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Is Jamal Impressing Anyone As The Starting 2 Guard?
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TrueBlue
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10/23/2007  11:48 AM
He came out early and put everyone on notice that he's not looking to come off the bench and he's been woeful overall offensively.

He's shooting 19-68fg which equals 26% and his 3pt shooting 7-22fg=31% only exposes how bad his inside the arc shooting is 12-46fg=26%. Can we survive having someone such as him logging so many minutes at the two as a starter shooting like this? The only thing I can say good about his game thus far, his assist numbers a pretty consistent.

I rather move Chandler to the two even with his inexperience because at least we'd be better defensively as a starting unit and maybe Crawful can find a groove being a spark off the bench.


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 10-26-2007 9:22 PM]
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10/23/2007  12:26 PM
I was thinking the same exact thing. I like Jamal, but he's not cutting it, yet none of the beat writers mentioning it. He's the starting 2 guard for the New York Knicks and has looked erratic at best.
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10/23/2007  12:32 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

He came out early and put everyone on notice that he's not looking to come off the bench and he's been woeful overall offensively.

He's shooting 15-49fg which equals 30% and his 3pt shooting 6-14fg=42% only exposes how bad his inside the arc shooting is 9-35fg=26%. Can we survive having someone such as him logging so many minutes at the two as a starter shooting like this? The only thing I can say good about his game thus far, his assist numbers a pretty consistent.

I rather move Chandler to the two even with his inexperience because at least we'd be better defensively as a starting unit and maybe Crawful can find a groove being a spark off the bench.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 10-23-2007 10:51 AM]

Those are Craw's shooting percentages this preseason? Gee- he's improved.

And did Craw make his "I'm a starter statement" like Marbs "I'm the best PG".

when will these athletes learn- talk is cheap.

Can we have Dnic start?

Crawford is a tantalizing talent- but he lacks consistency and consequently, should not be starting.

I wonder if Isiah is looking to trade him? On another team, in the right role, he would be a great asset and worth his contract.
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10/23/2007  12:36 PM
I was never impressed by Craw. He's a combo guard off the bench. He'd be perfect in the energetic second unit along with Nate, Lee, Balk etc. That way, he can play with a more uptempo unit at a more frenetic pace.
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10/23/2007  12:41 PM
the past 2 televised games has jamal playing the point more and more.
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10/23/2007  1:30 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

the past 2 televised games has jamal playing the point more and more.

But is that because GETINTHETRUCKBURY has low IQ or because I SAY UGH has recognized at the same time how HORRADICALLY Crawful's shooting has been?
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10/23/2007  6:01 PM
to answere the question.....of course not.
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10/23/2007  8:30 PM
This was from HOOPSWORLD last week. Thought it brought up some valid points. Also, in 2005-2006 Crawford was getting to the basket more often, but last season he started settling for jumpers again = "Last season, he averaged 5.5 three-point attempts versus only 4.6 free-throws attempts per game."


http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=5721


No More Free Passes For Crawford

By: Tommy Beer Last Updated: 10/19/07


Jamal Crawford came to camp with confidence oozing out of him. At Media Day, he took offense to being asked if he would be a starter and then proceeded to make a number of bold statements and confident declarations.
"I don't know why I wouldn't be (the starter)," Crawford told the New York Post. "I've done everything that's been asked. I went back and forth, starting, coming off the bench.

"It's time to go to a new level of my career. Starting shouldn't even be a question," Crawford continued. "Did Kobe Bryant get traded here? No disrespect to my teammates, but is Dwyane Wade coming? I don't see anybody else."

Now the question is whether Jamal can walk the walk.

Since touching down in New York, Crawford has been a favorite among Knicks fans as well as the press corps. This is not an easy feat to accomplish, but it seems to come naturally to Jamal. He is intelligent and engaging when speaking with the media and is one of the few players who frequently and casually chat with reporters in the locker room before games. And his dynamic and flashy style of play has endeared himself to the Garden faithful, despite the flaws in his game and his hefty contract. All things considered, the guy is very easy to root for.

And the almost 20 pounds of muscle he has packed on this summer shows he has clearly dedicated himself and his commitment seems genuine.

