With all the negativity from all directions ( most recently the Rutgers coach) it is unlikely that Zeke will beon to holding the reigns of this franchise after November. I believe the search for his replacement is actually going on right now. The way our team is currently constructed may not be a successful as I once thought therefore I propose the question...If you were a general manager that recieved the Knicks after a 5-10 start (I don't think we will actually start with that bad a record) what would you have to do to save their season?

First I would trade Jamal and Curry to the Nuggets for Nene, Najera, Diawara, and Bobby Jones

New York Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -11.4 ppg, +3.9 rpg, and -1.8 apg.
Incoming Players
Bobby Jones
6-7 SF from Washington
2.5 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.4 apg in 7.7 minutes
Yakhouba Diawara
6-7 SF from Pepperdine
4.4 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.4 minutes
Eduardo Najera
6-8 SF from Oklahoma
6.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.1 minutes
Nene Hilario
6-11 PF from Brazil (Foreign)
12.2 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 1.2 apg in 26.8 minutes
Outgoing Players
Jamal Crawford
6-5 SG from Michigan
17.6 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 4.4 apg in 37.3 minutes
Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
19.5 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 0.8 apg in 35.2 minutes
Denver Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +11.4 ppg, -3.9 rpg, and +1.8 apg.
Incoming Players
Jamal Crawford
6-5 SG from Michigan
17.6 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 4.4 apg in 37.3 minutes
Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
19.5 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 0.8 apg in 35.2 minutes
Outgoing Players
Bobby Jones
6-7 SF from Washington
2.5 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.4 apg in 7.7 minutes
Yakhouba Diawara
6-7 SF from Pepperdine
4.4 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.4 minutes
Eduardo Najera
6-8 SF from Oklahoma
6.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.1 minutes
Nene Hilario
6-11 PF from Brazil (Foreign)
12.2 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 1.2 apg in 26.8 minutes

We will more than likely get a first rounder out of that trade

Our line-up would now look like this

Bobby Jones and Jerome James get waived immediately after trade

Marbury, Nate,
Q. Rich, Jones, Collins, Diawara (this boy is good)
Jeffries, Balkman, Chandler
Randolph, Lee, Najera, Rose
Nene, Morris

Due to the heavy negative media barrages from to the Anucha trial and crazy offseason actions I relieve Marbury of his duties (waived). This is strictly a P.R. move.

I then I trade Balkman (don't worry you will not die if Balkman is traded) for Kyle Lowry

New York Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +0.7 ppg, -1.2 rpg, and +2.5 apg.
Incoming Players
Kyle Lowry
6-0 PG from Villanova
5.6 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 3.2 apg in 17.4 minutes
Outgoing Players
Renaldo Balkman
6-7 SF from South Carolina
4.9 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.7 apg in 15.7 minutes
Memphis Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -0.7 ppg, +1.2 rpg, and -2.5 apg.
Incoming Players
Renaldo Balkman
6-7 SF from South Carolina
4.9 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.7 apg in 15.7 minutes
Outgoing Players
Kyle Lowry
6-0 PG from Villanova
5.6 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 3.2 apg in 17.4 minutes

The line-up now looks like this

Lowry, Nate
Collins, Jones, Diawara
Q. Rich, Najera, Jeffries, Chandler
Randolph, Lee,Rose
Nene, Morris


BOLD : Main rotation

We ride out with that line-up and use our pick and Denver's pick to upgrade the squad in the future. No need for Super billionaire allstars. This is how I would begin fixing the Knicks.

Denver would never take Crawford & Curry. Iverson & Crawford would never fit. Im also sure they would prefer more defensive players to go around Iverson & Melo. They might be interested in just Curry though to give them a inside offensive role player. But they would want him cheap.

There are only about 2 teams I could see Curry & Crawford being moved to, Seattle & Memphis. I would want Miller though and I doubt they would give Miller up.

Not bad but why trade balk for kyle? We got collins and nate...

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Not bad but why trade balk for kyle? We got collins and nate...

Kyle Lowry is a better player than both. Just have to watch out for his injuries

best way to save the knicks is for Cablevision to sell the team to someone w/a clue.

