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9/21/2007  9:49 AM
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9/21/2007  9:55 AM
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Knick bosses defense is laughable
Mike Lupica

This is Wednesday, Judge Gerard Lynch's courtroom, 23A, high up in the Daniel Patrick Moynihan Building, a spectacular view out the righthand windows of the river. Steve Mills, who describes his job as president of Madison Square Garden sports, sits there to Lynch's left and to the right of the jurors, and the more Mills talks the more you imagine a sign in back of him, in lights Times Square bright:

"I Need This Job!"

In that way Mills is the same as everybody from the Garden witness list who will sit in this same chair, all of James Dolan's men: They have the best jobs they will ever have in their lives, and will obviously do anything - or say anything - to hold onto them.

And if they have to sit there and portray Anucha Browne Sanders as a liar and money-grubber and all-around hysterical woman, they will do it, on demand.

Steve Mills will never again be president of a place like the Garden. Isiah Thomas will never in his life be given the run of a basketball operation the way Dolan has given him the run of the Knicks. The only one who isn't going anywhere, unless Dad removes him, is Dolan.

It is why the great lie of the Garden's defense, the great lie and the great joke whether this turns out to be another star-struck jury or not like they get in Los Angeles all the time, is that Ms. Browne Sanders' competency is the issue here, that somehow - after years of glowing reports signed by Mills himself - she suddenly turned incompetent once I. Lord Thomas became lord of the basketball part of the Garden.

As if job performance matters at James Dolan's Garden.

If it does, then Mills is gone and Thomas is gone and Glen Sather would have been gone long ago, and whoever has turned the television network over there into such a second-rate operation is gone, too.

The Garden wants this trial to be about job performance? With Dolan the big boss of the place? Are they kidding? All of these people, starting with Dolan, have combined to make the Garden's image as cheap and lousy as it has ever been in the whole history of the place. This at a time when they are more obsessive about image, about the Knicks "brand" that Mills kept talking about the other day, and the Rangers "brand," than ever before. If that is part of the mission statement of Dolan's men, protecting these "brands," then back up a truck for them now.

But suddenly Anucha Browne Sanders' competency for one year - 2005 - is supposed to be the issue that matters above all. Why? Because Mills kept giving her gold stars before that, that's why. Because he kept giving her raises before that and never suggested she was in trouble.

Browne Sanders wasn't fired for being incompetent. Dolan, who is about as good at giving depositions as he is anything else, all but admitted that the other day. He is supposed to have blown his top once because he thought Browne Sanders didn't understand capital expenditures. That's a good one. When they get around to swearing Dolan in, somebody should ask him to explain the salary cap in the National Basketball Association and watch him wrestle himself to the ground.

Browne Sanders was suing Thomas for sexual and verbal harassment and Dolan, the rich man's son, got mad and fired her and now here they all are, high up in the Moynihan building. Here come Dolan's men on the dead run, out of the men's club that the Garden really is, swearing to tell the whole truth according to Dolan and nothing but.

When Barry Watkins, Dolan's PR man, was on the stand the other day, Lynch said, "Your job is to put out the party line, right?" Watkins, who in that moment could have been any Dolan lieutenant, said: "Yes."

A moment later Judge Gerard Lynch said, "Your job here is to tell the truth, you know the difference in the two, right?" Watkins: "I think so."

Imagine Anucha Browne Sanders not thinking she was in the presence of true genius working with somebody like Thomas, who has the largest payroll in his sport and has had it for years and has not yet produced a single playoff victory.

"Stop talking right now!" Mills quotes James Dolan as saying to Browne Sanders in the famous meeting where he supposedly decided she wasn't as smart as all the other geniuses in the room.

In that moment Dolan sounds like what he is and always will be: a spoiled rich boy. He eventually decided he didn't want Browne Sanders around anymore and that was that, he didn't need to listen to lawyers. And Thomas? You think he was ever going to listen to some pushy woman who refused to see things his way?

Here is a quote from a story Christian Red and T.J. Quinn wrote in this newspaper last year, about Thomas' days running the Continental Basketball Association into the ground. It comes from a woman named Diane Bosshard, who owned the La Crosse Bobcats with her husband before selling the team to Thomas:

"He ruled with intimidation. It was just like, 'If I swear enough or if I act like I'm tough enough you're going to back down.'"