However, facts are facts and some are harder to ignore than others. The 2007-08 season will be Crawford's 8th in the league and his career has been littered with losses. Maybe he should have incorporated this lifting program years ago. The only thing Crawford has proven over the past seven years is that he is fantastically inconsistent. I use the adjective fantastic because it has been amazing at times (i.e. multiple 50 point performances). However, these outbursts, as well as his defense and court vision, have been sporadic at best.

Jamal is now 27 years old, an age many professional athletes reach their athletic prime. In the past, Crawford's shortcomings seem to have been excused and glossed over. While other Knickerbockers, such as Stephon Marbury, Allan Houston, and Eddy Curry have all taken substantial heat from the fans and the media, Crawford has remained relatively untouched. Maybe the time has come increase the expectation level? He is not a kid anymore.

Consider this, in Jamal's seven NBA seasons, his teams have averaged an astoundingly low 25 wins per year. Those are seven 82-game seasons and Jamal's teams, admittedly with poor supporting casts, have averaged 25 wins! (In fact, last season's 33-win debacle actually tied his high-water mark for a single season). Crawford has played 452 career regular season games and has yet to even sniff the playoffs. Maybe this is the reason for Crawford's summertime makeover. Could it be that he is fed up with all the losing? He is certainly capable and has proven that playing on the big stage in New York does not rattle him.

Everyone talks a good game in early October. Can he back it up with a commitment to defense, fewer forced jumpers and a willingness to share the ball when the season tips off next month? It is time for him to show the league that he's a legit starting two-guard on both ends of the floor - night in, night out. If he doesn't make it happen this year, he'll be offending Knick fans at next year's Media Day if he thinks he will again be the team's starting two-guard.
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10/23/2007  8:50 PM
Consider this, in Jamal's seven NBA seasons, his teams have averaged an astoundingly low 25 wins per year. Those are seven 82-game seasons and Jamal's teams, admittedly with poor supporting casts, have averaged 25 wins!
Now that is amazing! I knew he and his teams were bad but I didn't know it was THAT bad. I wonder if he has the worst winning percentage in NBA history of any player with at least seven years experience
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10/23/2007  10:28 PM
I lost him completely when Pierce grabbed his chin last game in the Garden and he was looking terrified and did nothing. He is a chicken not a man.
NBA is the league for man not chickens.

[Edited by - arkrud on 10-23-2007 10:28 PM]
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10/23/2007  11:21 PM
Posted by arkrud:

I lost him completely when Pierce grabbed his chin last game in the Garden and he was looking terrified and did nothing. He is a chicken not a man.
NBA is the league for man not chickens.

[Edited by - arkrud on 10-23-2007 10:28 PM]

Thats BS, first of all you guys kill the Knicks for fighting and then you kill them for turning the other cheek. They can't win with some of you guys no matter what they do. Crawford did the right thing. He is a valuable member to the current team and the last thing the Knicks needed is to start the season without Crawford.

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10/23/2007  11:30 PM
He will never cut it, the guy is a terrible shooter. Nothing will change from 10 years ago to now with him. 40% is an awful shooter and thats what he is no ifs and or buts.
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10/23/2007  11:41 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by arkrud:

I lost him completely when Pierce grabbed his chin last game in the Garden and he was looking terrified and did nothing. He is a chicken not a man.
NBA is the league for man not chickens.

[Edited by - arkrud on 10-23-2007 10:28 PM]

Thats BS, first of all you guys kill the Knicks for fighting and then you kill them for turning the other cheek. They can't win with some of you guys no matter what they do. Crawford did the right thing. He is a valuable member to the current team and the last thing the Knicks needed is to start the season without Crawford.

his lack of response to being grabbed like that isn't sitting well with me-

where is his will to win?

What do you think Sprewell would have done in that situation? Granted, after saying he needed to feed his family, he wouldn't backed down and would have put pierce in his place.

I like to think about things like this- if you had one guy to walk down a dark alley with, is crawford the guy you would want with you?

