by izybx:

Food for thought, we had a similar reaction when we gave up Butler and Nichols. Hopefully we wont live to regret the DNic decision either

I never made a big deal out of Butler, but I definitely think Nichols is going to be a different scenario. A guy his size who can shoot the way he does is a definite commodity, even if he never develops beyond being a shooter.

Butler was undersized and overweight, he had a big hill to climb to be good, NIchiols is already skilled, I'm afraid we are gonna be burnt when he gets picked up elsewhere.

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I was a big thing when Butler was let go. Almost everyone was on Zekes case. Now I hear nothing but retraction.

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10/28/2007  10:17 AM
The thing with Butler was blown out of proportion. He was never that good. However, some people on the board did not want him to go because he was clearly better than JJ1 at a fraction of the cost. It is telling that the Rockets, who need big men, would just cut the guy.
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10/28/2007  10:25 AM
Rockets have that Yao guy and are going all out to win it this year. Jackie does not have the game or experience to be in the rotation.

He lost out to Elson last year on the spurs and never got in the rotation on a championship team. Funny, jackie blue does have a ring!!!!!!

Going to a contender is not a good situation for him to get minutes with a win now team full of vets.

Jackie was a nice pick up and Larry had him playing nice on our 23 win season. He might still be better than Morris and certainly would have been better than JJ1!
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10/28/2007  2:43 PM
The point wasn't the talent of Butler which what made people angry with letting him go. Though of course many people who dislike Isiah did make a few extremes. The point, if you get past the that thick layer of Isiah hate was a good one though.

Its the fact that we kept a useless player like Jerome James who obviously does not care about basketball or the knicks. But we let go of a young prospect like Butler. Butler may or may have not turned into anything but he was worth the shot. More than James was worth the shot.

But its easy to lose sight of that point when you have a thick layer of emotional Isiah hate over it.
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10/28/2007  3:30 PM
I remember when you were a hater if you didn't belief Sweetney was gonna be as good as Elton Brand; or Ariza as good as Pippen.

But if you thought Butler could be a serviceable backup, and played better D than Curry, it means you're blinded by hate?

You guys got some funny rules you live by.
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10/28/2007  3:55 PM
First Russell Walker now this.


I hear Sweetney the next Barkley is also looking for a job.
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10/28/2007  4:12 PM
I never made a big deal out of Butler, but I definitely think Nichols is going to be a different scenario. A guy his size who can shoot the way he does is a definite commodity, even if he never develops beyond being a shooter.

I agree. It's one of the example's I always point out about 'saving the money'. You invest in a slow, overweight, lazy bum like Jerome and you have to let a guy like Nichols go, because Jerome's contract is too big to let go. I just don't ever understand how two GM's in a row keep tying the money up into such disasterous contracts, keeping us for pitching for some great talent out there, when it becomes available. It's mind boggling! You really wonder what's going to happen when suckbury is finally out of here and we're 21 million ahead. History shows the most likely scenario is, the Knicks will trade his ass, in his last year for a piece just to fill space and then give the bum a five year 50 to 80 million dollar contract. Unless there's a mega star out on the market next year, I'd let the contract run out and save the money for that opportunity when it becomes available. Am I the only one who gets this? Just sign a no name to fill that spot until we have an opportunity to get a superstar in New York. No brainer right?
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10/28/2007  6:04 PM
If Butler is as good as the amount of fuss made over him on this forum, many many teams must be lining up to sign him and give him substantial minutes. I can think of a few teams that need center help right off the top of my head:

Boston
Minnesota
Clippers
Washington
Cleveland

And More!

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My guess is that Butler lands a contract somewhere during the season and warms the bench.

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10/28/2007  7:07 PM
Posted by oohah:

If Butler is as good as the amount of fuss made over him on this forum, many many teams must be lining up to sign him and give him substantial minutes. I can think of a few teams that need center help right off the top of my head:

Boston
Minnesota
Clippers
Washington
Cleveland

And More!

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My guess is that Butler lands a contract somewhere during the season and warms the bench.

oohah

I would imagine that most teams are set on they're 15 by now. The pickings have got to be very slim and a bad time to lose your job.
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10/28/2007  8:06 PM
I like Butler better than Morris. I'd sign him as I think he can be an effective backup center for us (just as he was in the past).
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10/28/2007  8:16 PM
I would prefer Butler over James and would of definitely liked to have kept DNic.
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10/28/2007  8:46 PM
Posted by BigC:

I hear Sweetney the next Barkley is also looking for a job.

Doing what? Being a planet?
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10/28/2007  8:48 PM
speaking of sweetney - does anybody want to buy an authentic knicks sweetney jersey? HARDLY worn.

last knicks jersey i bought, and probably will buy...unless, well, you know who joins the team...
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10/28/2007  10:44 PM
Posted by Michael6835:

I would prefer Butler over James and would of definitely liked to have kept DNic.


I would prefer nobody over james
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10/29/2007  12:31 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

speaking of sweetney - does anybody want to buy an authentic knicks sweetney jersey? HARDLY worn.

last knicks jersey i bought, and probably will buy...unless, well, you know who joins the team...

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