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Stern is Licking His Chops (from the pure speculation department)
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mythfaze
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10/2/2007  3:56 PM
With a guilty verdict coming down in the MSG Legal Disaster, all of a sudden he's got an excuse to intervene. The Knicks are technically a sovereign organization, so Stern couldn't do much but stand by and watch them self-destruct. Though he met with James Dolan several years ago to encourage competence, that's about all the Commish could do.

Now, the whole ballgame has changed. As has been previously reported, Stern probably has the option of disciplining Dolan, Isiah Thomas, or even the Knicks in general. All along, he's been waiting for the franchise to bottom out so it can be reborn. This just might be that moment, where some prudently applied pressure and string-pulling can start setting some things right within this organization. Sound like a conspiracy? If it's shrewd and in the league's best interest, I wouldn't put it past Stern.

You really can't overstate how much the Knicks means to the NBA. It's easy to forget, since their twenty-first century has been such a bush league embarrassment. But after the Lakers and Celtics, there's the Knicks ... and that's pretty much NBA history. The Celtics managed to instantly restore their glory by having Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen fall into their lap. It won't be that easy for the Knicks, but best believe that Stern's already plotting their rehabilitation.



I hope Stern doesn't do anything. What is the point if he does? It won't cause any major changes over here - Zeke's job is safe no matter what. If he's suspended it will just hurt the team at the start of the season. Not to mention give people another excuse for this year if the team doesn't perform well.

"We can't take this year into account, IT was gone in the beginning. I'm so excited for the '08-'09 season though, when we won't have any major distractions or suspensions at the beginning of the year. We should be great then. If only Stern hadn't stolen the past season from us."

[Edited by - mythfaze on 10-02-2007 3:57 PM]
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10/2/2007  3:57 PM
Stern will not do a thing to Isiah nor Dolan
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10/2/2007  4:00 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Stern will not do a thing to Isiah nor Dolan

Why are you acting like that's a big deal?

I think the court system has done enough regarding this matter, don't you?
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10/2/2007  4:06 PM
stern should absolutely and positively hold isiah and especially dolan accountable. this is the nba and they represent the league with their conduct. why couldnt this have been dogfighting peta probably would have already forced the resignation of zeke and the impeding sale of the team from dolan.

fact of the matter is dolan and zeke could blown up on the ridiculous ship they are running and stern can (and without a doubt should F JIM DOLAN THAT FAT COWARD)
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10/2/2007  4:11 PM
Posted by mythfaze:

Though he met with James Dolan several years ago to encourage competence, that's about all the Commish could do

"encourage competence" huh?!?!? that's definitely one of the most pathetic things i've ever heard.
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10/2/2007  4:12 PM
If it were a player, Stern would punish him. But because it's a Team President and most importantly, an owner involved, he won't do anything.

Stern has said on more than one occasion, that he works for the owners. His hands are tied.
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10/2/2007  4:13 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Stern will not do a thing to Isiah nor Dolan

Why are you acting like that's a big deal?

I think the court system has done enough regarding this matter, don't you?

I think this jury went way overboard and the court system will correct them via appeals. I would be shocked if ABS ends up with more than 25% of what this jury gave her after years of appeals. Dolan has no problem keeping this in appeals for a very long time.
I have little doubt abs attorneys are trying to settle this right now for much less money knowing that if they dont it will be locked in appeals for years with a major chance of reduction.
Thats what happened in a law suit I was involved in.
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10/2/2007  4:15 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Stern will not do a thing to Isiah nor Dolan

Why are you acting like that's a big deal?

I think the court system has done enough regarding this matter, don't you?

I think this jury went way overboard and the court system will correct them via appeals. I would be shocked if ABS ends up with more than 25% of what this jury gave her after years of appeals. Dolan has no problem keeping this in appeals for a very long time.
I have little doubt abs attorneys are trying to settle this right now for much less money knowing that if they dont it will be locked in appeals for years with a major chance of reduction.
Thats what happened in a law suit I was involved in.