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Denver would never take Crawford & Curry. Iverson & Crawford would never fit. Im also sure they would prefer more defensive players to go around Iverson & Melo. They might be interested in just Curry though to give them a inside offensive role player. But they would want him cheap.

There are only about 2 teams I could see Curry & Crawford being moved to, Seattle & Memphis. I would want Miller though and I doubt they would give Miller up.

I'm not hearing that because Crawford can easily take over that J.R. Smith role. Crawford is a huge upgrade over J.R. Smith

J.R Smith is a better spot up shooter than Crawford which is the role he plays there in Denver. Crawford also makes WAY more for a longer period of time than J.R Smith. Larry Hughes is better then Crawford and Larry Hughes had to be traded from Philly because he and Iverson didn't fit well together. Balance wise it would be a bad trade for Denver.

Iverson needs/wants the ball in his hands, Melo needs/wants the ball in his hands, Crawford needs the ball in his hands, Curry needs the ball in his hands. We all now that Iverson & Melo are going to get theres. So where does that leave Crawford & Curry who don't really do much else without the ball in there hands. So in the end they would be paying Crawford 10mil to fill a role that he isn't even that good at. There are way cheaper options out there than Crawford which would make more sense anyway for Denver anyway.

Curry at least would give them a role player that could give them a different look in case they would need to adapt to a half court slowler pace vs a team that was weak defending that area. Which is why they would give Curry some thought.

Are you kidding me? Did you not watch the NBA Playoffs? Did you not see him get yanked because of his bad shot selection and turnovers? Larry Hughes and Crawford are two different players

I would have to agree that Crawford is better than J.R. Smith and IMO as good if not better than Hughes.

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Denver would never take Crawford & Curry. Iverson & Crawford would never fit. Im also sure they would prefer more defensive players to go around Iverson & Melo. They might be interested in just Curry though to give them a inside offensive role player. But they would want him cheap.

There are only about 2 teams I could see Curry & Crawford being moved to, Seattle & Memphis. I would want Miller though and I doubt they would give Miller up.

I'm not hearing that because Crawford can easily take over that J.R. Smith role. Crawford is a huge upgrade over J.R. Smith

J.R Smith is a better spot up shooter than Crawford which is the role he plays there in Denver. Crawford also makes WAY more for a longer period of time than J.R Smith. Larry Hughes is better then Crawford and Larry Hughes had to be traded from Philly because he and Iverson didn't fit well together. Balance wise it would be a bad trade for Denver.

Iverson needs/wants the ball in his hands, Melo needs/wants the ball in his hands, Crawford needs the ball in his hands, Curry needs the ball in his hands. We all now that Iverson & Melo are going to get theres. So where does that leave Crawford & Curry who don't really do much else without the ball in there hands. So in the end they would be paying Crawford 10mil to fill a role that he isn't even that good at. There are way cheaper options out there than Crawford which would make more sense anyway for Denver anyway.

Curry at least would give them a role player that could give them a different look in case they would need to adapt to a half court slowler pace vs a team that was weak defending that area. Which is why they would give Curry some thought.

Are you kidding me? Did you not watch the NBA Playoffs? Did you not see him get yanked because of his bad shot selection and turnovers? Larry Hughes and Crawford are two different players

I would have to agree that Crawford is better than J.R. Smith and IMO as good if not better than Hughes.

Is he 30+million dollars better than J.R Smith? And the role that Crawford would play for Denver, Crawford doesn't fit that role. Denver needs a spot up 2 guard one that can catch and shoot since Iverson & Melo will dominate the ball. They also need someone that can do other little things like play defense, rebound, get stills, do little things. Crawford doesn't fit that role either. Crawford needs the ball in his hand in order to produce.

As for Hughes. The problem is he can't stay healthy. Defensivly Hughes is light yrs better than Crawford. Larry Hughes had a season in which he averaged 22pts 6rebs, 5assist, 3stls per game on 43% shooting from the field in 61games. I could only dream that Crawford could post those type of #s. Crawford has never posted numbers like that.

