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EnySpree
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10/27/2007  11:28 AM
Knicks have talent in the backcourt but the knicks lack any real explosion especially at the 3.

Ricky davis would have been perfect. He is someone that can drive and attack the basket from the 3 spot. He can hit the three and play a little defense......I mention him cuz he was available.

Randolph is incredible at the 4. Eventually the offense will run through him completely.

Curry is a big fag. He's strong but he's not a man inside. He's just not a real man. He doesn't work for position. He still throws forearms too high where official are forced to make the offensive foul call. He's just a *****. He is too strong and quick to be playing like such a pansy. Whoever said curry should be fed on the move first is correct. Curry does not control his space so **** him already.

Ok so now about the athletisism at the three......not even that you know.....its just skill. Someone who can drive and make something happen outside of the guards. jared jefferies could be that guy and so could balkman but they are both hurt right now. Chandler is still learning the nba so we can't flame him yet, it wouldn't be fair.

Knicks are in trouble.....they could win more this year but they will stuggle a lot cuz of how weak the 3 spot is right now.

How can we fix this?
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10/27/2007  11:33 AM
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EnySpree
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10/27/2007  11:39 AM
Im looking around the league and 2 guys right off the bat that I feel could help the knicks right now is wilkins from seattle and jarvis hayes who I believe is on detroit. They are having great pre-seasons.

Is it possible to pick up one of these guys? Knicks need another guy that can slash and shoot like these guys. They are cheap for the talent they have.
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10/27/2007  11:54 AM
So we went more athletic and get a bunch of pansys...
May be IT should better look for some real man... But wait... Isiah should be the only MAN on the team.
Even if he will get somebody - this will be another retard with no brain and passion.

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10/27/2007  12:28 PM
Ron Artest!
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10/27/2007  12:29 PM
Artest, while not as athletic is still very effective on both sides of the court.
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10/27/2007  12:56 PM
I f we didn't go by how much a guy makes, chandler should be the one who plays the 3 position.

Oppossing teams would lay-off him thinking he can't slash and shoot because he a rookie when Z-BO and others take the lead scoring.

I can see chandler killing them softly with a lineup of
NATE
Q RICH
CHANDLER
LEE
Z-BO
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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10/27/2007  1:06 PM
Posted by Michael6835:

Ron Artest!

Yep... You get it..
I cannot believe he is not with he Knicks yet. It's all f...ng Anucha fault.

[Edited by - arkrud on 10-27-2007 1:06 PM]
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10/27/2007  1:07 PM
Last time we begged for a athletic 3 we got Tim Thomas
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10/27/2007  1:32 PM
Yes, Ron Artest is what we need to still the waters in these turbulent times.

Leadership is underrated...
EnySpree
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10/27/2007  2:32 PM
Its about not giving a ****. All the good teams that win championships just don't give a flying ****, you know what im saying.

David lee, balkman, nate, zach......these guys just play man and they don't care who is out there with them. Knicks can't say that about most of the rest of the guys.

Isiah talks about dogs.....he should have tried to get one instead of waiving jordan and nichols.

Looking at them play the nets........and frazier said it last night......the knicks are a step slow on every play.

On defense they look ok in spurts then they get caught with their heads spinning.

On offense the passing has been awesome but the knicks lack a guy that's gonna have the balls to see the opening and make the defense pay. Zach and nate tried their best and had to chuck a little at times cuz it seems like guys are just trying too hard to be un selfish.

I think if the knicks had just one more guy that can score as a slasher at the three......josh childress?

Even nichols at the 3. He's a rookie but he didn't look scared to shoot. Why did isiah just waive him like that?

Is their a trade on the horizon where isiah would need to dump extra guys so jordan and nichols had to go?

Im still excited about my knicks but I think its pretty clear the knicks need just one more element to their attack to be legit.

Again jared was looking like he could do it but he hurt his ****ing leg. Q is a Big Mama. Knicks aren't screwed but they still need another touch up. Hopefully isiah can survive long enough to keep this group together.
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10/27/2007  5:53 PM
A pass first PG would really help the KNicks out a lot. I know people are down on Crawford but he is very capable of scoring. Just have to wait him out a bit, you have to realize he is returning from injury and that it may have a Psycholgical play on him. Give him some time. As for Marbury if he says he going to score 10 points a game then it won't be long before Crawford gets his shots in and make it the big three.
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10/27/2007  7:44 PM
Posted by Vmart:

A pass first PG would really help the KNicks out a lot. I know people are down on Crawford but he is very capable of scoring. Just have to wait him out a bit, you have to realize he is returning from injury and that it may have a Psycholgical play on him. Give him some time. As for Marbury if he says he going to score 10 points a game then it won't be long before Crawford gets his shots in and make it the big three.

Big christmas tree?
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10/27/2007  7:50 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Knicks have talent in the backcourt but the knicks lack any real explosion especially at the 3.

Yeah, it means we have no true superstar.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/27/2007  7:51 PM
Posted by Michael6835:

Artest, while not as athletic is still very effective on both sides of the court.

Until he gets arrested again. This is not a refugee camp.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/27/2007  7:53 PM
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by Michael6835:

Ron Artest!

Yep... You get it..
I cannot believe he is not with he Knicks yet. It's all f...ng Anucha fault.

[Edited by - arkrud on 10-27-2007 1:06 PM]

Good for Anucha for exposing the weaknesses of this orgainzation. Dolan let Isiah screw up and then tried to back him on that. Not the way to do things.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/27/2007  7:54 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

Yes, Ron Artest is what we need to still the waters in these turbulent times.

That's the worst person to do it.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/27/2007  8:11 PM
Lee, Chan, Balk, Nate and even Jones and Mardy gives us a good amount of athleticism. We're more of a ground n pound team anyway, with Zach and Curry. You can't really guage accurately off of a few preseason games. Even Zach and Curry looking bad together at this point, isn't that alarming, given the type of players they are.

We don't have a really cerebral team and that has meant slow recognition of what needs to be done to fix poor play. I still think we'll get there, but we don't have a Kidd or Nash to set everything up so we look lost at times, cuz we are! Steph and Jamal aren't BB geniuses, so we will go thru this kind of thing with them. The thing is that if the shots are fallin, all of this doesn't matter. Right now they're not hitting at their normal %, so things always look bad cuz they don't adjust and figure out another way to get it done. ie passing the ball inside more. I'm not happy about that, but these are the realities for now.

The Jazz aren't overly athletic. AK47 and maybe Deron, but overall they're not flying all over the place. It's not really necessary for playing winning ball. It's nice to have tho and I think we're OK in that area.

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10/27/2007  11:00 PM
Athletism is important but not the major thing for team to be successful.
Good coaching.
Players who can complement each other and execute the game plan.
Hard work and passion to win.
Character.
Understanding of the game and basic skills on passing, shooting, defense, rebounding, box-out, etc.

Then comes athletism... like a nice compliment.
Are Spurs players athletic anyway?
But if you are talking about circus then athletism is major thing.


[Edited by - arkrud on 10-27-2007 11:00 PM]
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EnySpree
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10/27/2007  11:29 PM
Circus?

Im talking about a slasher/scorer type. Ricky Davis isn't superstar calibur but he would provide a nice compliment to what the knicks are trying to do.

Knicks need skill really. Superstar? not necissarily. Even a dude like antoine walker would help. Just a guy that can score and make something happen.

That forcing it inside and relying on craw and marbs aint gonna cut it. The knicks really need a healthy q or balkman with a jumper, or a less retarded jared........not gonna happen.....a small move should be made........

What about shawne williams of indiana?
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