Ummm, ok. So what?

They're still guilty of sexual harassment and that's all that matters. Aside from ASB and her lawyers, who the hell cares about the dollar amount?

Let's say they drop it to 25% or about $3M. Does that really make it better?

You really need to get over it.
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10/2/2007  4:30 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Stern will not do a thing to Isiah nor Dolan

Why are you acting like that's a big deal?

I think the court system has done enough regarding this matter, don't you?

I think this jury went way overboard and the court system will correct them via appeals. I would be shocked if ABS ends up with more than 25% of what this jury gave her after years of appeals. Dolan has no problem keeping this in appeals for a very long time.
I have little doubt abs attorneys are trying to settle this right now for much less money knowing that if they dont it will be locked in appeals for years with a major chance of reduction.
Thats what happened in a law suit I was involved in.

Ummm, ok. So what?

They're still guilty of sexual harassment and that's all that matters. Aside from ASB and her lawyers, who the hell cares about the dollar amount?

Let's say they drop it to 25% or about $3M. Does that really make it better?

You really need to get over it.

I am of the opinion that if they reduce it to 3M our dignity will be restored and the players will be so inspired that it will propel us to the land of the shiny stuff. YOu would realize this if you were closer to the light.
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10/2/2007  5:00 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Stern will not do a thing to Isiah nor Dolan

Why are you acting like that's a big deal?

I think the court system has done enough regarding this matter, don't you?

I think this jury went way overboard and the court system will correct them via appeals. I would be shocked if ABS ends up with more than 25% of what this jury gave her after years of appeals. Dolan has no problem keeping this in appeals for a very long time.
I have little doubt abs attorneys are trying to settle this right now for much less money knowing that if they dont it will be locked in appeals for years with a major chance of reduction.
Thats what happened in a law suit I was involved in.

Ummm, ok. So what?

They're still guilty of sexual harassment and that's all that matters. Aside from ASB and her lawyers, who the hell cares about the dollar amount?

Let's say they drop it to 25% or about $3M. Does that really make it better?

You really need to get over it.

Guilty? Or liable? Huge difference.
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10/2/2007  5:24 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Stern will not do a thing to Isiah nor Dolan

Why are you acting like that's a big deal?

I think the court system has done enough regarding this matter, don't you?

I think this jury went way overboard and the court system will correct them via appeals. I would be shocked if ABS ends up with more than 25% of what this jury gave her after years of appeals. Dolan has no problem keeping this in appeals for a very long time.
I have little doubt abs attorneys are trying to settle this right now for much less money knowing that if they dont it will be locked in appeals for years with a major chance of reduction.
Thats what happened in a law suit I was involved in.

Ummm, ok. So what?

They're still guilty of sexual harassment and that's all that matters. Aside from ASB and her lawyers, who the hell cares about the dollar amount?

Let's say they drop it to 25% or about $3M. Does that really make it better?

You really need to get over it.


The jury's decision doesn't bother me at all, the trial uncoverings did. It only affects those who emotions are a little uneased. I thought she had a puncher's chance at $1-5mil. I don't understand why others appear to be hurt over the ruling.
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10/2/2007  5:28 PM
Some people dont like to see excessive judgements. My attorney told me about a case where a family only got $270,000 for a wrongful death suit. Thats life and death not getting called a nasty word and being hugged. I'm not sweating it. The high award probably will work against her. If it was 1-3 million Dolan probably would have paid up. Now she will have to wait and pray for years as Dolan ties it up in court appeals
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10/2/2007  5:37 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Some people dont like to see excessive judgements. My attorney told me about a case where a family only got $270,000 for a wrongful death suit. Thats life and death not getting called a nasty word and being hugged. I'm not sweating it. The high award probably will work against her. If it was 1-3 million Dolan probably would have paid up. Now she will have to wait and pray for years as Dolan ties it up in court appeals

You have no idea what dollar amount Dolan would have been willing to pay. Remember why pay anything right away/up front if you feel you are innocent over some bad words and misread hugs? And that example you're citing did it involve a case against a multi-billion dollar company? And that last line just produced another drop perspiration under your armpits.