Career wise Hughes averages more pts, rebs, assist, stls, ft attempts, shooting better fg% than Crawford. Crawford only beats him out on 3pt %, 3s, and ft%. That doesn't take into account the fact that Hughes man to man defense is on a completly different level than Crawford.

But back to the orginal point. Its not about who is better who has more talent. Its about fit & balance. Iverson & Crawford do not fit, Iverson & Crawford do not have balance. Iverson went to the finals with Eric Snow & Aron Mckie. Players you would not attach the word talent with. Because there specific skills complimented Iverson extremely well. Snow ran the offense, Mckie was a utility man who could do a little bit of everything, Iverson was Iverson, and scored a ton of points shooting 30shots a night. if Snow & Mckie were shoot happy players then they would have had to be traded because they would have not fit with Iverson. There roles fit there skills, play defense, do the little things. Snow ran the offense, Iverson was the playmakers, Mckie guarded the bigger 2guards when Snow & Iverson's lack of size showed. Is Hughes not better talent then them? But yet Hughes had to be traded in favor of Snow & Mckie, because he didn't fit.

How to save the Knicks...Play defense and move the ball every night they play....This will make them a 45 win team....

And just how realistic is that lover?

I'll watch the movie Eddie and do exactly what the owner of the Knicks wanted to do because we dont deserve to be in this city.

If the team starts out the month of November with a winning record, then there is no reason to make changes. If the team starts out with the same old song and dance from last season,then that is another story.

The tear down and rebuild mold just can't work here. Honestly we might have poor management, but let's not discredit the players we have here. You people kill me with your trade scenarios. You look at other teams and look to see which one of our players would be a good fit in their system. You then proceed to justify why they would excel in that system for that team. These are often playoff bound teams, so in fact your saying these guys are good enough to be on playoff bound team with championchip aspirations. So instead of keeping the nucleus together and adding a player or two, you would rather tear it down, have meaningless, boring games with the hopes that it lands you a lottery pick. Then with some luck, a few years later you are right back where you started. Somewhere close to the 8th seed and about 1 player away from being real good. Yeah your plan is GREAT. Let's list the common players I typically read, that most hate.

1. Isaih Thomas - GM wise he is bad, Coach wise, he is average. Either way he will proably be gone before the season ends. Personally, I don't think he should be fired based on the fall out of the trial. To me, Dolan chose his commander when he decided that he was going to fire Anucha and go to trial with Thomas. Also when he gave him the extention.

2. Stephon Marbury - His contract will be expiring after next season, so what is the real problem ? At most 2 more years of steph bashing. and "better ho" quotes.

3. Eddy Curry - Everyone detests his ability and says he is one dimensional. My guess is either Curry gets traded in a package deal for a potential superstar or NY keeps him and he improves his game. Either way, like it or not, Curry has some value. It might not be of the Franchise level (that I want him to be) but he has value. The one dimension that he excels at is a very good one to have.

4. Jerome James - Probably will be bought out.
5. Malik Rose- Probably will be traded as part of some deal to bring in someone.
6. Jared Jeffries - if he can at least return to the player that he was in Washington, then he will at least earn his roster spot ( not his MLE)
7. Jamal Crawford - People hate him, but the guy can ball and is a very important piece.
8. NAte - IF he continues down the path he is going, he will probably earn him self Stephs starting spot.
9. Zach Randolph - Wait and see, my prediction is he probably makes the all-star team this year if the knicks can have a decent record.

That is all i can think of with regards to the names I have seen thrown around the board with negativity. So again explain to me how tearing it down and rebuilding from scratch works again

So then, who will be the coach ? who will be the gM ? If Zeke is gone, what does the new GM do ? I just don't see tearing it down as a viable solution. Call me a lover, but I don't think the team is that bad. I actually think the team will suprise many around the league. I don't get how teams like Orlando and Toronto have such "bright" futures when we are destined for failure. I just don't see it. I look on paper and I see Orlando snuck into the playoffs. I look and Toronto has a good year last year, but I don't see them sneaking up on teams as they did last year.


For those that are fed up with the team, what would be your take if the team made it into the playoffs with an above 500 record and managed to have a respectable series. Are we close, or do you still bust it up ?