Anucha Browne Sanders didn't back down at the Garden, doesn't back down in 23A, where they want her job performance to be on trial. That shouldn't put jurors to sleep. It should have them rolling in the aisle.
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9/21/2007  9:56 AM
lupica makes some valid points, but he is tryint to make brown out to be a victim and a saint, this same lady falsified tax returns using MSG expenditures, that would get you fired from any company or mom and pop business. She never gave any answer for this.. I mean that is fraud and as bad as anything that has went on at MSG so far...
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9/21/2007  9:58 AM
Posted by tkf:

lupica makes some valid points, but he is tryint to make brown out to be a victim and a saint, this same lady falsified tax returns using MSG expenditures, that would get you fired from any company or mom and pop business. She never gave any answer for this.. I mean that is fraud and as bad as anything that has went on at MSG so far...

this article is about Dolan and his soldiers, not so much about Brown and the fact that she may be a and saint.
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9/21/2007  10:06 AM
you guys would just like to find these people guilty because you dislike them. You, like Lupica, would rather lynch then than have this trial. When she was talking up her claim all was well not she is being rebutted it cant be beleived. You people are pitifull.
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9/21/2007  10:08 AM
Posted by seaegg99:

you guys would just like to find these people guilty because you dislike them. You, like Lupica, would rather lynch then than have this trial. When she was talking up her claim all was well not she is being rebutted it cant be beleived. You people are pitifull.

Thanks for lumping everyone together. We are borg here.

Tell me, who here has found anyone guilty already? People sure are claiming that Dolan and his crew are pretty incompetent. Dispute that?
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9/21/2007  10:13 AM


And the 2007 UK Honorary Ross Perot "You People" Award goes to....
Posted by seaegg99:

you guys would just like to find these people guilty because you dislike them. You, like Lupica, would rather lynch then than have this trial. When she was talking up her claim all was well not she is being rebutted it cant be beleived. You people are pitifull.

[Edited by - basketballjones on 09-21-2007 10:15]
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9/21/2007  10:14 AM
Posted by tkf:

lupica makes some valid points, but he is tryint to make brown out to be a victim and a saint, this same lady falsified tax returns using MSG expenditures, that would get you fired from any company or mom and pop business. She never gave any answer for this.. I mean that is fraud and as bad as anything that has went on at MSG so far...

What is really ironic is no matter the outcome, MSG has lost really big. I repeat what I have said over and over that they should have settled. Not doing it defies logic at any level. They could have paid her 3mil and made her go away. For the life of me I can't understand what in the hell Dolan is thinking and why he won't listen to his lawyers.

The crap they they admitted to just in the course of doing business really has exposed themselves as much more incompetant than I could have ever imagined. Anucha might lose her case but every day of this trail MSG loses big. The media is feeding off of this and painting them is very bad light.

Remember you don't go to trail unless there are very good reasons to. A [retrail hearing determines if a person has a legit claim to prevent any employee of accusing their employer. IT weeds out frivilous suits.

Judge Lynch said weeks ago they should settle this! Anucha harrassment suite is not substancial but the core of this trail is unlawful termination. What her team has done is paint this management team as a bunch of idiots and in order to defend themselves they have not admitted to any crimes, just that they are inept as hell! They put MSG on trail.

Dolan looks like an idiot, Isiah looks like a snake and MIlls looks like a good looking guy in a nice suite in over his head. The lawyer bill to defend this has to be costing millions. This could have been done very quietly at the very beginning.

I am amazed seemingly every year just how inept this management team really is! The list is all too familiar and looking at the whole body of work it reads like a sitcom!

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9/21/2007  10:47 AM
Typical Lupica. Before you click a Lupica opinion you know it will be 100% negative with him taking cheap shots at somebody. His columns are all the same slant with just the names changed.
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9/21/2007  10:56 AM
Nicely written article and the point I get out the article, one of the main problems with this franchise as a whole is that certain individuals within the organization are held to a different standard.
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9/21/2007  10:56 AM
Posted by tkf:

lupica makes some valid points, but he is tryint to make brown out to be a victim and a saint, this same lady falsified tax returns using MSG expenditures, that would get you fired from any company or mom and pop business. She never gave any answer for this.. I mean that is fraud and as bad as anything that has went on at MSG so far...

it is fraud...but it's a relatable fraud to many people, including probably the jurors. how many people file their taxes with 100% honesty? how many people even know how to file their taxes and not just let someone do it for them with the instructions of "get me back as much money as you can"?
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9/21/2007  10:59 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by tkf:

lupica makes some valid points, but he is tryint to make brown out to be a victim and a saint, this same lady falsified tax returns using MSG expenditures, that would get you fired from any company or mom and pop business. She never gave any answer for this.. I mean that is fraud and as bad as anything that has went on at MSG so far...

this article is about Dolan and his soldiers, not so much about Brown and the fact that she may be a and saint.