It's over for now get back to discussing basketball.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 10-02-2007 4:40 PM]
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10/2/2007  5:46 PM
I have my opinion on what Dolan would have done. Its just as worthy than your opinion. Every post you disagree with you make a personal insult. That really shows huge insecurity.
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10/2/2007  6:07 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

I have my opinion on what Dolan would have done. Its just as worthy than your opinion. Every post you disagree with you make a personal insult. That really shows huge insecurity.


I really don't have an opinion other than they should have settled. I'm analyzing the reactions. Those who are disturbed by the dollar amount awarded in the verdict appear to be a tad more emotional. That isn't even an opinion, it's an observation. And I asked a question concerning it. Maybe you aren't. Just know, this isn't the first time the judicial system has failed itself and the people. Like the example(excellent point BTW)you gave, and it will continue. You could be going on-and-on about the example you gave, since it came at the expense of someone's life but you aren't.

Let's focus more on the fact our franchise not putting themselves in the position to be manipulated by an unjust system. Run a tighter ship and show true leadership. There are 30 teams in the NBA but only ours was involved in a sexual harassment suit this summer(although this is happening behind closed doors at every NBA/sport/coporate venue some say), obviously something is wrong at MSG and maybe it starts with the process of how and why they hired Anooka? I doubt it, but we could use that as a reference point.





[Edited by - TrueBlue on 10-02-2007 5:21 PM]
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10/2/2007  6:11 PM
OK everyone has their opinions. I'm just going to put this aside and concentrate on the players for now. Say what you will about Isiah, Marbury, etc but we also have a group of players that are good guys.
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10/2/2007  6:15 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

OK everyone has their opinions. I'm just going to put this aside and concentrate on the players for now. Say what you will about Isiah, Marbury, etc but we also have a group of players that are good guys.

So if you agree that we have a young core of good guys, why are we surrounding them with career losers with character issues?
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10/2/2007  6:26 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

OK everyone has their opinions. I'm just going to put this aside and concentrate on the players for now. Say what you will about Isiah, Marbury, etc but we also have a group of players that are good guys.

So if you agree that we have a young core of good guys, why are we surrounding them with career losers with character issues?

Career losers is a reflection of a teams record not a players. 1 guy doesnt make a team of 15 lose.

Bad charecters can be a matter of opinion. Marbury might have questionable charecter but he was here before our young guys. Zach is the only guy of questionable charecter on the team currently that was added after. Thats why he is a big risk. I dont know if it was a wise move or not. It was a gamble and I assume the thinking was he would change with new surroundings.
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10/2/2007  8:01 PM
FYI - The NBA announced it would not pursue any additional penalties

The appeals process will extend the soap opera for the press

then again, should the Knicks start winning all bets are off
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10/2/2007  8:14 PM
Now, the whole ballgame has changed. As has been previously reported, Stern probably has the option of disciplining Dolan, Isiah Thomas, or even the Knicks in general. All along, he's been waiting for the franchise to bottom out so it can be reborn. This just might be that moment, where some prudently applied pressure and string-pulling can start setting some things right within this organization. Sound like a conspiracy? If it's shrewd and in the league's best interest, I wouldn't put it past Stern.

For those of you who think this is over, well' it ain't over yet. This is exactly the shot in the arm that we needed. You'll see. Your getting a glimpse of just how bad the behind the scenes really are in Knickville. This is such a huge win for Knick fans, now the dope heads are going to be forced to put the mecca back into NY basketball. NYC is the place where basketball should thrive, always!!! What better place to do it? !!!
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Stern is Licking His Chops (from the pure speculation department)

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