I wonder what kind of yr he will have?


http://blog.oregonlive.com/johncanzano/2007/08/im_a_commie_and_greg_oden_is_a.html

On a side note, get this.... I'm told by insiders that Channing Frye has been nothing short of amazing in workouts this summer, and that Aldridge's hold on the power forward position isn't a lock just yet.

No games have been played, but Frye's apparently decided he's coming to Portland to chew gum and kick butt.... and he's all outta gum. Whatever happens, seems like there will be plenty of minutes to go around with Frye, Oden, Aldridge and Joel Przybilla in what amounts to a front court that will have to carry this team.

Just our luck, he'll become a beast on the boards and develop a killer inside game

I wouldn't be surprise at all if he has a nice season. He has the talent to be a 20/10 guy IMO. I think the keys to the team were prematurely given to Lee.

Thread starter = utterly predicable, but I will add my two cents...The Channing Frye story leads credence to the idea that rebuilding in NY is an impossibility because of the lack of patience among fans, media, and management.

Channing Frye had monster first half in his rookie season, and an overall strong one. He comes back and has a subpar sophomore campaign and he is rediculed, villified, and eventually jettisoned to the delight of fans. We luv to watch our youngsters develop [sarcasm].

This is still big man with a boat load of potential. It was funny that when it came to analyzing the Randolph trade, Frye's remaining potential was rarely included in the convo. It was like its a foregone conclusion that he is a bust.

Could still very well turn out to be one, but NY sure as hell aint gonna stick around and wait to find out.

Posted by BigC:

This is nothing new from what Frye did last summer. Last year it was reported that he was the best in summer camp. This is completely different from Frye playing against real competition.

True.

So does that mean what Nate did in Summer League along with Nichols and Chandler is thrown out the window? I'd say so.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 08-13-2007 3:17 PM]

Posted by sebstar:

Thread starter = utterly predicable, but I will add my two cents...The Channing Frye story leads credence to the idea that rebuilding in NY is an impossibility because of the lack of patience among fans, media, and management.

Channing Frye had monster first half in his rookie season, and an overall strong one. He comes back and has a subpar sophomore campaign and he is rediculed, villified, and eventually jettisoned to the delight of fans. We luv to watch our youngsters develop [sarcasm].

This is still big man with a boat load of potential. It was funny that when it came to analyzing the Randolph trade, Frye's remaining potential was rarely included in the convo. It was like its a foregone conclusion that he is a bust.

Could still very well turn out to be one, but NY sure as hell aint gonna stick around and wait to find out.

Great post.

Posted by TrueBlue:
So does that mean what Nate did in Summer League along with Nichols and Chandler is thrown out the window? I'd say so.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 08-13-2007 3:17 PM]

I suspect, Blue, that you would certainly like to think so.

That is, until one of them is traded to another team, then their success somewhere else becomes something else to hold against Isiah, another feather in your "hater" camp.

Yes, we sure do love to see our youngsters develop...somewhere else.


[Edited by - rembee76 on 08-13-2007 4:25 PM]

I was never a big channing fan and thought we should have went bynum or granger.

But Frye is a guy that needs shots and he is someone thats not going to be effective if he doesn't get them. If you centered the offense around channing the same way you centered it around eddy i think their numbers would be very similiar.

Frye was but in a position to fail, thanks to isiah. He was used as a decoy didn't get the touches he needed in the post and was often floating outside and had to take a bad shot to get a shot. We didn't run pick and pops or rolls and as a result his game suffered.

He doesn't have the toughness to make it where he is constanly under the microscope, thats why portland is a good place for him behind oden and roye.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by BigC:

This is nothing new from what Frye did last summer. Last year it was reported that he was the best in summer camp. This is completely different from Frye playing against real competition.

True.

So does that mean what Nate did in Summer League along with Nichols and Chandler is thrown out the window? I'd say so.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 08-13-2007 3:17 PM]

I would say that is the case for Chandler and Nichols until they hit a NBA court. As far as Nate I would not say that is the same because he is not going to back down from anyone and has played on a high level before. Frye on the other hand is scared of his own reflection. To be honest Frye has played like trash ever since his injury. Also his first year teams were not focused on him. Frye second year came with a scouting reports.

Posted by BigC:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by BigC:

This is nothing new from what Frye did last summer. Last year it was reported that he was the best in summer camp. This is completely different from Frye playing against real competition.

True.

So does that mean what Nate did in Summer League along with Nichols and Chandler is thrown out the window? I'd say so.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 08-13-2007 3:17 PM]

I would say that is the case for Chandler and Nichols until they hit a NBA court. As far as Nate I would not say that is the same because he is not going to back down from anyone and has played on a high level before. Frye on the other hand is scared of his own reflection. To be honest Frye has played like trash ever since his injury. Also his first year teams were not focused on him. Frye second year came with a scouting reports.

I agree that scouting reports began to focus on him but even when they start to double off him, he could no longer hit the open jumper.

Posted by sebstar:

Thread starter = utterly predicable, but I will add my two cents...The Channing Frye story leads credence to the idea that rebuilding in NY is an impossibility because of the lack of patience among fans, media, and management.

Channing Frye had monster first half in his rookie season, and an overall strong one. He comes back and has a subpar sophomore campaign and he is rediculed, villified, and eventually jettisoned to the delight of fans. We luv to watch our youngsters develop [sarcasm].

This is still big man with a boat load of potential. It was funny that when it came to analyzing the Randolph trade, Frye's remaining potential was rarely included in the convo. It was like its a foregone conclusion that he is a bust.

Could still very well turn out to be one, but NY sure as hell aint gonna stick around and wait to find out.

I wouldnt jump out of my pants because he had some good publicity from his hometown [small]newspaper. He had a good first half to his rookie season until teams started to play up on him--sans the knee injury he was BRUTAL other than his first 30-35 games. He was worse than a sophmore slump. If what you say is true--why do fans love Balkman and Lee. They have a tough spirit to them--Channing is soft and that my friend is NY. If you are soft--you are not going to make it.