Bingo!
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9/21/2007  11:01 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by tkf:

lupica makes some valid points, but he is tryint to make brown out to be a victim and a saint, this same lady falsified tax returns using MSG expenditures, that would get you fired from any company or mom and pop business. She never gave any answer for this.. I mean that is fraud and as bad as anything that has went on at MSG so far...

it is fraud...but it's a relatable fraud to many people, including probably the jurors. how many people file their taxes with 100% honesty? how many people even know how to file their taxes and not just let someone do it for them with the instructions of "get me back as much money as you can"?

Not many people include the company they work for in their tax fraud and keep their job. She reportedly claimed MSG expenses on her personal tax return for a business that did not even exist. Then she blamed it all on her accountant. That makes her seem less than honest in my opinion.
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Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by tkf:

lupica makes some valid points, but he is tryint to make brown out to be a victim and a saint, this same lady falsified tax returns using MSG expenditures, that would get you fired from any company or mom and pop business. She never gave any answer for this.. I mean that is fraud and as bad as anything that has went on at MSG so far...

it is fraud...but it's a relatable fraud to many people, including probably the jurors. how many people file their taxes with 100% honesty? how many people even know how to file their taxes and not just let someone do it for them with the instructions of "get me back as much money as you can"?

Not many people include the company they work for in their tax fraud and keep their job. She reportedly claimed MSG expenses on her personal tax return for a business that did not even exist. Then she blamed it all on her accountant. That makes her seem less than honest in my opinion.

i'm not disputing that...all i'm saying is that to a jury, it's a much more relatable offense.
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9/21/2007  11:12 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by tkf:

lupica makes some valid points, but he is tryint to make brown out to be a victim and a saint, this same lady falsified tax returns using MSG expenditures, that would get you fired from any company or mom and pop business. She never gave any answer for this.. I mean that is fraud and as bad as anything that has went on at MSG so far...

it is fraud...but it's a relatable fraud to many people, including probably the jurors. how many people file their taxes with 100% honesty? how many people even know how to file their taxes and not just let someone do it for them with the instructions of "get me back as much money as you can"?

Not many people include the company they work for in their tax fraud and keep their job. She reportedly claimed MSG expenses on her personal tax return for a business that did not even exist. Then she blamed it all on her accountant. That makes her seem less than honest in my opinion.

i'm not disputing that...all i'm saying is that to a jury, it's a much more relatable offense.

You can never tell what a jury will do, but I think if it was up to the judge she would lose of be given a token amount of money.

I do not see anything worth 10.6 million dollars here. She was not guaranteed a job for life. She did not have a contract paying her 10.6 million. She has another job. I could see an award of 100k-300k if based on the facts of the case and not hype.
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9/21/2007  12:05 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Typical Lupica. Before you click a Lupica opinion you know it will be 100% negative with him taking cheap shots at somebody. His columns are all the same slant with just the names changed.

Normally I'd agree with you but his time Lupica is hardly alone in his negativity. There hasn't been one positive thing said about Dolan's circus. Absolutely nothing good has come from taking this to court. Maybe they make Anucha look bad, maybe they even win but at what expense? It wouldn't mean that they were innocent, it would mean that Anucha's team couldn't meet the very high standard of proof required in these kinds of cases. Everybody associated with this case comes off looking bad, there's no escaping it.

I must admit, I've enjoyed every second of it and I want it to continue for as long as possible. I'm definitely showing up at the trial the day Isiah is cross examined.
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Posted by islesfan:


I must admit, I've enjoyed every second of it and I want it to continue for as long as possible. I'm definitely showing up at the trial the day Isiah is cross examined.

Hahah, hey maybe you can finally meet up with Marbury face to face, that is if he still remembers you from his short lived blog
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9/21/2007  12:31 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Typical Lupica. Before you click a Lupica opinion you know it will be 100% negative with him taking cheap shots at somebody. His columns are all the same slant with just the names changed.

Normally I'd agree with you but his time Lupica is hardly alone in his negativity. There hasn't been one positive thing said about Dolan's circus. Absolutely nothing good has come from taking this to court. Maybe they make Anucha look bad, maybe they even win but at what expense? It wouldn't mean that they were innocent, it would mean that Anucha's team couldn't meet the very high standard of proof required in these kinds of cases. Everybody associated with this case comes off looking bad, there's no escaping it.

I must admit, I've enjoyed every second of it and I want it to continue for as long as possible. I'm definitely showing up at the trial the day Isiah is cross examined.

tape some pics! cause a disturbance when you have had enough by shouting obsenities at Dolan! Get tossed by the judge!
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9/21/2007  12:49 PM

That's be worth a day off...anyone know when the Isiah cross-examination is?
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Im with Lupica on this one..........

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