Basketball is a competitive sport- its war. strongest personalitys win. The physical stuff sure helps.
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10/23/2007  11:52 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by arkrud:

I lost him completely when Pierce grabbed his chin last game in the Garden and he was looking terrified and did nothing. He is a chicken not a man.
NBA is the league for man not chickens.

[Edited by - arkrud on 10-23-2007 10:28 PM]

Thats BS, first of all you guys kill the Knicks for fighting and then you kill them for turning the other cheek. They can't win with some of you guys no matter what they do. Crawford did the right thing. He is a valuable member to the current team and the last thing the Knicks needed is to start the season without Crawford.

his lack of response to being grabbed like that isn't sitting well with me-

where is his will to win?

What do you think Sprewell would have done in that situation? Granted, after saying he needed to feed his family, he wouldn't backed down and would have put pierce in his place.

I like to think about things like this- if you had one guy to walk down a dark alley with, is crawford the guy you would want with you?

Basketball is a competitive sport- its war. strongest personalitys win. The physical stuff sure helps.

Where is his will to win, they won didn't they. Sprewell wouldn't have done jack.

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10/24/2007  6:40 AM
Posted by Vmart:

Where is his will to win, they won didn't they. Sprewell wouldn't have done jack.

vmart- see above for crawford's nba career winning percentage and see if that fits with crawfords will to win- or complete lack there of.

give me derek fisher over crawford. crawford is a hot dog and1 player. maybe one year he will put it together. put its very hard to argue he will based on his nba career.

I used to think he had had the misfortune of being stuck on bad teams. now, i'm not so sure he isn't part of the reason his teams are bad.
and not to get off topic, but there is now way sprewell wouldn't have tried to break pierces arm on that play. we're talking about someone who tried to kill his coach with his bare hands, and when that didn't work, came back with a 2x4.
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10/24/2007  10:46 AM
What was wrong with Jamal's reaction? If I saw him go at Ray for such a minor foul in a pre-season game I would have punched him myself. Nothing wrong with his reaction
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10/24/2007  10:47 AM
Posted by arkrud:

I lost him completely when Pierce grabbed his chin last game in the Garden and he was looking terrified and did nothing. He is a chicken not a man.
NBA is the league for man not chickens.

[Edited by - arkrud on 10-23-2007 10:28 PM]

LOL. That\'s what I thought. Gosh he may need to go down to the YMCA 13-14 year old league to kick someone\'s arse to redeem himself here.
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10/24/2007  10:50 AM
Posted by Bippity10:

What was wrong with Jamal's reaction? If I saw him go at Ray for such a minor foul in a pre-season game I would have punched him myself. Nothing wrong with his reaction

i think it was the pee stain in his shorts.
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10/24/2007  4:55 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by Vmart:

Where is his will to win, they won didn't they. Sprewell wouldn't have done jack.

vmart- see above for crawford's nba career winning percentage and see if that fits with crawfords will to win- or complete lack there of.

give me derek fisher over crawford. crawford is a hot dog and1 player. maybe one year he will put it together. put its very hard to argue he will based on his nba career.

I used to think he had had the misfortune of being stuck on bad teams. now, i'm not so sure he isn't part of the reason his teams are bad.
and not to get off topic, but there is now way sprewell wouldn't have tried to break pierces arm on that play. we're talking about someone who tried to kill his coach with his bare hands, and when that didn't work, came back with a 2x4.

More crap being spewed Jamal was with the Bulls who had their own rebuilding years he was part of those rebuilding years there, Bulls made a lot of their own bone headed mistakes like trading Elton Brand and getting and making bad draft decisions. You want to look at Jamal's past you need not look furture to see that the Knicks actually played .500 basketball when Jamal was starting last year.

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10/24/2007  5:15 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

What was wrong with Jamal's reaction? If I saw him go at Ray for such a minor foul in a pre-season game I would have punched him myself. Nothing wrong with his reaction

bip- we're talking about after the play when piere came in to 'defend' ray allen- he grabbed crawford around the neck like you'd grab a chicken. and crawford stared with a deer in the head lights look.

I think some of us would have liked a more manly response- not a fight, but certainly he should have forcefully removed pierces arm from his throat.
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